AJ_Daubz Posted September 24, 2021 Posted September 24, 2021 Hello! I've just bought the MiG21 and have been having an absolute blast in it! Easily one of the coolest modules I've flown in DCS! I'm just wondering if an update for the cockpit is still in the works? I've found little bits of info here and there but wasn't sure if it was still being worked on. As much as I love the module, I feel the cockpit visuals are starting to show their age a little bit, and some of the textures are looking a bit ropey compared with some of the newer modules. I'd really appreciate if anyone has any info on it, thanks! 7
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted October 1, 2021 Posted October 1, 2021 It's not just about the age of the textures - which to me look just fine - but about the cockpit geometry, especially in VR (since the MiG-21 was released back in DCS 1.2 I believe, before there even was VR support). It should be coming after the release of the F4U according to what I've read... 1 Spoiler Ryzen 9 5900X | 64GB G.Skill TridentZ 3600 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X570-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 960Pro 1TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero Pro Flight Trainer Puma | VIRPIL MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | Virpil CM3 throttle | Virpil CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | TPR rudder pedals OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings
Northstar98 Posted October 2, 2021 Posted October 2, 2021 I wonder if the switch logic would be updated to? Practically every other module apart from the MiG-21bis uses the RMB to move switches forwards, upwards, clockwise and to increment and the LMB to move switches backwards, downwards, counter-clockwise and to decrement. See this post. 5 1 Modules I own: F-14A/B, F-4E, Mi-24P, AJS 37, AV-8B N/A, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070S FE, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro.
Nipil Posted October 23, 2021 Posted October 23, 2021 It's a really important question for me. Right now I am using it in free trial, and while external model is good and the plane itself is quite interesting and is simply iconic, the cockpit spoils the overall impression significantly. Especially the lower part of it. And the switch logic, as mentioned above, is really counterintuitive after playing all other modules.
El Chapo Posted October 24, 2021 Posted October 24, 2021 Nice to know. I was about to purchase it but cockpit interaction is a must for me in VR. I'm going to five it a try for 2 weeks and I'll see, but coming from the F18 or M2000 I hope it won't be a disappointment...
iyhan_spb Posted October 24, 2021 Posted October 24, 2021 11 hours ago, Габихан said: I hope it won't be a disappointment... Oh, it will be, you may be sure.... I tried it VR... It is awful... i7 13700K, DDR5 64Gb 6400, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 5090 GAMING OC, Quest 3 VR
Hiromachi Posted October 24, 2021 Posted October 24, 2021 Its dated. Thats for sure. But we have plans to update it completely. This would be complete overhaul to bring it to the current DCS standard and beyond. The problem is that we are a small team and multiple projects - released and upcoming, so we have to navigate those waters safely. I cant give you any specific date but I think window of opportunity will appear once F4U artwork is done and module released. 22 2 AMD Ryzen 5900X @ 4.95 Ghz / Asus Crosshair VII X470 / 32 GB DDR4 3600 Mhz Cl16 / Radeon 6800XT / Samsung 960 EVO M.2 SSD / Creative SoundBlaster AE-9 / HP Reverb G2 / VIRPIL T-50CM / Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Rudder Pedals / Audio Technica ATH-MSR7
HiWeee Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 Thanks Hiromachi，and hope F4U coming soon ：） Inte 12700KF/ 32GB@3600MHz/ RTX2080/ 2T NVMe /Hp Reverb G1
iyhan_spb Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 10 hours ago, Hiromachi said: Its dated. Thats for sure. But we have plans to update it completely. This would be complete overhaul to bring it to the current DCS standard and beyond. The problem is that we are a small team and multiple projects - released and upcoming, so we have to navigate those waters safely. I cant give you any specific date but I think window of opportunity will appear once F4U artwork is done and module released. thanks for info. MiG-21 is a great plane to fly, but the VR experience is horrible.... Waiting for an update so much that i'm even ready to pay for it 3 i7 13700K, DDR5 64Gb 6400, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 5090 GAMING OC, Quest 3 VR
Flia Posted November 3, 2021 Posted November 3, 2021 Well, that's good. The Mig-21 definitely deserves an improved alepson cockpit. And maybe something more. PC: i7 9700K, 32 GB RAM, RTX 2080 SUPER, Tir 5, Hotas Warthog Throttle, VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Base with VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Grip, VKB-SIM T-RUDDER PEDALS MK.IV. Modules : NEVADA, F-5E, M-2000C, BF-109K4, A-10C, FC3, P-51D, MIG-21BIS, MI-8MTV2, F-86F, FW-190D9, UH-1H, L-39, MIG-15BIS, AJS37, SPITFIRE-MKIX, AV8BNA, PERSIAN GULF, F/A-18C HORNET, YAK-52, KA-50, F-14,SA342, C-101, F-16, JF-17, Supercarrier,I-16,MIG-19P, P-47D,A-10C_II
Mike_CK Posted November 19, 2021 Posted November 19, 2021 Ok…I’ll bite. I fly the Mig 21 in VR all the time….what’s the problem? I don’t notice any visual issues and I’ve never had a problem flipping switches. To me, it’s similar to the F-14 due to no MFDs 3
zmz125000 Posted November 19, 2021 Posted November 19, 2021 https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3312710/ try this, it looks much better than default 1
Germane Posted November 21, 2021 Posted November 21, 2021 Am 19.11.2021 um 06:26 schrieb Mike_CK: Ok…I’ll bite. I fly the Mig 21 in VR all the time….what’s the problem? I don’t notice any visual issues and I’ve never had a problem flipping switches. To me, it’s similar to the F-14 due to no MFDs The problem is that the cockpit locks very bad and outdated compared to the newer modules.
iyhan_spb Posted November 21, 2021 Posted November 21, 2021 28 minutes ago, Germane said: The problem is that the cockpit locks very bad and outdated compared to the newer modules. It's also broken... I don't know how to explain... Geometry? Scale? Both? It looks like it is actually 2D 2 i7 13700K, DDR5 64Gb 6400, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 5090 GAMING OC, Quest 3 VR
Germane Posted November 22, 2021 Posted November 22, 2021 (edited) vor 20 Stunden schrieb iyhan_spb: It's also broken... I don't know how to explain... Geometry? Scale? Both? It looks like it is actually 2D Yes, thats also a big problem for me! It feels wrong Edited November 22, 2021 by Germane
Capt_Haddock Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 My issue is performance. The framerate takes a massive hit compared to the MiG-19 or the Viggen. I'd love to see the actual 3D mesh to see what the polycount looks like... Also, the floor around the base of the stick needs some love. I only has a pretty rubbish 2D photo slapped on it.
Wikikomoto Posted December 20, 2021 Posted December 20, 2021 Hello! I actually contacted Leatherneck Simulations personally on facebook. And they absolutely confirmed this was still in the works. Whoever was running the page also gave plenty of detail on what's planned, but since it was a 1 on 1 conversation I'm not really comfortable divulging information. I actually contacted them regarding an issue with the sim, and all this information came out randomly while conversing. Whoever runs the page was incredibly friendly, and seemed very open to talking about it though. I'd say, ask them yourselves if your curious ! 5 2
iyhan_spb Posted December 20, 2021 Posted December 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Wikikomoto said: I'm not really comfortable divulging information May be you can ask them a permission to share this info? i7 13700K, DDR5 64Gb 6400, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 5090 GAMING OC, Quest 3 VR
Boosterdog Posted December 20, 2021 Posted December 20, 2021 5 hours ago, Wikikomoto said: I'm not really comfortable divulging information. I doubt they told you anything they wouldnt tell anyone else so................. MSI Tomahawk X570 Mobo, Ryzen 5600X undervolted on Artic Freezer E34 Cooler, RTX3080 FE, 32GB (2x16GB Dual Ranked) GSkil 3600 CL16 Trident Neo RAM, 2X 4th Gen M2 SSDs, Corsair RM850x PSU, Lancool 215 Case. Gear: MFG Crosswinds, Warthog Throttle, Virpil T50CM gen 1 stick, TIR5, Cougar MFD (OOA), D-link H7/B powered USB 2.0 Hub all strapped to a butchered Wheel stand pro, Cushion to bang head on, wall to scream at.
Wikikomoto Posted December 20, 2021 Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) Well he didn't say not to share... So okay! (Sorry if I'm getting anyone in trouble! Ahhh!! I'm just incredibly excited to see continued work on my favorite aircraft!!!) I edited this a bit, sorry. photo wasn't displaying and I decided not to post a few details. Here are specifics about the cockpit model though we intend to rework the cockpit at some point and mentioned by you switches will be a part of that. Leatherneck Simulations However circuit breakers, in a final version, will likely be covered by a transparent cover as in most MiG-21bis aiframes. Leatherneck Simulations You can see a bit of it on the attached picture. Leatherneck Simulations As such circuit breakers were not accesible by the pilot and they were not the be used in-flight. So even if animated, users will likely not be able to operate them. 16 minutes ago, Boosterdog said: I doubt they told you anything they wouldnt tell anyone else so................. Sorry about the formatting, I don't use these types of forums much! Edited December 20, 2021 by Wikikomoto 1
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