need track replay f16 Broke wings

[slash11985]

It has happen only 2 times till the last update and the last event was just yesterday .

Was on MP server (104th) and just after a second of an  high turn at hight speed my wings rips off.

LOUDAOUT : 4 120 c-  2 HARM -3 TANK 1 POD (HAS )

The problems also happen before yesterday but with bvr loadout with 3 tank .

Got a tacview maybe in the afteroon will post here . 

 

Edited November 26, 2021 by slash11985

[razo+r]

You're overloading the airframe.

 

Don't do that and the wings won't break.

[slash11985]

Fcs should prevent this not me. By the way this issue happen after the last update. Never broke a wing in the viper before also with no cat 3 selected and with ag full loaded. 

Edited November 26, 2021 by slash11985

[BIGNEWY]

Please include a short track replay example. 

It sounds like heavy load and high G being pulled, would like to see how many G's and your weight. 

thanks

[razo+r]

49 minutes ago, slash11985 said:

Fcs should prevent this not me. By the way this issue happen after the last update. Never broke a wing in the viper before also with no cat 3 selected and with ag full loaded. 

 

They added over G damage recently.

[TAW_Blaze]

FCS won't prevent you from anything if you're flying with 2+ bags in CAT I. Actually it's quite forgiving even now since you won't get hung stores etc. You can easily pull 9 G even with a full loadout and be just fine.

If you start rolling while pulling 9 G you will pretty much guaranteed break your wings, or if you continue looping at the bottom with 9 G you will spike far above and also break them.

[QuiGon]

1 hour ago, slash11985 said:

Fcs should prevent this not me. By the way this issue happen after the last update. Never broke a wing in the viper before also with no cat 3 selected and with ag full loaded. 

 

If you have a AG loadout you should use CAT3, which should prevent this from happening. If you're flying around with a heavy loadout in CAT1, then it's no suprise that the wings break.

[slash11985]

I said before update used to fly sometimes with cat 1 and ag load.. by the way I will expect to have a damage for sure, a lost of a tank, slat flaps etc damege but not a problem like this. By the way I ll upload the tac right now 

[slash11985]

 

[Kilo]

The FLCS won't protect against G, only against AOA

[darkman222]

You were pulling 8,6 Gs with that loadout when the aircraft broke apart. Thats way too much. Airframe overstress has just been added recently. And maybe there is some kind of fatigue added to it too. So you might have been over G-ing the aircraft several times before, but nothing happened up to this final pull when it was finally too much.

Edited November 26, 2021 by darkman222

[slash11985]

53 minutes ago, darkman222 said:

You were pulling 8,6 Gs with that loadout when the aircraft broke apart. Thats way too much. Airframe overstress has just been added recently. And maybe there is some kind of fatigue added to it too. So you might have been over G-ing the aircraft several times before, but nothing happened up to this final pull when it was finally too much.

 

No over g before just take off and route 

[darkman222]

Fatigue was just an additional idea I had. I dont want to lie, so better look the numbers up somewhere. I think some air to ground configuration are 6,5 Gs maximum.

Edited November 26, 2021 by darkman222

[slash11985]

Just for knowledge because it isn't written nowhere.. 6x120 3xtank is consider a cat 3 for the fuel on the wings ? 

Furthermore, can we know what's the highest g can we afford in cat 1 at this point? When comes out a new update is always a Russian roulette

The video I posted here is with a 4 x 120 and 2 harms and 3 tank of fuel,but the same happen with 6x120 and 3 tank some days before. 

[Sinclair_76]

These are the limits mover came with some time ago.

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/268029-f-16-over-g-damage-as-of-27/?do=findComment&comment=4627617

[slash11985]

7 minutes ago, Sinclair_76 said:

These are the limits mover came with some time ago.

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/268029-f-16-over-g-damage-as-of-27/?do=findComment&comment=4627617

Interesting things thank you 

[TobiasA]

vor 7 Stunden schrieb slash11985:

Fcs should prevent this not me. By the way this issue happen after the last update. Never broke a wing in the viper before also with no cat 3 selected and with ag full loaded. 

 

The FLCS in the F-16 does NOT prevent over-G, it limits AOA to prevent departure.

CAT III is anything outside of a pure A-A loadout, so as soon as you carry A/G ammunition or a tank it is a CAT III.

Edited November 26, 2021 by TobiasA

[slash11985]

59 minutes ago, TobiasA said:

The FLCS in the F-16 does NOT prevent over-G, it limits AOA to prevent departure.

CAT III is anything outside of a pure A-A loadout, so as soon as you carry A/G ammunition or a tank it is a CAT III.

 

Roger tanks 

[TobiasA]

vor 20 Stunden schrieb slash11985:

Roger tanks 

The bad thing is that you can't feel G forces in a simulation so it is harder to keep the limits... 

[slash11985]

31 minutes ago, TobiasA said:

The bad thing is that you can't feel G forces in a simulation so it is harder to keep the limits... 

The good thing is we are in a simulator and will not die

[TobiasA]

vor 25 Minuten schrieb slash11985:

The good thing is we are in a simulator and will not die

That's true!