How to Takeoff?

[MAXsenna]

11 hours ago, pii said:

Well it seems DCS has done it again and made me spend money on new stuff. So I now have, or will soon, a Virpil Warbird base incoming! Actually I just happened to see and ad that Virpil had a new USA Store/Warehouse, while looking for o-rings and springs, that is only about 50 miles from me and I took that as a sign  from above.   Thats what I'm going to tell the wifey anyways.....

So it looks like the warthog base will be retiring soon no O-rings or springs needed. The warbird base sounds just like what I needed, just a little more costly  Oh well! lol

Take care.

 

Good on you!  

Remember that it seems a new Virpil base is inbound.

[pii]

3 hours ago, MAXsenna said:

Good on you!  

Remember that it seems a new Virpil base is inbound.

Well, If I have too I'll drive the 50 miles and sit on their doorstep until I get one!

[pii]

On 8/16/2022 at 11:07 AM, MAXsenna said:

Good on you!  

Remember that it seems a new Virpil base is inbound.

They shipped today. Wahoo!

[pii]

On 8/22/2022 at 3:54 PM, pii said:

They shipped today. Wahoo!

Well, got new Virpil, now  I get to spend 6 months rebinding all my controls  @#$%#$#$%#E$%#Q%Q#$T!!!

 

[Gamja Field]

On 3/19/2022 at 7:07 AM, agamemnon_b5 said:

I'm flabergasted by that.  Even the UH-60 has an AFCS.  Odd that the most modern attack helicopter in the world can't do something like nulling yaw inputs for a relatively simple hover that a very old aircraft like the Hind can.

Old post, but according to the real AH-64 pilot in our group says that real one has AFCS along with hold modes. AFCS is disabled when you press trim release, otherwise enabled.

Not sure if this is implemented in DCS (probably not?.. considering the flight input is overly sensitive ATM)

[Hiob]

30 minutes ago, Gamja Field said:

Old post, but according to the real AH-64 pilot in our group says that real one has AFCS along with hold modes. AFCS is disabled when you press trim release, otherwise enabled.

Not sure if this is implemented in DCS (probably not?.. considering the flight input is overly sensitive ATM)

It is implemented and it deactivates (or better releases and resets) when the trim release is pressed. You can easily see what it is doing when you enable the controls overlay.

However, that statement doesn't include an assessment on the quality of the implementation or if the resulting behaviour is accurate. I can't judge that for obvious reasons.

[SrSosio]

I'm sometimes having big trouble taaking off. As much as I slowly increase the collective, it wants to roll hard to the right and make me crash the blades against the ground even before lifting. And I mean roll, not yaw due to torque. What am I doing wrong? 

[NeedzWD40]

22 minutes ago, Assamita said:

What am I doing wrong? 

Configuration? Weight? Environment?

If lifting from level ground with a symmetrical payload, then set default cyclic trim to slightly left and slightly aft. If your configuration is on the heavy side, you may also consider setting yaw trim slightly left as well.

[NeedzWD40]

Here's a couple of clips from the latest open beta, from the Runway Start Caucasus instant action mission. I reset the configuration to be 71% fuel, 8xAGM-114, and 38xM151. The aircraft is FCR equipped as well.

 

 

 

 

[SrSosio]

I was loaded with 50% fuel and 12 hellfires. I believe it was about 4000 feet ASL. For some reason, if I try to increase the collective slowly, it just rolls to the right. I'll try recording a clip later and post it here.

[admiki]

2 hours ago, Assamita said:

I was loaded with 50% fuel and 12 hellfires. I believe it was about 4000 feet ASL. For some reason, if I try to increase the collective slowly, it just rolls to the right. I'll try recording a clip later and post it here.

You need to consider how tail rotor will affect you. It not only tries to push your tail to the right, it also tries to roll whole helicopter to the right because it is located above CG of the helicopter. Pushing right is important due to tires not being able to slip sideways over ground. At some point you will get light enough for that sidepush/roll to actually start moving you over ground. Slower you are with your collective, more time you will spend at that point.

Until you get hang of it, I would suggest to stop trying get light on wheels and compensate to get clean, stable lift off. Keep pulling that collective until you are in the air. Yes, your lift off will be wobbly, but it beats beating your rotor blades into the ground.

[corbu1]

There‘s a new Video released by Bradmick showing how to take off.

 

[SrSosio]

Thanks, that was helpful 

[GremlinIV]

So, pretty much the same as the Huey, but we have been told its not like a Huey, are we now saying it is like a Huey, Im gonna lift like its a Huey.....

[bradmick]

You understand that ALL helicopters of a conventional US design with a counter clockwise main rotor react this way, right? So the same inputs would more or less be required. Control rigging, center of gravity, if there’s any kind of transmission tilt to the left, size and authority of the tail rotor, etc will all cause variations. Also, skids vs wheels makes for a huge difference in ground handling as well, especially if those landing gear struts are collapsible (which the Apaches are) So I’m not really sure what your intention is with that statement.

 

And at the same time, the statement is correct, it's not like a huey, because the huey has fixed skids and no SAS or hold modes. The apache has wheels with struts and the SAS, these all interact in different and interesting ways with the aircraft as well while bringing the aircraft up to a hover. It's also a lot heavier aircraft as well.

Edited April 21, 2023 by bradmick