So, VR...

[Hiob]

15 minutes ago, CybrSlydr said:

I'm going to order TrackIR instead.

TrackIR (or similar) is a rock solid option to play DCS. There's the obvious lack of depth perception, but a big improvement to performance and visual clarity.

I have both, but usually opt for TrackIR instead of VR. Especially when I want to do serious stuff, like flying in multiplayer, doing a mission and so on. I only use VR for "sight seeing flights" most of the time.

Take your time to adjust your curves for TrackIR though! The pleasure and ease of use scales a lot with proper curves.

Sidenote: Unless you have to deal with bright external light sources (especially sunlight), the basic track clip is absolutely sufficient. You don't need the active (cabled) IR emitter. (Pro-Clip)

Edited March 30, 2022 by Hiob

[Steel Jaw]

5 minutes ago, Hiob said:

TrackIR (or similar) is a rock solid option to play DCS. There's the obvious lack of depth perception, but a big improvement to performance and visual clarity.

Agree:  VR is nice but has too many compromises.

[Baldrick33]

 

12 minutes ago, CybrSlydr said:

14 minutes ago, Baldrick33 said:

Have you used TrackIR or similar before to compare?

I have not, no.  Never used it before.

But one of the things I enjoyed about the headset the most was the head tracking.  Freeing up the trim hat switch on my Cougar is also pretty nice.

Then my crazy thread here may help

You can get to compare the experiences, even if you have a VR headset perched on your head you should get the idea.

[dburne]

23 minutes ago, CybrSlydr said:

I have not, no.  Never used it before.

But one of the things I enjoyed about the headset the most was the head tracking.  Freeing up the trim hat switch on my Cougar is also pretty nice.

 

Track IR should do the same for you freeing up those buttons.

But the two devices can not really be compared, one is a head mounted display whilst the other is just a tracker. Two very different things.

[Gruman]

I would use an active trackclip for TrackIR. The reflector clip might work, but unless you are NOT using headphones, its not worth the hassle. A cheap Trackclip clone for 30-40$ (wired or wireless) does the trick perfectly. Just a heads up: TrackIR is not 1:1 head movement as VR. You will need to get used to this as well.

I fly most of the time with my montior and TrackIR. Sometimes I do some VR in the G2, but I have the same issues. Clarity in the center, blurry mess everywhere else. To many compromises.

Edited March 30, 2022 by Gruman

[CybrSlydr]

I think I'd prefer non-1:1 tracking. Turning all the way around is a bitnof a hassle, even just looking down at your sides.

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[Gruman]

Well, as soon as you try trackIR you will miss the 1:1 tracking of the VR Headset. Just so natural.

But obviously you won't have a choice with TrackIR, simply because you still need to look at your monitor :).

[CybrSlydr]

Took the G2 back for a return today. 

VR is pretty freaking awesome, I just don't have a system really capable of it at a price-point I can afford.

Once this return is done processing (yay, 15% restocking fee...), I'll look into getting a TrackIR 5.  Bastard is expensive and not easy to find.

EDIT:  <profanity> - just saw I forgot to pack that "World's Worst Excuse for Cable Management" clip thing that goes on the back of the headband. 

Edited April 4, 2022 by CybrSlydr

[edmuss]

Trackir is replaced very cheaply by a 3D printed clip and a ps3 eyetoy camera running opentrack

[PLUTON]

I am selling a track ir 5 with a pro clip + a reflector (all) for 100 euro.
But here I do not think that this forum is a site of sale!!

[dburne]

41 minutes ago, PLUTON said:

I am selling a track ir 5 with a pro clip + a reflector (all) for 100 euro.
But here I do not think that this forum is a site of sale!!

There is a "For Sale" section in the Hardware forum.

[Rick50]

1 hour ago, PLUTON said:

I am selling a track ir 5 with a pro clip + a reflector (all) for 100 euro.
But here I do not think that this forum is a site of sale!!

 

Try here:

https://forum.dcs.world/forum/197-for-sale/

[PLUTON]

Thanks for the info, I didn't know about this section.
I'll go

[ignition22]

Weird I have a G2 and 6800xt and they run great together. I used to have a Track IR but was a bit meh to me and never got into DCS properly until I got my first VR headset. 

 

[CybrSlydr]

I think I'm going to get that DelanClip with camera package when I get paid.

Certainly not as easy to play the Apache with a hat switch instead of head tracking.

Also a lot cheaper than TrackIR.

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Weird I have a G2 and 6800xt and they run great together. I used to have a Track IR but was a bit meh to me and never got into DCS properly until I got my first VR headset. 

 

What CPU do you have? I just have an 8700k.

I also play Liberation exclusively, no MP either.

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[Steel Jaw]

On 4/5/2022 at 4:03 PM, PLUTON said:

I am selling a track ir 5 with a pro clip + a reflector (all) for 100 euro.
But here I do not think that this forum is a site of sale!!

That aint no deal.

[CybrSlydr]

After doing some reading, I'm wondering if I'd have a better experience with a Pimax 5k Super?  

It's lower resolution, but much higher FOV and I might be able to push the refresh rate higher than with the G2 as well.  1440 each eye vs 2160.

[Baldrick33]

4 hours ago, CybrSlydr said:

After doing some reading, I'm wondering if I'd have a better experience with a Pimax 5k Super?  

It's lower resolution, but much higher FOV and I might be able to push the refresh rate higher than with the G2 as well.  1440 each eye vs 2160.

From my experience with a 5K+ the Reverb G1 was a significant upgrade image wise. Didn't miss the FOV with such an improvement. The extra FOV means 2560 per eye wide, still less overall than the G2. Personally I would rather run a G2 at a lower res than have the Pimax 5K+. I can't speak for the Super but spec wise it looks similar.

Edited April 15, 2022 by Baldrick33

[CybrSlydr]

From my experience with a 5K+ the Reverb G1 was a significant upgrade image wise. Didn't miss the FOV with such an improvement. The extra FOV means 2560 per eye wide, still less overall than the G2. Personally I would rather run a G2 at a lower res than have the Pimax 5K+. I can't speak for the Super but spec wise it looks similar.

Really appreciate your input, thank you!

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[CybrSlydr]

Just placed order for a DelanClip kit, man that shipping is expensive. 24 pounds!

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[DerekSpeare]

Welcome to the party!