The comprehensive list of all unmarked and missing aerodromes - Updated 11 March 2023

[Minsky]

Made this for another project, thought others might find it useful.

What we currently have:
- 26 named aerodromes and FOBs across the map;
- 26 unmarked grass/dirt airstrips on Falklands;

What's missing (compared to the real world -- NOT to Razbam's promises):
- About eight unmarked airstrips and one helipad on Falklands;
- About two "proper" paved aerodromes on mainland;
- Dozens of unmarked airstrips and helipads on mainland (many of them are literally patches of dirt in the middle of nowhere).

Download mission file:

sa100323.miz

EDIT: Post updated for DCS 2.8.3.37556 Open Beta - 10.03.2023

 

Edited March 11, 2023 by Minsky

[Rudel_chw]

Really useful, thanks a lot 

 

[TAIPAN_]

Nice, do you have anything like this for the other maps? 

[YoYo]

Ohhh wow, nice work, thx. I hope only - if Razbam terrain team will take somethng from the list they will work on performance and optimalization before (minimum 50% better) because this list will kill this map on low level flight at current stage .

Edited June 12, 2022 by YoYo

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

Great work! Thanks. I am cross referencing MSFS 2K to see what I can find.

Edited June 12, 2022 by VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants

[Northstar98]

A decent chunk of the grass strips on the islands themselves are there, with 3D objects, they're just unmarked on the map. The grass on said grass strips could do with some work though.

[Exorcet]

20 hours ago, Minsky said:

P.S. This topic is not to criticize, but to give others a better understanding of scope and current state of the map.

 

 

What are Razbam's plans for airfields though? We don't necessarily get everything on a given map. The Hormuz map is missing some major airfields, which I guess is fine if that was the intention all along, but it means that we can't necessarily tie progress to the percentage of airfields modeled.

18 hours ago, TAIPAN_ said:

Nice, do you have anything like this for the other maps? 

Use map mode in the mission editor. It will reveals potentially many dozens of missing airfields depending on the map.

 

Alternatively I like to use X Plane's airport map:

https://x-plane.cleverest.eu/

[Northstar98]

11 hours ago, Exorcet said:

What are Razbam's plans for airfields though? We don't necessarily get everything on a given map.

I'm fairly sure they've said that at least the paved airports will get done. They've already done a load of grass strips on the islands themselves (they just aren't marked on the map).

11 hours ago, Exorcet said:

The Hormuz map is missing some major airfields, which I guess is fine if that was the intention all along, but it means that we can't necessarily tie progress to the percentage of airfields modeled.

True, the Caucasus is also missing Marnueli AB, Poti and Queen Tamar/Mestia. The former is the primary airbase for the Georgian Air Force.

11 hours ago, Exorcet said:

Use map mode in the mission editor. It will reveals potentially many dozens of missing airfields depending on the map.

I don't think it does for the grass strips on the islands though, you have to look for them manually. I'll do a post showcasing which are present and which aren't.

The best source I've personally come across is this (credit for finding it though goes to @SlipHavoc).

[Exorcet]

2 hours ago, Northstar98 said:

I don't think it does for the grass strips on the islands though, you have to look for them manually. I'll do a post showcasing which are present and which aren't.

The best source I've personally come across is this (credit for finding it though goes to @SlipHavoc).

That's a nice little resource, thanks for posting.

[Northstar98]

To add to the OP, here are the list of aerodromes on islands themselves.

Apart from Port Stanley, RAF Mount Leastant and San Carlos FOB, they're all grass/dirt strips, which look to have no/next to no services. 

Key:

• Green: Fully/nearly completed with 3D objects (though bear in mind that some do have inaccuracies, all of the grass strips need the grass tweaked as well as being marked on the map).
• Orange: mostly complete, but a fair bit missing.
• Red: only a satellite texture (usually you can see the white runway edge markings) or otherwise unusable.
• Bold: Airports/airbases with paved runways

I'll be including the camera position, if you want to use it, copy the camera position and press whatever you've got set as you "Load camera position from clipboard" bind (default is RAlt + RCtrl + .)

 

East Falkland:

• Bleaker Island (north): -camera 32.757283 0.854043 20.613596 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
• Bleaker Island (south) (there are alignment issues with one of the runways though): -camera 30.400033 1.108067 21.123494 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000 (this is supposedly unusable IRL - thanks Minsky).
• Douglas Station (missing a runway): -camera 113.238410 0.939794 35.650168 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
• George Island (though runway texture needs improvement IMO - it's nearly invisible): -camera 11.893639 0.537579 -40.272161 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
• Goose Green: -camera 72.605148 0.998672 11.223588 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
• Lively Island: -camera 53.888080 0.744607 47.470172 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
• North Arm: -camera 37.465652 1.504742 -14.655474 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
• Port San Carlos (depicted as San Carlos FOB): -camera 107.888664 0.949092 8.574744 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
• Port Stanely: -camera 89.051820 1.769579 93.974434 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
• RAF Mount Pleasant: -camera 73.063617 3.482384 47.563840 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
• Salvador: -camera 116.100012 0.612966 51.818779 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
• Sea Lion (east) (though buildings are inaccurate): -camera 4.809958 1.151060 6.384232 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
• Sea Lion (west): -camera 3.265020 1.069429 3.170828 -cameradir -0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
• Speedwell: -camera 25.361855 0.644461 -39.681768 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000 (what's interesting though is that Speedwell Settlement itself is just a satellite texture with no 3D buildings).

West Falkland:

• Albermarle (just missing a building): -camera 25.660454 0.671046 -93.861055 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
• Beaver Island: -camera 63.697037 0.506847 -143.972805 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
• Carcass Island: -camera 130.415531 1.513909 -102.908148 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
• Chartres: -camera 81.163820 0.684786 -63.898967 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
• Dunbar (pretty much invisible, but can be seen in online maps - looks to be just a grass strip with no structures or objects): -camera 113.343999 1.179578 -90.281776 -cameradir -0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
• Dunnose Head: -camera 76.338359 0.848585 -88.113117 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
• Fox Bay: -camera 57.192461 1.458567 -62.880885 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
• Fox Bay East (completely invisible, but can be clearly seen in Google Earth) -camera 55.036822 0.586522 -62.790586 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
• Fox Bay Helipad (there are 3D objects here, but there's a load of rubble on the helipad, making it unusable. It's also not very accurate): -camera 55.613131 0.283268 -63.042398 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
• Golding Island (almost totally invisible, buildings obstructing where runway should be): -camera 121.529078 0.473018 -39.683043 -cameradir -0.000000 -1.000000 -0.000000
• Hill Cove: -camera 104.790262 1.114587 -70.561602 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
• Keppel Island (next to invisible in DCS, but is visible in Google Earth, AFAIK this strip is abandoned IRL): -camera 125.822730 0.483230 -57.151736 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
• Lively Island: -camera 73.942031 0.818586 -147.824445 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
• Pebble Island: -camera 128.082293 0.868419 -34.279484 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000 (there is another one 3 km to the south-east that is completed, but its existence is dubious: -camera 125.629457 0.643974 -32.123635 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000)
• Port Edgar: -camera 39.216600 0.998028 -77.197738 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
• Port Howard (though very difficult to see from a birdseye view): -camera 94.424012 0.852470 -26.526017 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
• Port Howard Puvis: -camera 99.505207 0.752227 -27.998117 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
• Port Stephens (just missing a building): -camera 36.968980 1.212508 -116.229746 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
• Roy Cove: -camera 100.265992 0.731118 -85.116441 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
• Saunders Island (only the large dirt runway is present, in Google Earth it looks like there's at least 1-2 more runways): -camera 119.009359 1.160907 -67.458234 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
• Shallow Harbour: -camera 75.639723 0.689464 -96.258117 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
• Spring Point (just missing 1-2 buildings): -camera 67.650227 1.027226 -90.233844 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
• Weddel Island: -camera 61.063631 0.819988 -121.176082 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
• Westpoint Island: -camera 120.750535 0.476927 -108.923277 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000

 

Note that the grass probably needs tweaking for the majority of grass strips (it's definitely on the long side compared to grass strips on other maps). In most cases they're marked with small white rocks, but said rocks disappear at <1 km away and given the textures and in some cases, lack of vegetation, some of them are incredibly difficult to spot.

To summarise 26/38, aerodomes (~68%) on the islands are present in a usable state, with the remainder either not present at all or not usable.

Edited August 17, 2022 by Northstar98
Added Dunbar on West Falkland - thanks Minsky! Adjusted totals

[Minsky]

7 hours ago, Northstar98 said:

• Bleaker Island (there are alignment issues with one of the runways though): -camera 30.400033 1.108067 21.123494 -cameradir 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000 (interesting is that I can't find it on satellite imagery online, there's just undergrowth where the airstrip is in DCS).

I'm assuming you're using Google Maps/Earth?

Their imagery of Falklands seem to be really outdated and inferior to Esri/Bing/Apple that all have Bleaker clearly visible.

 

[Northstar98]

1 hour ago, Minsky said:

I'm assuming you're using Google Maps/Earth?

I was, backing it up with wikimapia.

1 hour ago, Minsky said:

Their imagery of Falklands seem to be really outdated and inferior to Esri/Bing/Apple that all have Bleaker clearly visible.

Yeah, I just looked on zoom.earth and spotted it straight away.

On Bing I can even see another airstrip to the north.

EDIT: Actually, could it be that the southern airstrip, closer to the settlement is abandoned IRL?

Edited June 13, 2022 by Northstar98

[RampantCoyote]

Stuff to look forward to!

 

[Minsky]

3 hours ago, Northstar98 said:

On Bing I can even see another airstrip to the north.

EDIT: Actually, could it be that the southern airstrip, closer to the settlement is abandoned IRL?

The southern strip at Lafonia Point (which we have in DCS) is unnamed/abandoned. And the norther strip at Gull Point (which we don't have) is the actual Bleaker Island Airfield.

https://bleakerisland.com/maps/

[Northstar98]

8 hours ago, Minsky said:

The southern strip at Lafonia Point (which we have in DCS) is unnamed/abandoned. And the norther strip at Gull Point (which we don't have) is the actual Bleaker Island Airfield.

https://bleakerisland.com/maps/

Got it, I've edited my above post.

[Minsky]

3 hours ago, Northstar98 said:

Got it, I've edited my above post.

Or, it could be that the map on their site is outdated, and five years ago they began to build a (much larger) southern airfield 

Sent them an email, we'll see if they answer.

[Minsky]

Got a reply from guys at Bleaker Island. The map on their site is correct. The airstrip at Gull Point is currently in use, and the one near Lafonia Point is unusable.

[Northstar98]

In the last update the following aerodromes on the Falkland Islands/Islas Malvinas were added:

East Falkland:

• North Arm
• Salvador

West Falkland:

• Albermarle
• Chartres
• Hill Cove
• Pebble Island
• Port Stephens
• Spring Point

 

See this post for the more comprehensive list.

[Minsky]

 

@Northstar98 Think you've missed one: Dunbar

Crosschecked your list, and the rest seems to be correct. Thanks for keeping it organized and up to date!

Updated the OP as well.

[Nealius]

Finally some good bush flying! It's good to see many of them got smoothed out. I found one or two of them on initial release but the strips were so rough they would flip anything daintier than a Yak. 

[Minsky]

Three new airfields have been added in DCS 2.7.17.29140 Open Beta - 24.08.2022:

- El Calafate, Argentina
- Puerto Natales, Chile
- Puerto Williams, Chile

No other changes, no new unmarked airstrips.

Updated map and miz file in the first post.

[Baco]

So Pto. Natales was not announced and we are missing Santa Cruz as per announced.

"New - Added Airfield Aeropuerto de Santa Cruz
New - Added Airfield Aeropuerto Guardiamarina Zanartu(Puerto Williams)
New - Added Aerodromo Guardiamarina Zanartu (Puerto Williams)
New - El Calafate"

 

Cool grate variety so far... 

Personally hoping Santa Cruz, Luis Piedra Buena and O´higgins are next.