fixed Keep getting CTD with A10C2

[PSYKOnz]

My crashes were in the tomcat and the viper, Unfortunately for me it was only a full reinstall that has had any effect *so far* I did find out that online seems to be much worse for it and  the loading times are stupid long

I put together a test mission, flew it, no trouble, all the gfx were there when I started it, I then loaded it onto my DS 30 seconds later I was in the same place, hit fly and it took a good 30-60 seconds to load everything, jet, cockpit, terrain, objects the whole lot, took an age considering it was instant when I played the exact same mission not 30 seconds before.

Could that have something to do with it?

 

[QuozL]

20 hours ago, Flappie said:

Great! Some progress.

Can the others please confirm? @QuozL @Gryzor @DirtyMike0330

 

Will have a go tonight, just saw your post will try without the raster chart, FYI I am only flying the A10C2 in VR with Reverb G2. Usually the crashes have been with MAV on left MFCD and TGP on right. ALso seems to happen after first death when I am restarting at Incirlik or similar, sometimes if I leave everythign alone and let it go through the win - home startup it will be fine but other times if I do anything else while startup like open F10 it will insta CTD.

dcs.log-20221109-130557.zip dcs.log-20221109-123240.zip

Edited November 12, 2022 by QuozL

[Amox]

4 hours ago, QuozL said:

Will have a go tonight, just saw your post will try without the raster chart, FYI I am only flying the A10C2 in VR with Reverb G2. Usually the crashes have been with MAV on left MFCD and TGP on right. ALso seems to happen after first death when I am restarting at Incirlik or similar, sometimes if I leave everythign alone and let it go through the win - home startup it will be fine but other times if I do anything else while startup like open F10 it will insta CTD.

dcs.log-20221109-130557.zip 232.11 kB · 1 download dcs.log-20221109-123240.zip 261.5 kB · 1 download

 

Just make sure you dont turn the mav page to raster chart it will most probably crash. When you use the auto start function too it ends at the raster chart and can crash.

i have been flying the full day with a10 doing this and so far no more crashes.

[QuozL]

Still crashed after getting shot down, restarted, did win home startup (sorry dont know full cold start procedure) while in startup changed to dsms screen and crashed. Attached file

dcs.log-20221113-080030.zip

Edited November 13, 2022 by QuozL

[Flappie]

@tech_op2000 Hi. Welcome to the "club". A few users reported the same kind of crash with the A-10C and A-10C II. Please join us and try this:

 

[Flappie]

Can you please try attached track and see if it causes DCS to crash? It does not on my rig.

cold start + switching to TAD.trk

[QuozL]

1 hour ago, Flappie said:

Can you please try attached track and see if it causes DCS to crash? It does not on my rig.

cold start + switching to TAD.trk 426.79 kB · 0 downloads

Sure but I have no idea how to load it / view it / run it. Can you give me a heads up, new to DCS so never loaded a track

 

BTW here is another crash from tonight, no going to the raster chart

 

dcs.log-20221113-111539.zip

[Flappie]

In the main menu, click "Replay", then select the .trk file. From there, it will work like a regular mission, but you won't have control.

By the way, you can take control over the track whenever you want (press Escape, then choose "Take control").

[QuozL]

2 minutes ago, Flappie said:

In the main menu, click "Replay", then select the .trk file. From there, it will work like a regular mission, but you won't have control.

By the way, you can take control over the track whenever you want (press Escape, then choose "Take control").

Do i need to copy it to the tracks folder first? If so should it go in the multiplayer folder in there? Or should I just point it at the folder I saved it to ?

[Flappie]

No, you can place it wherever you want. The Replay menu lets you browse your files.

Edited November 13, 2022 by Flappie

[QuozL]

So I chose Replay, picked your file and then launched it by selecting OK (I did not select Launch Multiplayer Server) it ran through the entire replay without crashing

[Flappie]

Thank you. That means there's probably a specific procedure that leads to the crash. We need to find it.

[QuozL]

If you look at the file I just posted it was a restart after being killed, (this is usually when it crashes) it is always when I chnage a screen or go to the map or similar while it is in the startup procedure. If I make it through that it is then usually when chnaging to the map while in the air. Happy to help with any testing to get to the bottom of this.

 

Cheers Q

Edited November 13, 2022 by QuozL

[Flappie]

I tried this on a MP server, but couldn't produce crash.

The best thing we could send to devs is a procedure with steps leading to the crash 100% of the time.

[QuozL]

As mentioned previously, 

Join MP server, choose A10-C II
do win home start up,  while this is going on if it is the first time joining server I can do anything on MFCD's or anything on the F1 to F12 menus, then fly, get killed

If I then reload from briefing, do cold start win-home procedure, if I then change any mfcd or go to any of the F1 to F12 screens or options screens (crew Chief etc.) it will crash 99% of the time. If i leave it to go through the start up procedure without touching anything I can sometimes get off the ground again but if I select anything like the map or change an MFCD screen it will crash immediately.

Will keep posting crash logs each time it happens.

FYI, PC specs are in signature, it's not a slow or low spec machine by any standards, I am using VR on a reverb G2 if that makes any difference

As I fly only the A-10 C II it has pretty much ruined the game for me until a patch / fix is found
Cheers for trying to help get to the bottom of it
 

Edited November 14, 2022 by QuozL

[BulldozA]

Booted up the A-10C II to grab a crash log, lasted longer before I crashed than I usually get.

Multiplayer server, A-10C II cold start.
Used the auto start & flew around a bit, cycled through F2 & F7 cameras as going from F2/7/10 back to F1 is what usually causes my crash, all was fine.
Flew around until I was shot down, respawned & did an auto start, was on the F10 map when auto start completed, hit F1 & as soon as I was back in the cockpit the game froze & crashed.

Streamed it to capture what I was doing at the time - https://clips.twitch.tv/ModernBoredTildeImGlitch-t0Vq9sWGeSYu4gSf

dcs.log-20221114-063742.zip

[BIGNEWY]

Posts merged

[DirtyMike0330]

Is this a known/acknowledged issue @BIGNEWYat this point? Seems like too many occurrences to be limited to user error. I have seen multiple issues on the forum now talking about CTD in Harriers, A-10s, and on multiplayer servers in general. I myself can attest that I NEVER had CTD issues prior to 2.8 and am now frequently crashing in the A10CII, I CTD 3-4 times in a row trying to take a Harrier slot yesterday (worked fine in Instant Action, but I play on a private multiplayer server with my squad). Something is definitely wonky post-update.  Yes, that is a scientific term

[QuozL]

Another CTD tonight in the A-10 C II in VR.

This one was very straight forward, joined server, plane already in started state , enter waypoint of enemy sam, fly to waypoint, get shot down, return to briefing screen and CTD when clicking Fly. See attached logfile

Edit: and a second CTD after flying 128m to target, kill one target while getting ready to hit second target at same location task left MFCD to DSMS and game CTD. See second attached logfile

dcs.log-20221114-131610.zip

dcs.log-20221114-142017.zip

Edited November 14, 2022 by QuozL

[jonfog]

Okay my crashes came in the Hotas Training. Both A10-C and A10-CII. To me it looked like it happened when I was switching the MFD and SOI around.

I noticed that there was an Windows update around a 11/13. Since then my Virpil control panel gives an error in joy.cpl if i click Properties. It works in the Virpil configuration and behaves normally in DCS.

 Windows 10, version 22H2. Saw that there is a new update KB4023057, and I will see if it does anything good.

 

No luck. Just been flying the Hotas Fundamentals training and fooling around with the MFD's.

dcs.log-20221115-201425.zip

Edited November 15, 2022 by jonfog

[Section8]

I am also seeing crashes to desktop flying my A-10CII in VR doing seemingly random things.

I've tried repairing the install as well as deleting the contents of the fxo and metashaders2 folders to no avail.

 

dcs.log-20221115-133402.zipdcs.log-20221113-141703.zipdcs.log-20221114-084104.zipdcs.log-20221114-133531.zip

[Flappie]

I may have some good news. Devs were able to replicate the crash using one of the track files sent through the auto-report feature (you know, the grey popup window often showing up when DCS crashes - it's very useful to devs) and they are working on a fix.

Edited November 16, 2022 by Flappie

[Section8]

That's great news! Glad to hear those crash reports aren't for nothing. Can't wait to get back to flying the hog again!

[QuozL]

Great news, have sent in crash report first before posting here everytime it has happened, glad they are useful and they have been able to replicate.

[Yurgon]

From today's OpenBeta Changelog:

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DCS World

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• Fixed rare crash caused by using TAD MFD mostly in A-10C II (in edterrainGraphics41.dll)

That hopefully solves the problem for everyone, but if it doesn't, let us know!