Deka Simulations announces the DCS: J-8II for DCS World!

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

5 hours ago, PLAAF said:

You took the words right out of my mouth.

Honestly, as nice as it would have been to get the domestic kit, this odd off shoot is appealing to me more and more. It's going to be very interesting to use, I think.

[Iron Sights]

I agree, another full fidelity red force plane, nuff said.

[LowRider88]

7 hours ago, PLAAF said:

You took the words right out of my mouth.

Comparing the pic you posted in your history of the J-7 and J-8 threat of the J-8F cockpit, with the pic of the J-8IIPP cockpit UBoats posted, actually the PP is not too different to the F.

The F has the F-15 throttle, the extra MFD/HDD, and a different upper centre console, but the PP looks fairly similar.

The MFD seems to be the same style with the same number and layout of buttons.

 

 

[PLAAF]

1 hour ago, LowRider88 said:

Comparing the pic you posted in your history of the J-7 and J-8 threat of the J-8F cockpit, with the pic of the J-8IIPP cockpit UBoats posted, actually the PP is not too different to the F.

The F has the F-15 throttle, the extra MFD/HDD, and a different upper centre console, but the PP looks fairly similar.

The MFD seems to be the same style with the same number and layout of buttons.

Honestly, I have reservations about this picture. As you can see, the resolution is very low and it was not released by official media, but by military enthusiasts. However, because the later T variant didn't have much improvement over this one, so even if this one is not accurate, it won't be a far stretch from the truth.

[FlankerFan35]

We're getting PL-8s so I'm happy.

[Bananabrai]

On 2/23/2023 at 9:27 AM, Wyvern said:

I do appreciate having Datalink and Mavericks or JDAMs, which just nice when chilling and watching youtube on the side.

Always depends on how you are flying. What you describe is exactly what I am experiencing with older aircraft such as F-86F and F1CE:
Don't have to fiddle with alignment, TGPs, WPs, TDC depress <profanity>. 

Instead, turning on the engine, full throttle, ...

Always personal preference. When I want to fly a modern yet, I want to use its complexity and system depth and for that I have to focus.

[LowRider88]

Hi @unoats,

Would you have any details about the corner speeds, perhaps at sea level?

[FlankerFan35]

Not our J-8 model but very nice, rare J-8 footage. If anyone speaks Chinese, please tell what they are saying

[LowRider88]

7 hours ago, FlankerFan35 said:

Not our J-8 model but very nice, rare J-8 footage. If anyone speaks Chinese, please tell what they are saying

This channel also has an 8 part miniseries documentary on the J-8:

 

[FlankerFan35]

1 hour ago, LowRider88 said:

This channel also has an 8 part miniseries documentary on the J-8:

 

Wish had subtitles

 

[LowRider88]

Could this mean we will get the F soon?

 

 

[PLAAF]

14 hours ago, LowRider88 said:

Could this mean we will get the F soon?

 

 

As far as I know, the plan is to phase out all 2nd and 3rd gen fighters by the end of 2025. So I do expect Deka to get their permission after that.

Edited April 4, 2023 by PLAAF

[F-2]

5 hours ago, PLAAF said:

As far as I know, the plan is to phase all 2nd and 3rd gen fighters by the end of 2025. So I do expect Deka to get their permission after that.

 

Some excerpts of an early J-8II have been making the rounds on the Chinese internet in the last few months I’m inclined to agree.

[FlankerFan35]

16 hours ago, LowRider88 said:

Could this mean we will get the F soon?

 

 

J-8F came around about two years before the J-10A so I'd prefer that over two J-8 variants.

[F-2]

There is a brochure of the KLJ-1 listing all its operating modes from a mid 2000s zhuhai airshow. I’m trying to get a copy.

[F-2]

So I found some documentation on KLJ-1. It appears the radar is a Chinese version of APG-66. Same modes/settings with some RWS for PL-12. It seems the J-8F is simply J-8PP but an all Chinese go it alone. Rather then abandon PP it seems they decided to do it themselves. 

[PLAAF]

20 hours ago, F-2 said:

So I found some documentation on KLJ-1. It appears the radar is a Chinese version of APG-66. Same modes/settings with some RWS for PL-12. It seems the J-8F is simply J-8PP but an all Chinese go it alone. Rather then abandon PP it seems they decided to do it themselves. 

Nice job. Can you send me a copy too, please? 

Edit:
How did you pay to get those? You need a Chinese bank account to download them. Secondly, I didn't see any reference to KLJ-1 or APG-66. It appears to be some design criteria and standardisations for the fire control system of J-8III, not J-8F. 

I haven't opened my WeChat wallet system so I can't pay for it. Therefore I can only read the second file. As for the first file, I can only read the first half. If you have already paid and downloaded it, please share   

Edited June 26, 2023 by PLAAF

[Devil 505]

On 4/2/2023 at 1:08 AM, FlankerFan35 said:

Not our J-8 model but very nice, rare J-8 footage. If anyone speaks Chinese, please tell what they are saying

Look at 2:28, the Chinese Government used DCS to promote their AAR refueling. LOL. They owe us now! Information for the next Chinese Red module in return for using this footage of JF-17. 

[Mike_Romeo]

On 7/16/2023 at 10:27 PM, Devil 505 said:

Chinese Government used DCS to promote their AAR refueling

They also used DCS mods to scare the world https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/tailless-warplane-concept-may-provide-clues-to-chinas-future-fighter-ambitions

[LowRider88]

11 hours ago, Mike_Romeo said:

They also used DCS mods to scare the world https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/tailless-warplane-concept-may-provide-clues-to-chinas-future-fighter-ambitions

How is that scary?  How is that different from anywhere else?

[PLAAF]

On 7/25/2023 at 3:37 PM, LowRider88 said:

How is that scary?  How is that different from anywhere else?

Read this and you will understand why some people found that "scary".

 

 

[Ben27603]

On 2/10/2023 at 1:19 PM, Falconeer said:

Looks very promising Deka! Judging by what you have done when you delivered the awsome JF17, i'm sure this will be an great module aswell!!

And haters gonna hate, don't let it get to you guys. You guys are awesome!

I need to add the J-8 but looks like fertile ground ahead.

[Silver_Dragon]

13 minutes ago, Ben27603 said:

I need to add the J-8 but looks like fertile ground ahead.

Super tucano and AI-58 Pucara has not Rumores / Hinted, has confirmed by RAZBAM an on develop. You missing DCS: WW2 Marinas map by ED, F-6F Hellcat has on progress by ED WW2 team (no Fliying Iron) as Battle of Britain modules and Me262 on plans, Bo-105 by Mag-3/Razbam, P-9A Tucano by Check Six. Su-17 has a progress by Octopus-G. LN/Mag3 has none confirm yet Su-22 (on fact, creator move to another 3rd party). ED WW2 / OnReTech / Ugra future maps on progress. ED continue expand WW2 assets packs, as Deka with chinnese Pack, RAZBAM with SA/LATAM/US assets pack, M-3 with the Pacific WW2 incoming on F4-U1.

Check here:

 

[F-2]

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP04T00794R000200940001-4.pdf
 

CIA rates J-8 peace pearl higher then the Mig-23 in 1986

[Bananabrai]

On 8/16/2023 at 6:07 PM, Ben27603 said:

I need to add the J-8 but looks like fertile ground ahead.

I wonder:

- How you assumed our TOR as modern. It's a CW plane and we do the non-modernized CW version of it, which we stated.
- And then the iCH-47 we are getting (w/ MFDs and modernized systems etc., like the AH-64D) as CW instead of modern (besides, there was an ingame video of that)
- Same for the C-130J with MFDs glued everywhere as CW?
- And in general the difference between 'Nam and CW (e.g.: F-4E -> CW ?)

For your question: the J-8 probably is still some time away. But you'll rate it somehow.