RackMonkey Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Every time I login I am upside down and 180 degrees out, facing the hanger doors under the headset. The mirror on the monitor is right side up but still 180 degrees out. Guess I'll wait for the first update. MSI Z490 Tomahawk, I5-11600kf, 2X512GB NvME, RTX4090, 32GB DDR4 3200, Reverb G2, T50-CM2, OpenXR 31st TFW, 14th MAS, 9th ARS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverdevil Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 2 hours ago, RackMonkey said: Every time I login I am upside down and 180 degrees out, facing the hanger doors under the headset. The mirror on the monitor is right side up but still 180 degrees out. Guess I'll wait for the first update. hello. can you add anything? like a screen shot of the issue? sounds like your views are messed up. AKA_SilverDevil AKA Forums My YouTube “It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.” — Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RackMonkey Posted March 21, 2023 Author Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) Well, I updated tools this morning to 1.3.0. Before that I would occasionally get the correct view, but after updating, not a single load into DCS-MT was correct. Every time I got to the hanger it as backwards and upside down. Flying in the non-MT DCS version all the views are correct even if the display still sucks in VR. I've tried disabling the tools but that didnt have any effect on the MT views even though it seems like updating it totally screwed it up. Edited March 21, 2023 by RackMonkey MSI Z490 Tomahawk, I5-11600kf, 2X512GB NvME, RTX4090, 32GB DDR4 3200, Reverb G2, T50-CM2, OpenXR 31st TFW, 14th MAS, 9th ARS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverdevil Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 10 hours ago, RackMonkey said: I updated tools this morning to 1.3.0 can you be more specific on this? i do not use any mods. i am unfamiliar. AKA_SilverDevil AKA Forums My YouTube “It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.” — Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted March 22, 2023 ED Team Share Posted March 22, 2023 15 hours ago, RackMonkey said: Every time I login I am upside down and 180 degrees out, facing the hanger doors under the headset. The mirror on the monitor is right side up but still 180 degrees out. Guess I'll wait for the first update. please remove all unofficial edit or tools. if you still see issue attach your dcs log and dxdiag we will take a closer look. if you are using vr check any tools you might be using, necksafer / open composite for example Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RackMonkey Posted March 22, 2023 Author Share Posted March 22, 2023 Done this morning, 4/23. All mods were removed. XRNS was not started. OpenComposite was uninstalled. I am assuming that DCS is now running on it's own native OpenXR software. Repair was run. Update was run and todays update installed. No setting in DCS were changed. All other software was checked for updates and installed if there was one. dcs.zip MSI Z490 Tomahawk, I5-11600kf, 2X512GB NvME, RTX4090, 32GB DDR4 3200, Reverb G2, T50-CM2, OpenXR 31st TFW, 14th MAS, 9th ARS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted March 22, 2023 ED Team Share Posted March 22, 2023 2 hours ago, RackMonkey said: Done this morning, 4/23. All mods were removed. XRNS was not started. OpenComposite was uninstalled. I am assuming that DCS is now running on it's own native OpenXR software. Repair was run. Update was run and todays update installed. No setting in DCS were changed. All other software was checked for updates and installed if there was one. dcs.zip 23.22 kB · 0 downloads Hi the log still shows some mods in C:\Users\Jon\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\Mods I would remove them and run another slow repair just in case Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RackMonkey Posted March 22, 2023 Author Share Posted March 22, 2023 I did as you suggested, I just got rid of anything in the mod folder. Ran the slow repair. Three tries and was still looking at the doors instead of the menu. I've attached the newest log file. Check it and didnt see anything referencing the saved games folder. dcs.log MSI Z490 Tomahawk, I5-11600kf, 2X512GB NvME, RTX4090, 32GB DDR4 3200, Reverb G2, T50-CM2, OpenXR 31st TFW, 14th MAS, 9th ARS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz1004 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, RackMonkey said: I did as you suggested, I just got rid of anything in the mod folder. Ran the slow repair. Three tries and was still looking at the doors instead of the menu. I've attached the newest log file. Check it and didnt see anything referencing the saved games folder. dcs.log 22.29 kB · 0 downloads You still have Simple Radio Standalone in Saved Games. Try renaming your Saved Games folder. Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RackMonkey Posted March 22, 2023 Author Share Posted March 22, 2023 I removed the "Saved Games" folder to my desktop, ran a repair, and started DCS. I was still looking at the hanger doors. The repair replaced the folder "DCS Updater utility" but nothing else. Starting DCS and flying around did not cause any of the saved game folder to be regenerated. I don't think anything in the saved games folder is causing the problem and I don't understand why none of the folders were not regenerated. MSI Z490 Tomahawk, I5-11600kf, 2X512GB NvME, RTX4090, 32GB DDR4 3200, Reverb G2, T50-CM2, OpenXR 31st TFW, 14th MAS, 9th ARS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THERION Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, RackMonkey said: I removed the "Saved Games" folder to my desktop, ran a repair, and started DCS. I was still looking at the hanger doors. The repair replaced the folder "DCS Updater utility" but nothing else. Starting DCS and flying around did not cause any of the saved game folder to be regenerated. I don't think anything in the saved games folder is causing the problem and I don't understand why none of the folders were not regenerated. Instead of "removing" your saved games folder, you'd better rename DCS.openbeta temporary. Then launch your DCS and the game should build a brand-new DCS.openbeta in your saved games folder for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RackMonkey Posted March 22, 2023 Author Share Posted March 22, 2023 I essentially did that when I recreated the "Saved Games" folder, just an empty one. DCS repair created the "DCS Updater Utility" folder and populated it, that confirms that DCS was able to write to the "Saved Games" folder but it didn't recreate the DCS.openbeta folder and populate it. Even without it though, DCS-MT started and open to the hanger screen and I was still looking at the doors instead of the menu. MSI Z490 Tomahawk, I5-11600kf, 2X512GB NvME, RTX4090, 32GB DDR4 3200, Reverb G2, T50-CM2, OpenXR 31st TFW, 14th MAS, 9th ARS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz1004 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 14 minutes ago, RackMonkey said: I essentially did that when I recreated the "Saved Games" folder, just an empty one. DCS repair created the "DCS Updater Utility" folder and populated it, that confirms that DCS was able to write to the "Saved Games" folder but it didn't recreate the DCS.openbeta folder and populate it. Even without it though, DCS-MT started and open to the hanger screen and I was still looking at the doors instead of the menu. What's DCS Updater Utility? Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverdevil Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 38 minutes ago, Taz1004 said: What's DCS Updater Utility? hello. here is a forum post dedicated to the utility. AKA_SilverDevil AKA Forums My YouTube “It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.” — Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz1004 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 20 minutes ago, silverdevil said: hello. here is a forum post dedicated to the utility. Thanks but I'm aware. I wasn't sure the OP was referring to that one nor that was considered official utility. Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RackMonkey Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share Posted March 23, 2023 It's not a DCS piece of software. I think it is part of Skate Zilla's updater and launch app. MSI Z490 Tomahawk, I5-11600kf, 2X512GB NvME, RTX4090, 32GB DDR4 3200, Reverb G2, T50-CM2, OpenXR 31st TFW, 14th MAS, 9th ARS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art-J Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) Some guys in the other thread in this section of the forum found that uninstalling the neck saver completely (not just disabling it) solved the upside-down issue for them. Worth trying maybe? See here: https://forum.dcs.world/topic/320963-upside-down/?do=getNewComment Edited March 23, 2023 by Art-J i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted March 23, 2023 ED Team Share Posted March 23, 2023 11 hours ago, RackMonkey said: I did as you suggested, I just got rid of anything in the mod folder. Ran the slow repair. Three tries and was still looking at the doors instead of the menu. I've attached the newest log file. Check it and didnt see anything referencing the saved games folder. dcs.log 22.29 kB · 2 downloads please rename the dcs folder in saved games C:\Users\Jon\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta to C:\Users\Jon\Saved Games\DCS.openbetabackup then restart DCS login and redo settings if you load in. let me know if it helps Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution RackMonkey Posted March 23, 2023 Author Solution Share Posted March 23, 2023 I think I have other problems because DCS did not rebuild the saved games even after I mapped some HOTAS commands. I think the best thing I can do right now is to rebuild this computer and if DCS-MT is still giving me problem...repost. MSI Z490 Tomahawk, I5-11600kf, 2X512GB NvME, RTX4090, 32GB DDR4 3200, Reverb G2, T50-CM2, OpenXR 31st TFW, 14th MAS, 9th ARS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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