corbu1 Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 Virpil is teasing the AH-64 Collective…. 2 1 DCS MT : 2.9.4.53707 Modules: UH-1H - SA342 - KA-50 BS3 - MI-24P - MI-8MTV2 - AH-64D - CH-47F(Preorder) - UH-60L(Mod) - A-10CII - F-16C - F/A-18C - FC3 -Combined Arms - Supercarrier - NTTR - Normandy2.0 - Persian Gulf - Syria - SA - Sinai - Afghanistan(Preorder) — Waiting for: OH-58D - BO-105 - AH-1G/F(Mod) - OH-6(Mod) - Kola - Australia - Iraq DCS-Client: 10900K, 64GB 3600, RTX3090, 500GB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCS), VR VivePro2, PointCTRL, VaicomPro, Wacom Intuos S with VRK v2Beta DCS-DServer: 11600KF, 32GB 3600, GTX1080, 1TB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCSDServer), DCS Olympus Simpit: NLR Flightsim Pro, TM Warthog Grip with 30cm Extension + Throttle, VPforce Rhino FFB, Komodo Pedals with Dampers, VPC Rotorplus+CBkit+AH-64D Grip, NLR HF8, Buttkicker (3*MiniConcert), TotalControls AH64D MPD‘s, TM 2*MFD‘s, Streamdecks (1*32,3*15,1*6), VPC CP#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-S6 Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 I'm going to need one. And an extra long cover to go with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killg0re NL Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Looking forward to this, top grip doesnt look comfortable when mounted like this, ergonomically wise the base mounted bit more backwards would sort this 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-S6 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Killg0re NL said: Looking forward to this, top grip doesnt look comfortable when mounted like this, ergonomically wise the base mounted bit more backwards would sort this Agreed. I think folks with chair mounts are going to want to mod them. I built my mount with this in mind (currently using the blackhawk grip with a 100mm extension) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirrah Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 I expect all counterweight mods will have to be redone as well 2 System specs: i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM ~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markturner1960 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Nice.... System specs: PC1 :Scan 3XS Ryzen 5900X, 64GB Corsair veng DDR4 3600, EVGA GTX 3090 Win 10, Quest Pro, Samsung Odyssey G9 Neo monitor. Tir5. PC2 ( Helo) Scan 3XS Intel 9900 K, 32 GB Ram, 2080Ti, 50 inch Phillips monitor F/A-18C: Rhino FFB base TianHang F16 grip, Winwing MP 1, F-18 throttle, TO & Combat panels, MFG crosswind & DFB Aces seat Viper: WinWing MFSSB base with F-16 grip, Winwing F-16 throttle, plus Vipergear ICP. MFG crosswind rudders. Helo ( Apache) set up: Virpil collective with AH64D grip, Cyclic : Rhino FFB base & TM F18 grip, MFG crosswind rudders, Total controls AH64 MFD's, TEDAC Unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronwhite Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 On 4/10/2023 at 8:27 AM, Scott-S6 said: Agreed. I think folks with chair mounts are going to want to mod them. I built my mount with this in mind (currently using the blackhawk grip with a 100mm extension) I was thinking that with something this long, I would probably just figure out a DIY bench that I could slide under my desk and then position next to my chair when I needed. Then I can keep my Winwing throttle nearby for the stuff I have mapped there, and move the collective into an appropriate position next to my chair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 Well as tempting as I am sure it will be, think I will just continue to stick with my VPC Rotor and Alpha L grip. So far the combo seems to work well for me with the Apache. But I also need more hours in it. 1 Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-S6 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 On 4/10/2023 at 1:42 PM, sirrah said: I expect all counterweight mods will have to be redone as well I have extra weights standing by but since I have an extension on currently (to get the same overall length) I doubt I'll need much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirrah Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 On 6/26/2023 at 3:56 PM, dburne said: Well as tempting as I am sure it will be, think I will just continue to stick with my VPC Rotor and Alpha L grip. So far the combo seems to work well for me with the Apache. But I also need more hours in it. Same here The replica stuff of course is really cool and nice to have, but I expect that the price tag will hold me off from upgrading from my Alpha-L (which is really great btw. I even still have some buttons on the grip that I do not use when in the Apache). 1 System specs: i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM ~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-S6 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 17 hours ago, sirrah said: Same here The replica stuff of course is really cool and nice to have, but I expect that the price tag will hold me off from upgrading from my Alpha-L (which is really great btw. I even still have some buttons on the grip that I do not use when in the Apache). You're not wrong but it's cool as heck and I need it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbu1 Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 I‘ll go for it when it‘s out…..actually but still no further news on it. I guess I‘ll look for use of another steering damper if there will be problems with mounting it. I have already two of them on my cyclic and one attached to my pedals. 3 DCS MT : 2.9.4.53707 Modules: UH-1H - SA342 - KA-50 BS3 - MI-24P - MI-8MTV2 - AH-64D - CH-47F(Preorder) - UH-60L(Mod) - A-10CII - F-16C - F/A-18C - FC3 -Combined Arms - Supercarrier - NTTR - Normandy2.0 - Persian Gulf - Syria - SA - Sinai - Afghanistan(Preorder) — Waiting for: OH-58D - BO-105 - AH-1G/F(Mod) - OH-6(Mod) - Kola - Australia - Iraq DCS-Client: 10900K, 64GB 3600, RTX3090, 500GB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCS), VR VivePro2, PointCTRL, VaicomPro, Wacom Intuos S with VRK v2Beta DCS-DServer: 11600KF, 32GB 3600, GTX1080, 1TB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCSDServer), DCS Olympus Simpit: NLR Flightsim Pro, TM Warthog Grip with 30cm Extension + Throttle, VPforce Rhino FFB, Komodo Pedals with Dampers, VPC Rotorplus+CBkit+AH-64D Grip, NLR HF8, Buttkicker (3*MiniConcert), TotalControls AH64D MPD‘s, TM 2*MFD‘s, Streamdecks (1*32,3*15,1*6), VPC CP#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Trooper Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) I hope Virpil do something bespoke for the AH-64D apache collective base unit and do not use the standard chopper collective unit. For me, It feels painfully long waiting for the 64D collective to be released. Edited July 28, 2023 by Rogue Trooper 1 HP G2 Reverb, Windows 10 VR settings: IPD is 64.5mm, High image quality, G2 reset to 60Hz refresh rate as standard. OpenXR user, Open XR tool kit disabled. Open XR was a massive upgrade for me. DCS: Pixel Density 1.0, Forced IPD at 55 (perceived world size), 0 X MSAA, 0 X SSAA. My real IPD is 64.5mm. Prescription VROptition lenses installed. VR Driver system: I9-9900KS 5Ghz CPU. XI Hero motherboard and RTX 3090 graphics card, 64 gigs Ram, No OC at the mo. MT user (2 - 5 fps gain). DCS run at 60Hz. Vaicom user. Thrustmaster warthog user. MFG pedals with damper upgrade.... and what an upgrade! Total controls Apache MPDs set to virtual Reality height with brail enhancements to ensure 100% button activation in VR.. Simshaker Jet Pro vibration seat.. Uses data from DCS not sound.... you know when you are dropping into VRS with this bad boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Rogue Trooper said: I hope Virpil do something bespoke for the AH-64D apache collective base unit and do not use the standard chopper collective unit. For me, It feels painfully long waiting for the 64D collective to be released. I am somewhat suprised it is taking them this long even especially after that teaser pic they posted on their forums a while ago now. 1 Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Trooper Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 It has to be one of the most challenging collectives to build. There are sooo many switches, hats & analogue hats that need to be squeezed into such a small collective, it must be a nightmare. it is basically 2 collectives in one unit. I am waiting wallet ready! 1 HP G2 Reverb, Windows 10 VR settings: IPD is 64.5mm, High image quality, G2 reset to 60Hz refresh rate as standard. OpenXR user, Open XR tool kit disabled. Open XR was a massive upgrade for me. DCS: Pixel Density 1.0, Forced IPD at 55 (perceived world size), 0 X MSAA, 0 X SSAA. My real IPD is 64.5mm. Prescription VROptition lenses installed. VR Driver system: I9-9900KS 5Ghz CPU. XI Hero motherboard and RTX 3090 graphics card, 64 gigs Ram, No OC at the mo. MT user (2 - 5 fps gain). DCS run at 60Hz. Vaicom user. Thrustmaster warthog user. MFG pedals with damper upgrade.... and what an upgrade! Total controls Apache MPDs set to virtual Reality height with brail enhancements to ensure 100% button activation in VR.. Simshaker Jet Pro vibration seat.. Uses data from DCS not sound.... you know when you are dropping into VRS with this bad boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zcaa0g Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 I'm wondering if they are not only working on the collective, but some sort of native counter balancing solution for it, which the counter balancing has been a common complaint. Or perhaps a new collective base version altogether? I'm 100% speculating here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Trooper Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Agreed. A basic base unit that has hydraulics built into it, a premier unit that any one can upgrade too..... we can hope! 2 HP G2 Reverb, Windows 10 VR settings: IPD is 64.5mm, High image quality, G2 reset to 60Hz refresh rate as standard. OpenXR user, Open XR tool kit disabled. Open XR was a massive upgrade for me. DCS: Pixel Density 1.0, Forced IPD at 55 (perceived world size), 0 X MSAA, 0 X SSAA. My real IPD is 64.5mm. Prescription VROptition lenses installed. VR Driver system: I9-9900KS 5Ghz CPU. XI Hero motherboard and RTX 3090 graphics card, 64 gigs Ram, No OC at the mo. MT user (2 - 5 fps gain). DCS run at 60Hz. Vaicom user. Thrustmaster warthog user. MFG pedals with damper upgrade.... and what an upgrade! Total controls Apache MPDs set to virtual Reality height with brail enhancements to ensure 100% button activation in VR.. Simshaker Jet Pro vibration seat.. Uses data from DCS not sound.... you know when you are dropping into VRS with this bad boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 3 hours ago, Rogue Trooper said: Agreed. A basic base unit that has hydraulics built into it, a premier unit that any one can upgrade too..... we can hope! Yeah that would be nice for sure. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Trooper Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) But without doubt! I am truly looking forward to laying my hands on a collective that has so much switchery, analogue adjustability, and so many 4 way hats that it is beyond belief! The DCS AH-64D and the Physical Virpil collective, Total controls MPDs have literally caused a massive change in my virtual pit. Edited August 3, 2023 by Rogue Trooper 2 HP G2 Reverb, Windows 10 VR settings: IPD is 64.5mm, High image quality, G2 reset to 60Hz refresh rate as standard. OpenXR user, Open XR tool kit disabled. Open XR was a massive upgrade for me. DCS: Pixel Density 1.0, Forced IPD at 55 (perceived world size), 0 X MSAA, 0 X SSAA. My real IPD is 64.5mm. Prescription VROptition lenses installed. VR Driver system: I9-9900KS 5Ghz CPU. XI Hero motherboard and RTX 3090 graphics card, 64 gigs Ram, No OC at the mo. MT user (2 - 5 fps gain). DCS run at 60Hz. Vaicom user. Thrustmaster warthog user. MFG pedals with damper upgrade.... and what an upgrade! Total controls Apache MPDs set to virtual Reality height with brail enhancements to ensure 100% button activation in VR.. Simshaker Jet Pro vibration seat.. Uses data from DCS not sound.... you know when you are dropping into VRS with this bad boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumbergh Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 nullMy god. Do I buy a vpc hawk and collective now or wait....darnit!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbu1 Posted October 1, 2023 Author Share Posted October 1, 2023 I‘ll go for the Apache collective! 1 DCS MT : 2.9.4.53707 Modules: UH-1H - SA342 - KA-50 BS3 - MI-24P - MI-8MTV2 - AH-64D - CH-47F(Preorder) - UH-60L(Mod) - A-10CII - F-16C - F/A-18C - FC3 -Combined Arms - Supercarrier - NTTR - Normandy2.0 - Persian Gulf - Syria - SA - Sinai - Afghanistan(Preorder) — Waiting for: OH-58D - BO-105 - AH-1G/F(Mod) - OH-6(Mod) - Kola - Australia - Iraq DCS-Client: 10900K, 64GB 3600, RTX3090, 500GB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCS), VR VivePro2, PointCTRL, VaicomPro, Wacom Intuos S with VRK v2Beta DCS-DServer: 11600KF, 32GB 3600, GTX1080, 1TB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCSDServer), DCS Olympus Simpit: NLR Flightsim Pro, TM Warthog Grip with 30cm Extension + Throttle, VPforce Rhino FFB, Komodo Pedals with Dampers, VPC Rotorplus+CBkit+AH-64D Grip, NLR HF8, Buttkicker (3*MiniConcert), TotalControls AH64D MPD‘s, TM 2*MFD‘s, Streamdecks (1*32,3*15,1*6), VPC CP#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbu1 Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share Posted October 16, 2023 Apache Collective preorder starting soon….. 2 DCS MT : 2.9.4.53707 Modules: UH-1H - SA342 - KA-50 BS3 - MI-24P - MI-8MTV2 - AH-64D - CH-47F(Preorder) - UH-60L(Mod) - A-10CII - F-16C - F/A-18C - FC3 -Combined Arms - Supercarrier - NTTR - Normandy2.0 - Persian Gulf - Syria - SA - Sinai - Afghanistan(Preorder) — Waiting for: OH-58D - BO-105 - AH-1G/F(Mod) - OH-6(Mod) - Kola - Australia - Iraq DCS-Client: 10900K, 64GB 3600, RTX3090, 500GB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCS), VR VivePro2, PointCTRL, VaicomPro, Wacom Intuos S with VRK v2Beta DCS-DServer: 11600KF, 32GB 3600, GTX1080, 1TB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCSDServer), DCS Olympus Simpit: NLR Flightsim Pro, TM Warthog Grip with 30cm Extension + Throttle, VPforce Rhino FFB, Komodo Pedals with Dampers, VPC Rotorplus+CBkit+AH-64D Grip, NLR HF8, Buttkicker (3*MiniConcert), TotalControls AH64D MPD‘s, TM 2*MFD‘s, Streamdecks (1*32,3*15,1*6), VPC CP#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly870 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Now that is a tempting buy..wonder how much they will charge. 10 hours ago, corbu1 said: Apache Collective preorder starting soon….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cordite Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 I'm concerned they haven't shown this in action with the existing collective bases. I hope they show that before the preorder. Also, is it made in Belarus, or Lithuania? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 17 hours ago, corbu1 said: Apache Collective preorder starting soon….. Going to be a must buy for me. I took a long break from Apache learning and would love to get back to it. This will get me back in. 1 Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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