1BRAVO9 Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 Anyone else use a trackball? For the last 20 years or so I have used a trackball for general pc/internet use. I found them to be more ergonomic in day to day use. I've tried them off and on for several types of gaming throughout the years, some where successful some not. One type of gaming where I thought they had a definite positive impact was flight sims. As I switched from mouse and keyboard to HOTAS I started using my trackball to move the curser around the cockpit. Believe it or not I found it to be much more accurate and efficient. But most importantly, I found it to take up much less "real estate" of my gaming area. Once I started adding the HOTAS, another input device here and there, my desk space became less and less. Less desk space meant less room to traverse the mouse as needed. That's the advantage of a trackball, it needs substantially less space to work. It needs only the footprint of it's physical dimensions. Nothing aggravates me worse than trying to move my mouse in a timely manner to have to pick it up and reset it's location because I've bumped into the monitor stand, keyboard, or the end of the desk. That's one thing you don't have to worry about with a trackball. And if you use desk mounts for your HOTAS and you get the little mouse extension platforms for them, you don't have to worry about keeping your mouse on that little piece of real estate. Just curious if anyone else is using one for their pit or setup. 1
Mr_sukebe Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 (edited) I use both a normal mouse (right hand) and a trackball (for my left hand). Works a treat. Edited May 28, 2023 by Mr_sukebe 1 7800x3d, 5080, 64GB, PCIE5 SSD - Oculus Pro - Moza (AB9), Virpil (Alpha, CM3, CM1 and CM2), WW (TOP and CP), TM (MFDs, Pendular Rudder), Tek Creations (F18 panel), Total Controls (Apache MFD), Jetseat
Ala12Rv-Tundra Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 Trackball user here by my right thigh i5 8400 | 32 Gb RAM | RTX 2080Ti | Virpil Mongoose T-50 base w/ Warthog & Hornet sticks | Warthog throttle | Cougar throttle USB | Orion 2 throttle base w/ Viper & Hornet grips| VKB T-Rudder Mk IV | Oculus Rift S | Buddy-Fox A-10 UFC | 2x TM MFDs & 1x WW DDI | 2x Bass shakers | SIMple SIMpit chair | WW TakeOff panel | Andre JetSeat | WW Hornet UFC | WW Viper ICP FC3 - Warthog - F-5E - Harrier - NTTR - Hornet - Tomcat - Huey - Viper - C-101 - PG - Hip - SuperCarrier - Syria - Warthog II - Hind - South Atlantic - Sinai - Strike Eagle - Phantom - Mirage F1 - Afghanistan - Irak
AlpineGTA Posted May 22, 2023 Posted May 22, 2023 Yes, I have exactly as you describe - a little mouse extension platform on my left, next to my throttle. I fly only in VR and I know where it is at all times without having to feel around for a mouse. I have a left-handed trackball on my left, rather than on my right because it's more convenient to keep my right hand on the stick and use my left hand to click something in the cockpit. It takes a bit of getting used to if you're right handed but it's better than taking my hand off the stick. Especially for warbirds and helicopters. 2 i5-11600K CPU, 64GB DDR4 RAM, XFX Speedster MERC319 AMD Radeon 6900 XT, Oculus Quest 2, HP Reverb G2
Tshark Posted May 22, 2023 Posted May 22, 2023 I use a wireless left thumb trackball in VR. Makes it easy to manipulate the switches without having to take my hand off the stick. 2 9800X3D (5.21GHz Turbo), MSI RTX 4090 OC 24GB, ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING Motherboard, G. Skill Trident Z5 DDR5 RAM 96GB (2x48GB), Crucial P3 Plus 4TB PCIe Gen4 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD, Virpil Alpha Joystick with FFBeast FFB base, T-50CM3 Throttle, MFG Xwind rudder pedals, Pimax Crystal VR.
Rodeo Posted May 24, 2023 Posted May 24, 2023 Same here.. fly VR and use trackball when needed. I have left/right and scroll bonded to my joystick but there is few times need to go the the trackball. Also like you 1Bravo9 I don’t have much real estate in my simpit. Corsair 5000D Black - i913900KS 24 core 3.2GHz - ASUS Z790 Hero DDR5 - 64GB Dominator DDR5 - iCUE H150i Liquid Cooler - QL iCUE Fans- PNY 24GB RTX4090 - 2TB 990 Pro - 2TB 980 Pro - Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS/Throttle and TRP Pedals - Cougars MFD - Total Controls MFBB - TEK AHCP - Trak Racer TR8 Pro cockpit and a frustrating Pimax 8kx Varjo Aero.... "So I commandeered the police car and was giving people rides in it for $80… I don't call it a drinking problem; I call it a 'making to much money' problem"--Jungle Recon
firefox121 Posted May 25, 2023 Posted May 25, 2023 (edited) In VR I use this device https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005004385216575.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.45.7527576aNt85I4&algo_pvid=8f05e41d-051e-4fe4-a3d1-6be65b1e038c&algo_exp_id=8f05e41d-051e-4fe4-a3d1-6be65b1e038c-22&pdp_npi=3%40dis!EUR!17.71!6.02!!!!!%402102111816850522567445956d07ee!12000028993223709!sea!ES!4218856019&curPageLogUid=28eJ42rILTNb , point with my head and press the buttons Found that the best way to use it is on my right index finger at the first falange.....don't interferes when grabbing the stick and buttons and wheel are easy reachables. Edited May 25, 2023 by firefox121 1 Intel i9 10850k - MSI Tomahawk 490z - 64 GB DDR4 3000 - HP Reverb G2 - MSI optix Mag321curv 4k monitor - MSI RTX 3080ti - Winwing Orion Throttle base plus F18 stick
1BRAVO9 Posted May 28, 2023 Author Posted May 28, 2023 As I said earlier, I've used a trackball for GP for years. My dad gave me one he used about 20 years ago and I have been a fan of them since. I still use a traditional mouse for FPS and things like War Thunder/World of Tanks. That being said, I definitely am going to try the lefthanded trackball for DCS. I'm using a righthanded one as we speak, but as others have pointed out, using a lefthanded one allows you to keep your hand on the stick. I'm thinking about getting this one. 1
some1 Posted May 28, 2023 Posted May 28, 2023 I have this model, works very well once you get used to controlling it with the left thumb. Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil WarBRD, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro
1BRAVO9 Posted May 28, 2023 Author Posted May 28, 2023 24 minutes ago, some1 said: I have this model, works very well once you get used to controlling it with the left thumb. Cool, thanks for the feedback. Awesome username by the way!
AlpineGTA Posted May 29, 2023 Posted May 29, 2023 Yes, it's the exact one I have too, It works very well for me. I'm so used to it now that the other day, when I was using a temporary different HOTAS setup, it felt very strange reaching for the mouse with my right hand. I kept instinctively reaching out with my left. 1 i5-11600K CPU, 64GB DDR4 RAM, XFX Speedster MERC319 AMD Radeon 6900 XT, Oculus Quest 2, HP Reverb G2
Youtch Posted September 29, 2024 Posted September 29, 2024 Considering buying a trackball to replace the mouse which is always a challenge to find in VR. I am total noob with trackball but i hear it is more precise. Any reason why the preference seems to be for trackball with mouse shape instead of pure trackball like this: Many thanks in advance for your insight.
some1 Posted September 30, 2024 Posted September 30, 2024 (edited) None, except trackballs are usually bigger and most models only come in wired version. One thing I would avoid are trackballs with touch sensitive area instead of physical scroll ring around the ball. I had one like that and it didn't work well. The ones you posted seem ok. Edited September 30, 2024 by some1 1 1 Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil WarBRD, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro
Nightdare Posted October 1, 2024 Posted October 1, 2024 On 9/29/2024 at 5:07 PM, Youtch said: I am total noob with trackball but i hear it is more precise. My experience with Logitecs is: no, they aren't 1 Intel I5 13600k / AsRock Z790 Steel Legend / MSI 4080s 16G Gaming X Slim / Kingston Fury DDR5 5600 64Gb / Adata 960 Max / HP Reverb G2 v2 Virpil MT50 Mongoost T50 Throttle, T50cm Base & Grip, VFX Grip, ACE Interceptor Rudder Pedals w. damper / WinWing Orion2 18, 18 UFC & HUD, PTO2, 2x MFD1 / Logitech Flight Panel / VKB SEM V / 2x DIY Button Box
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