Caldera Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Hey All, I notice that the TPOD in the F-15E picture quality is really blurry with a lack of allot of detail even at max zoom. Granted, I am used to like sensors in the A-10C and the AH-64D which are excellent. But... The one in the current version of the F-15E is pretty awful by comparison. So my question is if this is true to the actual or an EA thingy? Caldera 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LorenLuke Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 If you've used the F14 module, this targeting pod is literally meant to be the same one as that, which also has some relatively crap resolution. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avio Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 I like the one in the A10C too, but the one in the eagle I feel isn't too bad, just kind of look different with that greenish tint all over. The one the A10C uses is great, allowing for instant switching between IR polarity as well as TV mode. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrEaSeLiTeNiN Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Are we getting another pod (litening?) later on? I hope so. 2 AMD Ryzen 5 5600X | Gigabyte RTX 3070 Gaming OC 8GB | 32GB Adata Spectrix D50 3600 Mhz (16x2) | Asus B550 TUF Plus Gaming | 2TB Aorus Gen4 TM Warthog HOTAS | TrackIR 5 | Windows 10 Home x64 | My HOTAS Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 (edited) 56 minutes ago, GrEaSeLiTeNiN said: Are we getting another pod (litening?) later on? I hope so. Yes. My understanding is that most F-15E airframes went straight from the older LANTIRN pod to using Sniper pods. However as a limited few used the Litening II pod - Razbam plan to model all 3 tageting pods, with the Litening planned for CTU 2010 and SNIPER for CTU 2015. DCS F-15E WIP (14th Feb 2023) and subject to change (from left to right - LANTIRN, Litening and SNIPER targeting pods) Edited August 10, 2023 by Ramsay 5 4 i9 9900K @4.9GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX4070 12GB, 1+2TB NVMe, 6+4TB HD, 4+1TB SSD, Winwing Orion 2 F-15EX Throttle + F-16EX Stick, TPR Pedals, TIR5, Win 10 Pro x64, 1920X1080 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrEaSeLiTeNiN Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 23 minutes ago, Ramsay said: Yes. My understanding is that most F-15E airframes went straight from the older LANTIRN pod to using Sniper pods. However as a limited few used the Litening II pod - Razbam plan to model all 3 tageting pods, with the Litening planned for CTU 2010 and SNIPER for CTU 2015. DCS F-15E WIP (14th Feb 2023) and subject to change (from left to right - LANTIRN, Litening and SNIPER targeting pods) Great news, thanks! 3 AMD Ryzen 5 5600X | Gigabyte RTX 3070 Gaming OC 8GB | 32GB Adata Spectrix D50 3600 Mhz (16x2) | Asus B550 TUF Plus Gaming | 2TB Aorus Gen4 TM Warthog HOTAS | TrackIR 5 | Windows 10 Home x64 | My HOTAS Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignition Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 The problem is the LITENING of DCS. It has a lot of resolution, you can see which target is which from more than 20nm. Also the WMD-7 from the JF17 is a SUPER TGP with ultra high resolution. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixy67 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Ray Charles can see better than the Lantirn Pod 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignition Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 You can see targets clear at 60nm with the LITENING lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBorner Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 On 8/9/2023 at 7:33 PM, LorenLuke said: If you've used the F14 module, this targeting pod is literally meant to be the same one as that, which also has some relatively crap resolution. IRL it’s not the exact same one. Afaik the tomcat got an update for better laser cooling so it works above 25k feet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixy67 Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 On 8/10/2023 at 10:43 AM, Ignition said: The problem is the LITENING of DCS. It has a lot of resolution, you can see which target is which from more than 20nm. Also the WMD-7 from the JF17 is a SUPER TGP with ultra high resolution. Superior Chinese tech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBorner Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 5 hours ago, Pixy67 said: Superior Chinese tech IRL it’s pretty <profanity>ty it seems. Pakistan replaced it with a Turkish Aselpod if I remember correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Home Fries Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 On 9/8/2023 at 8:07 AM, BigBorner said: IRL it’s not the exact same one. Afaik the tomcat got an update for better laser cooling so it works above 25k feet. The Tomcats started with the 25k LANTIRN pods, but upgraded because they weren't planning on changing pods. The USAF went to the LITENING pod fairly quickly after LANTIRN and didn't need the 40k LANTIRN upgrade. 1 -Home Fries My DCS Files and Skins My DCS TARGET Profile for Cougar or Warthog and MFDs F-14B LANTIRN Guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee1hy Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 When I drop a gbu12 using an f-14's jester, it hits the target 10/10 times, but this product has a lot of problems with jdam and its TGP performance is very poor. 1 creator of ED's official F-16C liveries (WP,OS, 132nd, 152nd, 174th) AH-64D livery contest winner kim_123456#3214 My user files https://shorturl.at/cdKV5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignition Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 4 hours ago, lee1hy said: When I drop a gbu12 using an f-14's jester, it hits the target 10/10 times, but this product has a lot of problems with jdam and its TGP performance is very poor. What do you mean by TGP performance? If you're talking about the visual quality then is the best representation in DCS. And what JDAM problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloppyDog Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 On 4/22/2024 at 1:21 PM, Ignition said: What do you mean by TGP performance? If you're talking about the visual quality then is the best representation in DCS. And what JDAM problems? LGB and JDAMs fall long of the target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuLLeT.ZA Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 On 4/24/2024 at 3:43 AM, SloppyDog said: LGB and JDAMs fall long of the target. Yeah, that's a known issue. Specifically the aft CFT stations I think. 1 Saitek X52 | 4770k@4.3GHz | MSI 1080GTX Armor OC | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizzRD Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 On 4/24/2024 at 3:43 AM, SloppyDog said: LGB and JDAMs fall long of the target. Yes and No I´d say. LGBs do land long if tossed, level release works just fine. 8 hours ago, BuLLeT.ZA said: Yeah, that's a known issue. Specifically the aft CFT stations I think. Wanting to know what´s wrong with the GBU-38 I did set up a little test mission. Airstart, Level release in Auto at 500TAS/ 22000 ft: GBU-12 released @ 4.5nm from the Target - hit Mk-82 released @ 4.8nm from the Target - hit GBU-38 got me an "IN RANGE" cue @ 13.5nm!, but why? After all it´s just a Mk-82 with a guidance kit and some tiny strakes. Can these generate so much lift that you get 3 times the range of a GBU-12? I have no idea about the correct RL numbers but this kind of improvement does not seem right. Now, releasing the bombs at a range that makes more sense to me - 6nm - and lo and behold, all bombs did hit their target. Clearly the JDAMs need some refinements, but they do work . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloppyDog Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 4 hours ago, WizzRD said: This video has such a beautiful cover that at first glance I thought it was an official Boeing video. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 11 hours ago, WizzRD said: Yes and No I´d say. LGBs do land long if tossed, level release works just fine. Wanting to know what´s wrong with the GBU-38 I did set up a little test mission. Airstart, Level release in Auto at 500TAS/ 22000 ft: GBU-12 released @ 4.5nm from the Target - hit Mk-82 released @ 4.8nm from the Target - hit GBU-38 got me an "IN RANGE" cue @ 13.5nm!, but why? After all it´s just a Mk-82 with a guidance kit and some tiny strakes. Can these generate so much lift that you get 3 times the range of a GBU-12? I have no idea about the correct RL numbers but this kind of improvement does not seem right. Now, releasing the bombs at a range that makes more sense to me - 6nm - and lo and behold, all bombs did hit their target. Clearly the JDAMs need some refinements, but they do work . GBUs have quite a bit more range IRL than their slick counterparts. Beyond that, yes, a lot of issues are being made bigger than they are due to everyone wanting to release at the edge of the envelope vs waiting for the ‘in zone’ cue which allows for the additional maneuvering. The aft stations exhibit some additional problems vs the others, but again, can be mitigated by not trying to send them at max ranges. Convincing people to do it is another story though. As far as dumb weapons are concerned, can be lots of things. Can also be improper designations, lack of proper use of AGR ranging, etc which falls on the user. Just saying they fall long or short is almost like saying nothing at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaylw314 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 On 4/25/2024 at 7:37 AM, WizzRD said: Yes and No I´d say. LGBs do land long if tossed, level release works just fine. Wanting to know what´s wrong with the GBU-38 I did set up a little test mission. Airstart, Level release in Auto at 500TAS/ 22000 ft: GBU-12 released @ 4.5nm from the Target - hit Mk-82 released @ 4.8nm from the Target - hit GBU-38 got me an "IN RANGE" cue @ 13.5nm!, but why? After all it´s just a Mk-82 with a guidance kit and some tiny strakes. Can these generate so much lift that you get 3 times the range of a GBU-12? I have no idea about the correct RL numbers but this kind of improvement does not seem right. Now, releasing the bombs at a range that makes more sense to me - 6nm - and lo and behold, all bombs did hit their target. Clearly the JDAMs need some refinements, but they do work . Typical airliner - 20:1 glide ratio Typical single-engine prop - 9:1 glide ratio Typical wingsuit maniac - 3:1 glide ratio JDAM - 4:1 glide ratio?? That does seem a bit optimistic, but it is from a fast starting speed, and I'm guessing there's not a lot of specific data out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon1-1 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 Remember that a JDAM is smart (not like an LGB, unless it's a Paveway III), and it starts out going fast. Those starkes do produce plenty of lift at high speeds. Since it's fairly low drag, it doesn't lose much speed as it flies, meaning it could, possibly, out-glide a wingsuit (which are typically rather lousy gliders and don't go very fast). However, accuracy will be degraded at the edge of the envelope. A gust of wind in the wrong direction could put it out of parameters, not to mention the parameters are never exact, anyway. Perhaps the zone could use a little tuning. Either way, it's always good to give the bombs some extra energy to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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