Silver_Dragon Posted October 26, 2023 Posted October 26, 2023 (edited) Actual B-52H maintain the old loadout of your old 3D models. I think has not take note about actual versions. I suppouse has a post 1993 version, no a 61/Vietnam versions. Other point has the missing of Hound Dog hardpoints with I-Beam and Conventional Rotary Launcher. About weapons, menwhile has none plans to build nuclear ordnance, the actual missing of great quantity of conventional, guided weapons, and other special mission weapons as mines (pending implement by ED). About weapons configurations, check bellow. From "Americas Aircrafts". B-52H Stratofortress (1993) Bomber Man Rtng: 0.5/0.5 Damage Value: 105 Size/Signature: Large/Large Bombsight: Computing Counterm: 3rd Gen J&D Inflight Refuel: B Sensors: APQ-166, 1st Gen IRST/FLIR Throttle Setting/Speed in knots Altitude Cruise Full Mil Reheat Low: 310 560 -- Med: 453 547 -- High: 442 526 -- Ceiling: 14500 m Engine Type: TF Cruise Range: 7175 nmi Int Fuel: 147135 kg Ordnance Loadouts: Payload: 22680 kg Can carry targeting pods in all loadouts: Litening II (Feb 03) or Litening AT (Aug 04) or AAQ-33 Sniper (Mid 2010). 2 B53-1 nuclear bombs (all) 28 CBU-87 or 26 CBU-89 bombs (all) 12 Mk52 or 8 Mk41 DST or 8 Mk55 or 8 Mk56 or 8 Mk60 or 51 Mk62 or 8 Mk64 or 8 Mk65 mines (all) 1 GBU-57 MOP (late 2010?) Hound Dog hardpoints with I-Beam, with either: 51 M117 or Mk82 (27 internal, 24 external) 51 CBU-58 or CBU-71 (27 internal, 24 external) 30 CBU-87 or CBU-89 (6 internal, 24 external) 51 Mk36/59/62 mines (27 internal, 24 external) Heavy Stores Adapter Beam (HSAB) hardpoints, with either: 45 M117 or 43 Mk82 (27 internal, 18 external) 18 Mk84 (8 internal, 10 external) 18 Mk41 DST or 30 Mk52 or 20 Mk55 or 16 Mk56 or 18 Mk60 or 18 Mk63 or 18 Mk64 or 18 Mk65 mines 45 CBU-58 or CBU-71 (27 internal, 18 external) -retired by 2013 12 GBU-10 or GBU-12 Paveway II external, 27 Mk82 internal 8 AGM-84 Harpoon IC (Sep 94 - 2004) 3 AGM-142, ASW-55 guidance pod (May 94 - 2005) 12 AGM-158A JASSM (Oct 03) 12 GBU-31 external, 27 Mk82 internal (Dec 00) 16 CBU-103/104/105 WCMD external, 27 Mk82 internal (late 01) 12 GBU-38 external, 27 Mk82 internal (by 2007) 12 GBU-54 external, 27 Mk82 internal (2011?) 12 ADM-160 MALD (Jul 12) 12 AGM-158B JASSM (2018?) Air Launched Cruise Missile hp (ALCM, 1982), and either: 12 AGM-86B/C/D (1982) 12 AGM-86C (Jan 88) or AGM-86C Block IA (Feb 01) 12 AGM-86D (2001) 12 external AGM-129A (retired 2008) Common Strategic Rotary Launcher (CSRL, 1988), and either: 8 B61 nuclear bombs 8 B83 nuclear bombs (until 1997) 8 B61-11 nuclear bombs (1997) 20 AGM-86B/C/D (8 internal, 12 external) 8 internal AGM-86B, 12 external AGM-129A Conventional Rotary Launcher (CRL, May 2016), and either: 20 GBU-31 JDAM (8 internal, 12 external) 24 GBU-38 or GBU-54 (12 internal, 12 external) 16 AGM-158A/B (4 internal, 12 external) - Jun 17 20 AGM-158A/B (8 internal, 12 external) - Jul 19 20 ADM-160 MALD or MALD-J (8 internal, 12 external) - Jul 19 Remarks: In Svc: 1993 (1961) Estimated all active squadrons use CEM, reserve units conventional weapons only. Internal fuel includes two 1400 USG external tanks (cannot be jettisoned). Not fitted with optical bombsight, must use B/N radar. Jun 93: Conventional role. Stats above reflect this role - 80 have CSRL mods and 14 ALCM only. May 94: Four fitted for AGM-84 Harpoon (96th BS, Barksdale) - operational Sep 94, first live firing Jul 96; four fitted for AGM-142A (20th BS). Aug 94-00: 48 CSRL aircraft undergo CEM upgrade with provision for guided and heavier weapons using HSAB pylons (can still carry CSRL loadouts). ~19 CEM fitted for Harpoon and 12 for AGM-142. Can carry 3 vice 1 AGM-142. Estimated Hound Dog hardpoints with I-Beam retired at this time. 1997: All fitted with provision for Harpoon msls. Feb 03: 12 fitted for Litening targeting pods on unused wing hp (add to any loadout above), although only six pods available. 2004: Laser-guided bombs trialled against ship targets. 2010: No longer carry nuclear bombs. Capability removed 2016. 2013: No longer conduct TA flights. 2017: 31 of 75 converted to conventional only roles (New START). Mid 2021: Fitted with Link 16 data link. Planned to be fitted with AGM-183 missile (2025), new engines, 6th generation radar to replace APQ-166 (2026). Edited February 8 by Silver_Dragon 3 1 For Work/Gaming: 28" Philips 246E Monitor - Ryzen 7 1800X - 32 GB DDR4 - nVidia RTX1080 - SSD 860 EVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 2 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Warthog / TPR / MDF
GunnerFlyboy Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 Former crewmember here, would like to see at least the loadout expanded on the AI model. 2
Silver_Dragon Posted November 9, 2023 Author Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) For more info, added Pre-1993 version: B-52H Stratofortress Bomber Man Rtng: 0.5/0.5 Damage Value: 105 Size/Signature: Large/Large Bombsight: Ballistic Counterm: 1st Gen J&D Inflight Refuel: B Sensors: APS-81 B/N radar, Gen 0 RWR Throttle Setting/Speed in knots Altitude Cruise Full Mil Reheat Low: 400 470 -- Med: 460 550 -- High: 460 520 -- Ceiling: 14540 m Engine Type: TF Cruise Range: 8440 nmi Int Fuel: 147135 kg Ordnance Loadouts: Payload: 22680 kg Def Guns: M61A1 Vulcan 20mm, ASG-21 FC (1.9) 27 M117 or Mk82 bombs internally 2 Mk15/B36/B39/B41/B53 nuclear bombs 4 B28/B57/B61/B83 nuclear bombs 4 B28 nuclear bombs, 4 ADM-20A Quail (1960 - 78) 4 ADM-20 Quail internally, 2 AGM-28 Hound Dog or 12 AGM-69A SRAM externally 20 AGM-69A SRAM (8 internal, 12 external) Air Launched Cruise Missile hp (ALCM, 1982), and either: 12 AGM-86B, 8 AGM-69A 12 AGM-86C (Jan 88) 12 AGM-86D (?) 12 external AGM-129A (1991) Hound Dog hardpoints with I-Beam (SPF), with either: 51 M117 or 51 M117R 51 Mk36 DST or Mk59 DST mines Common Strategic Rotary Launcher (CSRL, 1988), and either: 4 B28 or 8 B61 or 8 B83 nuclear bombs 20 AGM-86B/C/D (8 internal, 12 external) 8 internal AGM-86B, 12 external AGM-129A (1991) Remarks: In Svc: Mar 61 102 built with TF33 TF engines, as replacement for canceled B-70. Fitted with UW2 for ALE-25 chaff pods, each with 20 ADR-25 2.5” chaff rockets. Did not employ conventional weapons until the 1990s. Not fitted with optical bombsight, must use B/N radar. 1966 - 71: Two carried D-21 recon drone vice Hound Dog (Senior Bowl). 1972 - 76: Fitted with EVS (see B-52G). 1972 - 76: Rivet Ace ECM to 2nd Gen J&D, 2nd Gen ES, 1st Gen RWR, ALQ-153 tail warning radar. 1980 - 85: Two wings at Minot AFB operate as part of Strategic Projection Force (SPF) in conventional role. Role then passed to B-52G with HSAB. 1981 - 86: Fitted with ASQ-176 vice ASQ-38 (Computing Bombsight). 1982 - 90: 96 fitted with external ALCM, payload raised to 28500 kg. 1987 - 90: Fitted with APQ-166 vice APS-81 radar with SAR mode. 1988: 82 fitted with rotary launcher (CSRL), cannot carry mixed loads. 3rd Gen J&D countermeasures. Oct 91: Guns no longer used. Removed by 1994. Edited February 8 by Silver_Dragon For Work/Gaming: 28" Philips 246E Monitor - Ryzen 7 1800X - 32 GB DDR4 - nVidia RTX1080 - SSD 860 EVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 2 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Warthog / TPR / MDF
Northstar98 Posted January 21 Posted January 21 As an addendum to this, the newest model depicts the pylon on the right wing for LITENING/Sniper targeting pods. This was first operational in 2003 [1], [2], [3] meaning our B-52H is most likely a late 2003 aircraft, considering we also have Harpoon (albeit wrong variant and wrong quantity). This also means it would fit fairly nicely with many of ED's teen-series modules like the F-16, F/A-18C and in the future the F-15C and is perfect for Iraq War missions. This means that weapons of the conventional enhancement modification program (circa 1994-) are applicable and given that we have Harpoon, we also have a Harpoon Mod aircraft. We have the HSAB, so the CEM program applies. The AGM-142A Raptor/Have Nap and its associated AN/MSW-55 data link pod was the first on the list for the CEM program, from circa 1994. [4], [5], [6] The JDAM (GBU-31(V)1/B and (V)3/B) reached IOC on B-52H circa Dec 1998 [7] and WCMD reached IOC on the B-52H in 2000 [8], the AGM-158A JASSM also reached IOC in 2003 [9] meaning it is accurate as well. Therefore, the following weapons are accurate: AGM-84D-1 Harpoon Block IC (×8) - note we have 12 AGM-84A. TO 1B-52H-34-2-2 states that only 4 can be carried on each HSAB (3 occupying the forward-most stations and 1 on the rear-centre station). AGM-142A Raptor/Have Nap (×3) and its associated AN/MSW-55 data link pod. AGM-158A JASSM (×12 externally) AN/AAQ-28(V)1/2 LITENING II CBU-52 (27 internally + 18 externally on HSAB) CBU-58 (27 internally + 18 externally on HSAB) CBU-71 (27 internally + 18 externally on HSAB) CBU-87/B CEM (unsure on quantity) CBU-89/B GATOR (unsure on quantity) CBU-97/B SFW (unsure on quantity) CBU-103/B WCMD (16/18? externally on HSAB) CBU-104/B WCMD? (16/18? externally on HSAB) CBU-105/B WCMD (16/18? externally on HSAB) GBU-10x/B Paveway II (at least 8 externally on HSAB) GBU-12x/B Paveway II (12 externally on HSAB) GBU-31(V)1/B JDAM (12 externally on HSAB) GBU-31(V)3/B JDAM (12 externally on HSAB) M117 (×27 internally + 18 externally on HSAB) https://www.raf-fairford.co.uk/operation-iraqi-freedom/ https://www.airandspaceforces.com/article/1103bombers/ https://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_bombers/b52_17.html https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2003/04/mil-030415-rafael01.htm http://www.airvectors.net/avb52_3.html http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-142.html http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/app5/jdam.html https://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/app5/wcmd.html https://investors.lockheedmartin.com/news-releases/news-release-details/lockheed-martins-jassm-certified-ready-operational-use-stealthy https://www.airandspaceforces.com/PDF/MagazineArchive/Magazine Documents/2003/May 2003/0503weapons.pdf 1 1 Modules I own: F-14A/B, F-4E, Mi-24P, AJS 37, AV-8B N/A, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070S FE, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro.
Flappie Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Thank you, gents. There's an ongoing task to add loadouts to the B-52H. I added this thread to the internal request. 1 ---
Northstar98 Posted February 8 Posted February 8 2 hours ago, Flappie said: Thank you, gents. There's an ongoing task to add loadouts to the B-52H. I added this thread to the internal request. Cheers Flappie, could I make a similar request for the S-3B? It's a bit odd given that we have 2 versions and some weapons should technically only apply to the tanker version (IRL both should be capable of tanking, but we don't have buddy stores - it's a bit awkward), however nearly all of the stores that DCS supports are already present. See this post for details: Modules I own: F-14A/B, F-4E, Mi-24P, AJS 37, AV-8B N/A, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070S FE, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro.
Northstar98 Posted March 19 Posted March 19 Unfortunately, despite this being in today's changelog: Quote AI aircraft. B-52 loadout and onboard sensor changes. Added TGP section in loadout with Litening option for TGP. Added more currently available in DCS world laser bombs in loadout. (B-52 loadout missing or not propper modeled. - Aircraft AI Bugs (Non-Combined Arms) - ED Forums) The B-52's available stores are unchanged (ran full repair, tested w/ historical mode on and off). 2 Modules I own: F-14A/B, F-4E, Mi-24P, AJS 37, AV-8B N/A, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070S FE, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro.
ED Team NineLine Posted March 20 ED Team Posted March 20 No, it was not merged, but should be in the next release along with the updates to B-1B loadouts. Sorry guys. 2 1 Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Northstar98 Posted March 20 Posted March 20 4 hours ago, NineLine said: No, it was not merged, but should be in the next release along with the updates to B-1B loadouts. Sorry guys. No worries. But can the same update also apply to the S-3B? 1 Modules I own: F-14A/B, F-4E, Mi-24P, AJS 37, AV-8B N/A, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070S FE, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro.
Marauder.exe Posted April 18 Posted April 18 @NineLine As of the latest patch (2.9.15.9408) these changes have still not been merged to the release client. Is there any update on these changes? 1
Scoop Posted April 18 Posted April 18 For anyone like me who was eagerly awaiting the latest patch update with new bomb loadouts for the Buff, but found it missing from the changelog, here is one I have been using for a while now and improving as I find out more information on bomb types (as detailed a few posts above), configurations, bay quantities and release arrangements. Its still WIP as the LJDAM wont drop as there is no targeting pod at the moment, but are good for static ground eye candy. Everything else works as it should with the corrections to the Harpoon etc. I've included a test mission to demonstrate some bombing capabilities. Unzip the file and place the miz file is saved games missions, and the other files where directed in the core game. Don't forget to rename the two original DCS files. Have fun watching them bomb in the test mission before making your own bomb runs. In the meantime hopefully ED's update won't be to much longer..... B-52H Bomb Loadouts.zip 1 Asus Dark Hero X570, AMD 5800x3D, RTX 4090 Reference, All on Custom Water Loop, 3600 CL15 XMP, 4xCrucial P5P 2T M2+SSD's, Hotas Warthog, Reverb G2, Latest DCS MT and VR only A10CII and AH64D, Nevada, Persian Gulf, Syria, Marianas, Caucasus, Afghanistan
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