MICRO STUTTERING DCS 2.9

[lovethewayoumove]

hace 14 horas, TOViper dijo:

 

 

Virtual memory (I am using my M2 drive, since its VERY fast):

 

Thanks sir!!

[silverdevil]

On 1/1/2024 at 5:42 PM, TOViper said:

wow. i never knew this. but i do not have any issues with my system. doesn't the power scheme settings already do this? mine is ultimate. but this is just for graphics. ncp has a setting too.

[clafly]

I haven’t microstuttering anymore.

My spec:

 

msi x670e carbon

amd ryzen 9 7950×3d

gskill 32×2 6000mhz DDR5

msi GeForce ventus 12gb

SO win 11 pro ssd nvme 500gb Pcie 5

DCS  OB ssd nvme 1TB Pcie 5

Edited January 5, 2024 by clafly

[lovethewayoumove]

hace 11 horas, clafly dijo:

 

I haven’t microstuttering anymore.

My spec:

 

msi x670e carbon

amd ryzen 9 7950×3d

gskill 32×2 6000mhz DDR5

msi GeForce ventus 12gb

SO win 11 pro ssd nvme 500gb

DCS  ssd nvme 1TB

Ok, and that's thanks to, do you think?

Thanks for sharing

Me still small in and out stutterings, very much fewer than previous of SO fixing but still very random for me. Still making tests with DCS settings trying to understand. For now for me it seems that DLSS is on of the majors issues worsening the stuttering.

Edited January 4, 2024 by lovethewayoumove

[clafly]

11 ore fa, lovethewayoumove ha scritto:

Ok, and that's thanks to, do you think?

Thanks for sharing

Me still small in and out stutterings, very much fewer than previous of SO fixing but still very random for me. Still making tests with DCS settings trying to understand. For now for me it seems that DLSS is on of the majors issues worsening the stuttering.

 

My system options.
With this I’ve not stuttering. From the NVIDIA panel I’ve everything deactivated or controller by application. 

DCS affinity for all cpu.

And cpu performance always at 100%

I’ve limit fps at 60.

No vsync 

MSI Bios in “game mode” 

[clafly]

If I lower the limit from 60, the stuttering reappers.

If I increase above 60, it reappers little  

 

[lovethewayoumove]

En 5/1/2024 a las 11:46, clafly dijo:

My system options.
With this I’ve not stuttering. From the NVIDIA panel I’ve everything deactivated or controller by application. 

DCS affinity for all cpu.

And cpu performance always at 100%

I’ve limit fps at 60.

No vsync 

MSI Bios in “game mode” 

Ok Thank you. I'l,l try it

En 5/1/2024 a las 11:55, clafly dijo:

If I lower the limit from 60, the stuttering reappers.

If I increase above 60, it reappers little  

 

It's super strange, and completly random how to someone something could be affecting and to others not.

Le'ts hope ED will find a solution soon.

For me still random few stutters, much more pronunciated when flying above complex terrains (nevada, sinai etc etc) 

[Tranzit]

16 hours ago, lovethewayoumove said:

Ok Thank you. I'l,l try it

It's super strange, and completly random how to someone something could be affecting and to others not.

Le'ts hope ED will find a solution soon.

For me still random few stutters, much more pronunciated when flying above complex terrains (nevada, sinai etc etc) 

Did you try the solution that worked for me?

Device  Manager | Software devices | Microsoft Device Association Root Enumerator (Right-click and Disable). This driver is only needed for really old hardware and can be re-enabled at any time.

[lovethewayoumove]

hace 8 horas, Tranzit dijo:

Did you try the solution that worked for me?

Device  Manager | Software devices | Microsoft Device Association Root Enumerator (Right-click and Disable). This driver is only needed for really old hardware and can be re-enabled at any time.

Yes I've also disabled the Microsoft Device Association Root, but I can't really tell you if it has helped or not. For now is disabled. Anyway thanks a lot for the tip.

To @BIGNEWY for me what it seems to make a really difference on having a serious continous patter of sttutering and just only having few and randowms stutters is:

1) the last nvidia drivers 546.33 versus an older one as the current that I've have installed right now 536.67

2) DLSS on or OFF.

All other tips, tricks, settings etc etc seems to has minor impacts and no change at all regarding stutter with my specs.

Could you please tell us how is the situation at ED about this stuttering as it is affecting so many users?

[truebrit]

On 1/9/2024 at 5:58 AM, Tranzit said:

Did you try the solution that worked for me?

Device  Manager | Software devices | Microsoft Device Association Root Enumerator (Right-click and Disable). This driver is only needed for really old hardware and can be re-enabled at any time.

After many months of trying every other fix out there this worked for me, Thanks for taking the time to post this.

[lovethewayoumove]

Hi to everybody, long time without posting.

Let me update a bit in order to try to help others. After a lot of time of testing and testing, I’ve quite happy of how DCS is running now, not still perfect, but almost playable. But caution I’m mainly single player user and I don’t know how should be working on MP busy environments with several units. Probably much worst.

I’ve finally got a let’s say almost stable FPS and frame rate lines, putting all the possible settings on DCS to its maximum quality allowable. I was almost sure that my problem was related with a CPU bottleneck, and with my settings previous tested both on NCP and DCS trying to get as much FPS as possible I’ve realized that my GPU was sending too much FPS to my CPU that was unable to process. At least is what my poor knowledge understand.

Putting all the settings to high quality on NCP and on DCS, makes happy the GPU working to it’s 100% not stressing so much my CPU. I’ve got stables in between 40 to 90 FPS depending on the loaded scenario, depending on the airplane flown, and much more noticeable now, depending on how much closer of terrain I am. But I say again, with quite stable lines of FPS and frame rates. Only random spikes/drops on FPS when maneuvering fast or when moving my TRACKIR abruptly, even when using the mouse.

What seems to make a big difference for me is also NVIDIA drivers. All the newest released versions tested had horrible performance for me, rather than the 536.36 which seems the one that likes so much to my specs.

After all this tests, I haven’t realized about any relationship of having unofficial mods installed or not. Just to let them know to all of them that suggests to uninstall as a first option to try to solve it.
Regarding my 11th gen CPU, any change or setting on CPU cores affinity seems to have any impact or relationship to improve/worsen the problem. 

Well I hope that at least someone else could take benefit of my reflexions and I’m quite sure that upgrading my CPU, to one of the latest versions will help quite a lot, but this means upgrading MB and RAM as well and for instance my PC box. So a new PC. Let’s wait a bit and meanwhile this will works for the purpose I want and use DCS.

please @BIGNEWY take note just to try help others and again thanks for the support.

safe flights to everybody

 

 

 

 

[BIGNEWY]

10 minutes ago, lovethewayoumove said:

Hi to everybody, long time without posting.

Let me update a bit in order to try to help others. After a lot of time of testing and testing, I’ve quite happy of how DCS is running now, not still perfect, but almost playable. But caution I’m mainly single player user and I don’t know how should be working on MP busy environments with several units. Probably much worst.

I’ve finally got a let’s say almost stable FPS and frame rate lines, putting all the possible settings on DCS to its maximum quality allowable. I was almost sure that my problem was related with a CPU bottleneck, and with my settings previous tested both on NCP and DCS trying to get as much FPS as possible I’ve realized that my GPU was sending too much FPS to my CPU that was unable to process. At least is what my poor knowledge understand.

Putting all the settings to high quality on NCP and on DCS, makes happy the GPU working to it’s 100% not stressing so much my CPU. I’ve got stables in between 40 to 90 FPS depending on the loaded scenario, depending on the airplane flown, and much more noticeable now, depending on how much closer of terrain I am. But I say again, with quite stable lines of FPS and frame rates. Only random spikes/drops on FPS when maneuvering fast or when moving my TRACKIR abruptly, even when using the mouse.

What seems to make a big difference for me is also NVIDIA drivers. All the newest released versions tested had horrible performance for me, rather than the 536.36 which seems the one that likes so much to my specs.

After all this tests, I haven’t realized about any relationship of having unofficial mods installed or not. Just to let them know to all of them that suggests to uninstall as a first option to try to solve it.
Regarding my 11th gen CPU, any change or setting on CPU cores affinity seems to have any impact or relationship to improve/worsen the problem. 

Well I hope that at least someone else could take benefit of my reflexions and I’m quite sure that upgrading my CPU, to one of the latest versions will help quite a lot, but this means upgrading MB and RAM as well and for instance my PC box. So a new PC. Let’s wait a bit and meanwhile this will works for the purpose I want and use DCS.

please @BIGNEWY take note just to try help others and again thanks for the support.

safe flights to everybody

 

 

 

 

Thank you for the feedback I am sure it will help others, diagnosing performance issues can be frustrating sometimes so just giving people ideas of what to try next is always helpful. 

best regards

bignewy

[Igor4U]

Bada Bing - Bada Boom:  No more Stuttering in 2.9 - FIXED !

Have an Older Machine (refurbing as a Gift to an Intrepid Young Aspiring Fighter Pilot all of 13 years old) that was Top-of-the-Line some 10 Years Ago (Haswell 4790K Devil's Canyon, Gen9 Big Maxwell Titan-X, 32 GB RAM) still running DCSW at 80-100 fps (@ 2560x1440) but started stuttering badly with release of 2.9.

Have followed a Dozen Possible Leads to No Avail - until I hit on Turning On Hyper-Threading (Thanks to the Gentleman's Posts below).   Back in the Day, primarily Single-Threaded Flight Sims recommended turning Hyper-Threading OFF to improve Performance.    That's where my BIOS setting Stayed Since Then (HT OFF),   But reading the Advice Below - Turned HT Back On and Bada Bing - Bada Boom !    Now Smooth as Silk - Most Excellent !

This Malady (Stuttering) seemed fairly widespread with release of 2.9 - I'm surprised that Eagle Dynamics didn't release an Advisory Note on that (Stuttering) when 2.9 got Pushed Out - I guess HT-On is the Current Standard, and they (didn't anticipate) failed to Test and Identify that Problem - so we was on our Own by Trial & Error.

And I can't figure Out why there'd be stuttering when the Frames are cranking out at 80-100 fps ??    Somebody lot smarter than 'Moi' Knows - but they aint Saying !

But Pretty Happy the Stutters are Gone   !

TANKs for the Idea - Reference where Credit is Due:

By Mateo
October 27, 2023 in Game Performance Bugs
2.9 (after update )massive stuttering/image freeze for 1-3 sec all time even at LOW settings
https://forum.dcs.world/topic/336422-29-after-update-massive-stutteringimage-freeze-for-1-3-sec-all-time-even-at-low-settings/

I have noticed improvement when I set my hyperthread in BIOS to enable. It is strange for me, usually hyperthread make things worse, but now during simple test I have notice improvement that is worth for ED to pay attention. It shows that my stuttering is probably CPU related. During my test one of core go to nearly 100% usage. I disabled that core and re-enabled during the gameplay, in effect stutters were gone again, and CPU usage was average on all cores.

If some of you have the ability to hyperthred your CPU, it might be worth a try.

 

BUT - This Feller Improved (In VR) when HT was Turned OFF - Go Figure ???????????

By fab.13
March 13, 2023 in VR Bugs
Disable HyperThreading reduce stutter a lot, give a try.
https://forum.dcs.world/topic/321514-mt-version-disable-hyperthreading-reduce-stutter-a-lot-give-a-try/

Edited March 18, 2024 by Igor4U
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[lovethewayoumove]

Hey, super you found a solution!!!

Unfortunately for me, turning off HT worsen my stuttering, so I let turned ON.

Could I ask you your specs in order to try to compare and understand a little bit?

I'm pretty sure my problem is related with bottleneck on the CPU.

 

En 18/3/2024 a las 21:36, Igor4U dijo:

Bada Bing - Bada Boom:  No more Stuttering in 2.9 - FIXED !

Have an Older Machine (refurbing as a Gift to an Intrepid Young Aspiring Fighter Pilot all of 13 years old) that was Top-of-the-Line some 10 Years Ago (Haswell 4790K Devil's Canyon, Gen9 Big Maxwell Titan-X, 32 GB RAM) still running DCSW at 80-100 fps (@ 2560x1440) but started stuttering badly with release of 2.9.

Have followed a Dozen Possible Leads to No Avail - until I hit on Turning On Hyper-Threading (Thanks to the Gentleman's Posts below).   Back in the Day, primarily Single-Threaded Flight Sims recommended turning Hyper-Threading OFF to improve Performance.    That's where my BIOS setting Stayed Since Then (HT OFF),   But reading the Advice Below - Turned HT Back On and Bada Bing - Bada Boom !    Now Smooth as Silk - Most Excellent !

This Malady (Stuttering) seemed fairly widespread with release of 2.9 - I'm surprised that Eagle Dynamics didn't release an Advisory Note on that (Stuttering) when 2.9 got Pushed Out - I guess HT-On is the Current Standard, and they (didn't anticipate) failed to Test and Identify that Problem - so we was on our Own by Trial & Error.

And I can't figure Out why there'd be stuttering when the Frames are cranking out at 80-100 fps ??    Somebody lot smarter than 'Moi' Knows - but they aint Saying !

But Pretty Happy the Stutters are Gone   !

TANKs for the Idea - Reference where Credit is Due:

By Mateo
October 27, 2023 in Game Performance Bugs
2.9 (after update )massive stuttering/image freeze for 1-3 sec all time even at LOW settings
https://forum.dcs.world/topic/336422-29-after-update-massive-stutteringimage-freeze-for-1-3-sec-all-time-even-at-low-settings/

I have noticed improvement when I set my hyperthread in BIOS to enable. It is strange for me, usually hyperthread make things worse, but now during simple test I have notice improvement that is worth for ED to pay attention. It shows that my stuttering is probably CPU related. During my test one of core go to nearly 100% usage. I disabled that core and re-enabled during the gameplay, in effect stutters were gone again, and CPU usage was average on all cores.

If some of you have the ability to hyperthred your CPU, it might be worth a try.

 

BUT - This Feller Improved (In VR) when HT was Turned OFF - Go Figure ???????????

By fab.13
March 13, 2023 in VR Bugs
Disable HyperThreading reduce stutter a lot, give a try.
https://forum.dcs.world/topic/321514-mt-version-disable-hyperthreading-reduce-stutter-a-lot-give-a-try/

 

 

Edited March 21, 2024 by lovethewayoumove

[fab.13]

Hello,

True,
I had to disable HT in the first release of MT in 2023
"give a try " was intended for player that met stutters at this time to test that option ( i was not alone ... ), not a recommandation.

From few release after summer,
i remade some test with a bench track and it was better with HT ON ( but with no shadow )

Now with the last release delivered in Feb 2024,
DCS is very smooth and i could have increment resolution in VR in my quest 2 ( x1.3 ) : great !
 

On 3/18/2024 at 9:36 PM, Igor4U said:

Bada Bing - Bada Boom:  No more Stuttering in 2.9 - FIXED !

Have an Older Machine (refurbing as a Gift to an Intrepid Young Aspiring Fighter Pilot all of 13 years old) that was Top-of-the-Line some 10 Years Ago (Haswell 4790K Devil's Canyon, Gen9 Big Maxwell Titan-X, 32 GB RAM) still running DCSW at 80-100 fps (@ 2560x1440) but started stuttering badly with release of 2.9.

Have followed a Dozen Possible Leads to No Avail - until I hit on Turning On Hyper-Threading (Thanks to the Gentleman's Posts below).   Back in the Day, primarily Single-Threaded Flight Sims recommended turning Hyper-Threading OFF to improve Performance.    That's where my BIOS setting Stayed Since Then (HT OFF),   But reading the Advice Below - Turned HT Back On and Bada Bing - Bada Boom !    Now Smooth as Silk - Most Excellent !

This Malady (Stuttering) seemed fairly widespread with release of 2.9 - I'm surprised that Eagle Dynamics didn't release an Advisory Note on that (Stuttering) when 2.9 got Pushed Out - I guess HT-On is the Current Standard, and they (didn't anticipate) failed to Test and Identify that Problem - so we was on our Own by Trial & Error.

And I can't figure Out why there'd be stuttering when the Frames are cranking out at 80-100 fps ??    Somebody lot smarter than 'Moi' Knows - but they aint Saying !

But Pretty Happy the Stutters are Gone   !

TANKs for the Idea - Reference where Credit is Due:

By Mateo
October 27, 2023 in Game Performance Bugs
2.9 (after update )massive stuttering/image freeze for 1-3 sec all time even at LOW settings
https://forum.dcs.world/topic/336422-29-after-update-massive-stutteringimage-freeze-for-1-3-sec-all-time-even-at-low-settings/

I have noticed improvement when I set my hyperthread in BIOS to enable. It is strange for me, usually hyperthread make things worse, but now during simple test I have notice improvement that is worth for ED to pay attention. It shows that my stuttering is probably CPU related. During my test one of core go to nearly 100% usage. I disabled that core and re-enabled during the gameplay, in effect stutters were gone again, and CPU usage was average on all cores.

If some of you have the ability to hyperthred your CPU, it might be worth a try.

 

BUT - This Feller Improved (In VR) when HT was Turned OFF - Go Figure ???????????

By fab.13
March 13, 2023 in VR Bugs
Disable HyperThreading reduce stutter a lot, give a try.
https://forum.dcs.world/topic/321514-mt-version-disable-hyperthreading-reduce-stutter-a-lot-give-a-try/

 

 

[rylabics]

Hi

Thanks to @lovethewayoumove and all the people that posted here.

I have a similar problem with stuttering DCS and I followed the indications but unfortunatelly did not help.

In my case the problem was an interference with another software (I am still investigating which one it was) running under windows. I closed all not necessary software (on the bottom right of windows11) and finally I could fly without stuttering. I hope it helps you too!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 9, 2024 by rylabics

[lovethewayoumove]

En 9/5/2024 a las 22:10, rylabics dijo:

Hi

Thanks to @lovethewayoumove and all the people that posted here.

I have a similar problem with stuttering DCS and I followed the indications but unfortunatelly did not help.

In my case the problem was an interference with another software (I am still investigating which one it was) running under windows. I closed all not necessary software (on the bottom right of windows11) and finally I could fly without stuttering. I hope it helps you too!

 

 

 

Hi, thanks also to you for sharing, 

Have you still not yet identified which program was then? 

 

 

 

 

 

[lovethewayoumove]

Hi to all again, 

Let me update my situation in order to see if someone else could shed light and give more ideas in order to try to fix it definitely or at least try to improve a little bit more my situation.

Find attached my settings on DCS as well as in NCP and DXDIAG and DCS.LOG and a small video of how is running right now and the usage of my system while DCS is running.

I've got a stable FPS line and Frame Time line but as you can see on the video, It's showing some spikes/sutters from time to time, specially when you face or point to the terrain with the airplane and wen you look sidewars wheater with the trackir or with the cockpit views. If you flight straight and level the line is pretty flat and stable with some randm spikes. Also the stutters appears when you apply sudden control on the joystick. This could be related with the rfresh rate of GPU and monitors?

I think I've tried all the possible solutions and ideas thrown on the forums and on intermet about how to try to solve the stutters on 2.9.

Let me resume a little bit all the possible settings and solutions tryed and how it was now setted up on my system.

·Hyperthreading ON or OFF: currently is ON, with OFF found worst beahaviour and worst stutters. No difference at all neither on using intel turbo boost technology or not. Just time to load DCS.

·HAGS: Left On. On OFF selection stutters worsen.

·Windows game mode: is ON. On OFF selection stutters worsen.

·All the possible programs related to DCS are selected as exclusions from windows security as suggested several times. (DCS, trackir, saved games, voiceattack, afterburner, nvidia, thrustmaster, absolutely everithing)

·Processlasso: No difference on using it or not using.

·RBAR: enabled throug Nvidia profile inspector.

·MSI util V3: interrupt priority of GPU set to HIGH, no changes at all.

·NCP: all possible combinations tested founding those ones on the attached screenshot the best with more stable lines.

·Core affinity: No change at all, deselecting core 0, core 8, half of the cores and then the otehr half and returning to 100% of the cores. NO change at all with any combination. Strange (should be related with 11th gen CPU maybe, I don't know)

·Energy plan: No change at all, disabling on or off the Energy service. Currently is ON and with max performance selected.

·I've changed RAM from XMP1 and XMP2 and no change at all, now currently setted XMP off with the memory try it setted up to 3600 Mhz to CL18.

·MSI afterburner: No change at all leaving on default stock cores frequencies rather than OC to a higher (tested and stable) settings. For now left it overclocked.

·No difference at all between having unofficial mods installed or not. For now few of them left installed.

·Clean and fresh installation of DCS. No changes same stutter.

·Clean and fresh installation of OS. No changes, same stutter.

·Trackir: up to date and no difference at all using or not using.

· Attached MT lua file suggested by BIGNEWY is currently attached on the Saved Files folder. No change at all, left it attached for now.

·And last and for me most significant and strange affecting thing. NVIDIA driver: I've tried all possible combinations of GPU lastest releases of drivers with no improvements at all. The driver that seems to like more to my system and sepcs are the 536.67 version, which strangely is one of the latest provided for an GTX 980 (my first GPU that worked perfectly after the release of DCS 2.9 version.

So, said all of this, I'm seriously thinking about a CPU bottleneck, but upgrading my CPU means change MB, and RAM memory and those a PC case cause im currently using a micro-ATX case. So definitely to change an entire PC almost.

I'm also thinking about how my monitors could be affecting to all of this. I'm currently running a 60 Hz 1080p monitors. So maybe upgrading to a higher refresh rate monitor could suppose some difference, I don't know. I've also tried changing from response time on the OSD menu of the monitors. From high to medium, to low and to off, with no changes.

And of course my medium range GPU could be one of the causes, I know of course, but in theory should be anough for my 1080p set up. But as I've said before, upgrading to a best and newest PC would grant me being safe of suffering stutters? As I've read on the forums, a lot of people with a monster specs and monster PC's aren't free of suffering stutters wheter playing on VR wheter on 2D screens. So its really whorth it? and in that case with which specs that will grant me to not suffer sutters? 

I'm really disappointed, almost more than 4 months without playing seriously and doing only tests and tests and more tests. I would really continue buying more mods and terrains for my enjoying but for now ED has lost a customer till this will be fixed.

So, any more ideas? 

Please @BIGNEWY @Flappie could you take a look again pleasebg and let me know?

Thanks again to all and have safe flights

 

dcs.log DxDiag.txt mt.lua

Edited May 11, 2024 by lovethewayoumove

[Glide]

You want Low Latency Mode to On, not Ultra.  It's hard to tell in the NCP what's going on for English speakers.  Perhaps you should Restore defaults, and then set Low Latency Mode ON.  That's all you need from the NCP. (edit: you have the NCP set up all wrong.  You are running DLSS in the game settings, but trying to force MSAA and Transparency AA in the NCP, for example.)

Also, the DCS FPS counter is useless for debugging performance.  Use the OpenXR toolkit Advanced FPS counter, and disable Turbo Mode or "Prefer Frame Rate over Latency" during testing, because it breaks the FPS counter. 

It looks to me like you are having de-sync issues.  In the OpenXr toolkit FPS counter, watch the rdr CPU frame times.  If they start growing to the point where they exceed the app GPU frame times you get that sudden drop in FPS and that spiky behavior.   

I will also add that your 4060 can't run settings as high as you appear to have them. 

Edited May 11, 2024 by Glide

[Qcumber]

6 minutes ago, Glide said:

Use the OpenXR toolkit Advanced FPS counter, and disable Turbo Mode

I don't think he is using VR. 

[lovethewayoumove]

hace 2 minutos, Qcumber dijo:

I don't think he is using VR. 

Yep, exatly, I'm not on VR.

[Glide]

6 minutes ago, Qcumber said:

I don't think he is using VR. 

Looked like VR in the video.  Well then, reset defaults in the NCP, Low Latency Mode On, lower your settings.

Edited May 11, 2024 by Glide

[Qcumber]

I have just looked through your settings. I use VR so not sure if my advice will help but I sometimes get the issues with side stutter as you describe. The thing that helps the most is keeping your frame times as low as possible. Dropping below the refresh rate will cause stuttering. If you lock your FPS to your refresh rate try unlocking. This helped a lot for me..

[lovethewayoumove]

hace 9 minutos, Glide dijo:

You want Low Latency Mode to On, not Ultra.  It's hard to tell in the NCP what's going on for English speakers.  Perhaps you should Restore defaults, and then set Low Latency Mode ON.  That's all you need from the NCP. (edit: you have the NCP set up all wrong.  You are running DLSS in the game settings, but trying to force MSAA and Transparency AA in the NCP, for example.)

Also, the DCS FPS counter is useless for debugging performance.  Use the OpenXR toolkit Advanced FPS counter, and disable Turbo Mode or "Prefer Frame Rate over Latency" during testing, because it breaks the FPS counter. 

It looks to me like you are having de-sync issues.  In the OpenXr toolkit FPS counter, watch the rdr CPU frame times.  If they start growing to the point where they exceed the app GPU frame times you get that sudden drop in FPS and that spiky behavior.   

I will also add that your 4060 can't run settings as high as you appear to have them. 

 

I will take a look at what you are pointing, however as I told before, after almost 4 months of testing absolutely everything and all the possible combinations of NCP and DCS settings, these are the settings that gave me the best, highest and flat lines among all the combinations.

I'm also thinking about de-sync issues but I don't know how to solve it or how to test and identify it. I think I've tryed also all the possible kind of combinations.

I know that my GPU is not good enough, however why then If I lower the settings the problems still continue? Maybe a hardware issue related with the GPU?

hace 2 minutos, Qcumber dijo:

I have just looked through your settings. I use VR so not sure if my advice will help but I sometimes get the issues with side stutter as you describe. The thing that helps the most is keeping your frame times as low as possible. Dropping below the refresh rate will cause stuttering. If you lock your FPS to your refresh rate try unlocking. This helped a lot for me..

mmmm, tried as well, locked by NCP and DCS settings, same spikes, no changes. Thats why I left on high settings and not locked, in order to "minimize" the effect when the spike occurs.

[Glide]

17 minutes ago, lovethewayoumove said:

flat lines

Flat lines mean the frame times are very close together.  This means that if the rdr CPU grows, it will easily exceed app GPU times. You want to be GPU bound. 

 

17 minutes ago, lovethewayoumove said:

If I lower the settings the problems still continue

You have 8GB of vram, which is very easy to exceed with those high settings.  Try to find settings that put load on the GPU, but reduce the CPU load without exceeding your VRAM limit.  This is the goal.  Happy testing.

Edit: okay, i see from the FPS counter you are GPU bound.  Good.  The changes to the NCP should fix your issues.

Edited May 11, 2024 by Glide