OH-6A by Tobsen and Eightball

[tobi]

14 minutes ago, TheBiggerBass said:

Well, then I must do something wrong.

I guess my expectations for trim are too high for the OH-6A. It also seems difficult to "feel" the center of force without a FFB stick.

What does Govenor trim do ?

The govenor trim adjusts the RPM of the engine (N2)/rotor. 

16 minutes ago, TheBiggerBass said:

Well, then I must do something wrong.

I guess my expectations for trim are too high for the OH-6A. It also seems difficult to "feel" the center of force without a FFB stick.

What does Govenor trim do ?

Which trim option do you use? i think the pedal thing only works if it is Joystick with spring/...

[TheBiggerBass]

Ok, I have a stick without extension too and will try with reduced sensivity for cyclic. I guess I am used too much to the larger helis like AH-64D or CH-47 where cyclic is way more forgiving.

[TheBiggerBass]

vor 6 Minuten schrieb tobi:

Which trim option do you use? i think the pedal thing only works if it is Joystick with spring/...

I'm using a VKB Gunfighter Ultimate 4. It has springs but I'm using the weakest possible springs and high damping. It returns to center position but only slow. Keeping cylic pitch and roll out of center therefore requires just little manual force.

For pedal trim I'm using the Z axis of the stick which has no damping for the center return. Therefore I'd like to trim the pedals at least to avoid having to manually hold it out of stick center.

[tobi]

Just now, TheBiggerBass said:

I'm using a VKB Gunfighter Ultimate 4. It has springs but I'm using the weakest possible springs and high damping. It returns to center position but only slow. Keeping cylic pitch and roll out of center therefore requires just little manual force.

For pedal trim I'm using the Z axis of the stick which has no damping for the center return. Therefore I'd like to trim the pedals at least to avoid having to manually hold it out of stick center.

I meant which trim option?

[TheBiggerBass]

JOYSTICK WITH SPRING/CENTRAL POSTION and Use Pedaltrim checked

[tobi]

1 minute ago, TheBiggerBass said:

JOYSTICK WITH SPRING/CENTRAL POSTION and Use Pedaltrim checked

and the pedal thing does not work?

[TheBiggerBass]

vor 1 Minute schrieb tobi:

and the pedal thing does not work?

Well at least I how I currently operate it the tail rotor still seems to overreact. When Yaw seems stable I shortly press Trim Release and let Z stick axis (pedals) return to center position. But when recentered Yaw immedeatly goes havoc again. Maybe I need to tune Time to fade in trim in ms parameter ?

[Raffi75]

57 minutes ago, TheBiggerBass said:

I'm using a VKB Gunfighter Ultimate 4. It has springs but I'm using the weakest possible springs and high damping. It returns to center position but only slow. Keeping cylic pitch and roll out of center therefore requires just little manual force.

For pedal trim I'm using the Z axis of the stick which has no damping for the center return. Therefore I'd like to trim the pedals at least to avoid having to manually hold it out of stick center.

In the case of this helicopter, having pedals is a must. You can fly without them, of course, but it will be difficult and frustrating. This helicopter has no power steering and is very sensitive. It all depends on you (the pilot).

When I switched from the Mi-24 to this little thing, I was sure I couldn't fly helicopters. The Cayuse did whatever it wanted. I bought spring-loaded pedals on sale, and they weren't what I expected. Only removing the springs allowed me to have better control. Now I feel more in control of the helicopter.

[Tonker]

FWIW, I use an Ursa Minor and a set of T.16000m pedals, hardly top of the range, no pedal trim and about 100ms fade time. 

Trim the Little Bird for takeoff (very load dependent, but about 3s aft trim and 2s port trim), feed in power and pedal into a stable hover *hit the trim release*, move forward into the taxi *hit trime release*, add power/wait for translational lift speed *hit trim release*, settle into a stable climb *hit trim release* etc etc...notice a pattern?!

Every time I hit the trim release button, it enables me to relax the joystick to its central position, enabling fairly (the fault is mine not the heli's) smooth flight control adjustments. This would apply to the Z-axis too, if 'Use Pedaltrim' was enabled. I still use the trim hat a fair bit to finesse stable flight, or to set up into 'hover trim' in the final approach, but it's 'Trim Release' which gets the real workout!

HTH

Edited July 23 by Tonker

[Slippa]

I take the spring off my rudder pedals for helis. Barely use trim in the Loach, I should try using it a bit more. 

[Weed89]

where EXACTLY do I put the OH-6a WEAPON MOD files ? (( OH-6A Weapons & Attachments Mod v2.01 *Updated for OH-6A v1.5*))  i tried putting the Weapons folder into the OH-6A   \Mods\airplane\0H-6A\weapons  folder    and put the Entry.LUA file copying over the existing Entry.lua file    BUT that was not working   where do they go then ?  Thanks

Edited July 25 by Weed89
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[Raffi75]

1 hour ago, Weed89 said:

where EXACTLY do I put the OH-6a WEAPON MOD files ? (( OH-6A Weapons & Attachments Mod v2.01 *Updated for OH-6A v1.5*))  i tried putting the Weapons folder into the OH-6A   \Mods\airplane\0H-6A\weapons  folder    and put the Entry.LUA file copying over the existing Entry.lua file    BUT that was not working   where do they go then ?  Thanks

C:\Users\xxx\Saved Games\DCS\Mods\tech\OH-6A_Weaponpack\Weapons