DCS F-4E Phantom II Release Date Announcement- May 21st 2024

[Hog_driver]

2 minutes ago, lau.dmo said:

Update will probably also break that

and I thought I was a pessimist...

[BIGNEWY]

thank you all, we know this is disappointing but a broken patch would not be good for the F-4E launch, it will be worth the wait. 

 

[1Basti1]

Do we get a compensation for that?

 

[Mr Nobody]

Just now, 1Basti1 said:

Do we get a compensation for that?

Yep, you get a patch release that doesn't have a showstopping issue

[Lionel Mandrake]

Honestly ED couldn't hit water if they fell out of a boat. 

[Czar66]

4 minutes ago, 1Basti1 said:

Do we get a compensation for that?

 

A better patch than it would of been if one was released today.

[Hog_driver]

2 minutes ago, Lionel Mandrake said:

Honestly ED couldn't hit water if they fell out of a boat. 

That's why in the sim, the water is even under the ground

[Viking 1-1]

And another "day off" worth nothing. 5h prior to release they just postponed it. Again.

It is just one day (as of today, we will see tomorrow) but this really annoys me.

Then stop throwing out dates. Waiting for this since 2022...

Just never ever trust ED again.

[Invictus84]

It is one day.   I have other things to do, so no big deal for me.

[Hummingbird]

Lesson for all those who are mad at ED & HB because they took a day off to play this module:

Don't plan a day off to play something before it has actually been released. Release dates are often at risk of changing last minute. Hence ALWAYS plan your days off  AFTER it has released. 

Besides first day you pick the thing up is mostly going to be spent learning the systems anyway. So relax on the FOMO. 

 

[Lionel Mandrake]

1 minute ago, Viking 1-1 said:

And another "day off" worth nothing. 5h prior to release they just postponed it. Again.

It is just one day (as of today, we will see tomorrow) but this really annoys me.

Then stop throwing out dates. Waiting for this since 2022...

Just never ever trust ED again.

Yeah they are a joke, it's not like they've had the F4 for months and months for testing. How they can screw up this bad EVERY single time they commit to a date is unbelievable. Imagine sticking to a release date(impossible).

[1Basti1]

the problem is the patch comes tomorrow evening. so no chance to try it tomorrow for some in europe. may they should change the patch time

 

[Ben149]

14 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

thank you all, we know this is disappointing but a broken patch would not be good for the F-4E launch, it will be worth the wait. 

 

Why not release the F4 on its own. It seemed to work for everyone, otherwise there wouldn't be a ton of videos out there, and add everything else when it's ready?

[giullep]

for me it's the usual, everything is a little ridiculous…well one day it's nothing


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[ECTAE]

A lot of people here act tough, as if the issue doesn't bother them. What angers me is the lack of professionalism. That's all. The problem isn't about delaying the launch by 24 hours. I think most of us here are adults with jobs and other obligations, and it's likely that delaying the patch by 24 hours won't have any impact on our lives. But the mess that represents the fact of having even released a trailer with a specific launch date within a 15-day margin and 6 hours before the launch is unacceptable in any professional environment. I'm not saying it's impossible, but if I present a project a day past the deadline in my company or in state administrations, I would end up in the unemployment line. It's this kind of errors, bad practice, and poor Quality Control that will end up ruining this video game. Fifteen days is plenty of time to notice an error 6 hours before. And on the other hand, if you have faith in meeting that deadline within 24 hours, how does the programmer know that it will take exactly one day to complete the task? They had 15 days to do it and didn't, so by that logic, a single day doesn't make sense either. Anyway. Another reason to stop pre-ordering.

 

 

[Lurch1o]

1 minute ago, ECTAE said:

A lot of people here act tough, as if the issue doesn't bother them. What angers me is the lack of professionalism. That's all. The problem isn't about delaying the launch by 24 hours. I think most of us here are adults with jobs and other obligations, and it's likely that delaying the patch by 24 hours won't have any impact on our lives. But the mess that represents the fact of having even released a trailer with a specific launch date within a 15-day margin and 6 hours before the launch is unacceptable in any professional environment. I'm not saying it's impossible, but if I present a project a day past the deadline in my company or in state administrations, I would end up in the unemployment line. It's this kind of errors, bad practice, and poor Quality Control that will end up ruining this video game. Fifteen days is plenty of time to notice an error 6 hours before. And on the other hand, if you have faith in meeting that deadline within 24 hours, how does the programmer know that it will take exactly one day to complete the task? They had 15 days to do it and didn't, so by that logic, a single day doesn't make sense either. Anyway. Another reason to stop pre-ordering.

 

 

As a pilot and a programmer I can understand the complexities of both sides of the equation so I'm afraid I would have to disagree.  Just as mechanics find something 'extra' wrong as they tear down a jet engine which delays the repair yet further, software engineers discover errors or performance hits as their software gets distributed to a wider range of hardware.

My 'guess' is that the early release to the content creator community has show a few performance issues/bugs on a wider range of hardware.  The love that PC builders have of chucking ever more diverse bits of kit into their already over stressed boxes of RGB leads to an almost infinite number of hardware configurations that software, even through the abstraction layer, has to deal with.

It's another day or a few more days. Big deal.  This forum will explode exponentially more if/when bugs are found. 

[Q3ark]

Ever since ED switched to the 6 week patch timeline it’s been terrible, the last two patches broke obvious things with the F16, patch delays and screw ups, what’s going on over there? 

[BIGNEWY]

8 minutes ago, Ben149 said:

Why not release the F4 on its own. It seemed to work for everyone, otherwise there wouldn't be a ton of videos out there, and add everything else when it's ready?

DCS core updates are required so we do need to wait. Sorry

[YoYo]

1 hour ago, DOG said:

Edited May 21, 2024 by YoYo

[Javier]

Honestly, what bothers me is having pre-purchased the product so long in advance, of course this will be the first and last product I pre-purchase, so I won't be bothered by the delays.

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

40 minutes ago, Gunfreak said:

Same here, I knew I wasn't gonna get to fly it today as it releases just as dinner and family times starts, but was looking forward to spend most of the morning and afternoon tomorrow with it. But now in best case scenario I'll have to wait for Thursday to test it. Really 1st world problem thing that really doesn't matter, but still annoying.

Not quite on this side. I now have a little more time to practise my heli, drinking tea, admiring life, etc.

Read my sig, I am enjoying the show at the same time.

Peace.

Edited May 21, 2024 by VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants

[Lionel Mandrake]

8 minutes ago, ECTAE said:

A lot of people here act tough, as if the issue doesn't bother them. What angers me is the lack of professionalism. That's all. The problem isn't about delaying the launch by 24 hours. I think most of us here are adults with jobs and other obligations, and it's likely that delaying the patch by 24 hours won't have any impact on our lives. But the mess that represents the fact of having even released a trailer with a specific launch date within a 15-day margin and 6 hours before the launch is unacceptable in any professional environment. I'm not saying it's impossible, but if I present a project a day past the deadline in my company or in state administrations, I would end up in the unemployment line. It's this kind of errors, bad practice, and poor Quality Control that will end up ruining this video game. Fifteen days is plenty of time to notice an error 6 hours before. And on the other hand, if you have faith in meeting that deadline within 24 hours, how does the programmer know that it will take exactly one day to complete the task? They had 15 days to do it and didn't, so by that logic, a single day doesn't make sense either. Anyway. Another reason to stop pre-ordering.

 

 

Spot on. Take a look in the mirror and upper cut yourselves ED.

[Ben149]

1 minute ago, BIGNEWY said:

DCS core updates are required so we do need to wait. Sorry

It worked for all the content Creators too, why wouldn't it work for us then?

[Eugel]

17 minutes ago, Viking 1-1 said:

And another "day off" worth nothing. 5h prior to release they just postponed it. Again.

It is just one day (as of today, we will see tomorrow) but this really annoys me.

Then stop throwing out dates. Waiting for this since 2022...

Just never ever trust ED again.

Well, do you think there would be less complaining if they didn´t give out a date ?

[Gunfreak]

41 minutes ago, Nealius said:

Arguably the QC and "proper testing" should be finished at minimum a full business day before scheduled release. If that can't be done then reevaluating how release dates are set may be in order.

I'm just relatively happed they announced this now, and not 1 hour after expected patch release.