DCS F-4E Phantom II Release Date Announcement- May 21st 2024

[steveman]

No wise man sinned twice.!!!

The phrase is attributed to the ancient Greek poet, Menander.

I hope it will be released to the public tomorrow.!!

[markturner1960]

I just looked on my account in the DCS E shop.......3 pages of it.....58 purchases.....If you average £30 per product ( some are more, some less) Thats over £1700..... I would say I am a good customer and have a right to be pissed off.....

[Elf1606688794]

39 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

It was the 21st, we had to delay for 24 hours to fix some issues found during final checks of DCS 

sorry about that 

Damn it all to hell Bignewy. I've been starting DCS every 10 minutes looking to see if the F-4 was downloadable yet.

I guess its time to find something else to do for the rest of the day. Lol

[BIGNEWY]

Just now, Elf1606688794 said:

Damn it all to hell Bignewy. I've been starting DCS every 10 minutes looking to see if the F-4 was downloadable yet.

I guess its time to find something else to do for the rest of the day. Lol

Fly the F-14 maybe?  

yep sorry about that, either way hope you have a good day. 

[Horns]

3 minutes ago, Elf1606688794 said:

Damn it all to hell Bignewy. I've been starting DCS every 10 minutes looking to see if the F-4 was downloadable yet.

I guess its time to find something else to do for the rest of the day. Lol

Well you don't really have to stop, in fact this way it would probably help you kill a lot more time...  

[Beezer]

Guess I can take off my Phantom T-shirt. Maybe it will fit better tomorrow...

[BIGNEWY]

19 minutes ago, markturner1960 said:

Sorry, but why all the excuses for what is plainly a giant balls up at ED end....? They are a BIG company and you dont NEED to be a big company to have good processes in place to make sure your product is delivered on time without quality issues. Millions of small businesses around the world can attest to that.

I should add, I am am a huge supporter of what ED are doing, buy all the modules and maps , just to support them, as we have NO other choice of sim to fly really. Which is why I think this hurts a lot of people as its a pattern and to happen on this release of all releases just feels like someone does not care.......

 

 

We would say we are a small company, around 200 team members, and not all devs. They are very dedicated and work very hard. QA found the issues during final checks, I am glad they did otherwise we would be complaining about broken patches. 

I understand you are upset, we are all disappointed, a 24 hour delay is necessary however. 

Thank you  

[dggoofy]

Wow... I wouldn't want to be a moderator for this topic. Hats off to you, fellows!

[UN9249]

i'am very upset and dissapointed. I broke my schedule for the release which didn't came.

[macedk]

2 hours ago, Yeti42 said:

I disagree with you disagreeing. I'm an ex aircraft engineer, a pilot and an ex programmer, I've been working in the software industry for over 25 years at all levels.  It's very rare any company I've worked for has had to delay a release on THE DAY OF release.  The only way this happens is if you don't allow enough time for testing and final build checks, assuming you won't find any problems and not having any contingency time to fix them. This is a simple project management failure, for any serious software vendor this would be a PR disaster.  If it was two weeks ago and they found a problem with the RC build that was very difficult to fix or had a huge risk then it's kind of excusable to delay a release, but not one day before.

Or it is being extra careful. We don't know what we don't know. As started "ED wants to make the best launch". I remember certain Iphone or Microsoft launches that were questionable. ED might have a stop policy that prevents key people staying silent and voice concerns even on the eve of.  Now if this turns into 2 weeks then could understand the pitchforks. 
24 hours. And shocker, it might have small bugs, it is a early release. 
while you wait

 

[Elf1606688794]

6 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

Fly the F-14 maybe?  

yep sorry about that, either way hope you have a good day. 

I might go make some fishing lures. I need some frogs (all 4 sizes), stick baits (especially in my tournament winning color), lizards (both sizes) and some new buzz baits. I'll probably stop for ice cream on the way there and charge it to ED so I can feel better. 

[Mike Force Team]

Give @BIGNEWY a break on any criticisms for the unexpected delay.  While Mike Force Team's Mig-21's pilot and group crew are also frustrated at the delay, we are waiting for the issues to be resolved.  

Mike Force Team

 

[Punkmonkey22]

14 minutes ago, markturner1960 said:

I just looked on my account in the DCS E shop.......3 pages of it.....58 purchases.....If you average £30 per product ( some are more, some less) Thats over £1700..... I would say I am a good customer and have a right to be pissed off.....

You have I assume every aircraft, but you're upset that today you can't learn to fly another one?

 

You could just, I dunno. Maybe fly one of the others?

[UN9249]

3 минуты назад, macedk сказал:

ED wants to make the best launch

well. now this will be the most famous ED's launch failure XD

[Yeti42]

1 hour ago, Lee Dove said:

I have also been in SW dev and PM for 30+ years  and disagree with you disagreeing on him disagreeing. SW dev company prepares release, MS releases a Windows update that breaks the build the day before release, what do you do? You hold the release in any sane commercial world. This has happened to me !

Yep, that has happened, and heads rolled, doesn't mean it's right or that it shouldn't of happened and was avoidable. Tenure in a job doesn't necessarily mean you're good at it....

[macedk]

15 minutes ago, dggoofy said:

Wow... I wouldn't want to be a moderator for this topic. Hats off to you, fellows!

I would call in a A-10, 24 hours CAS mission, guns only

8 minutes ago, UN9249 said:

well. now this will be the most famous ED's launch failure XD

Nope that spot is already taken and rectified.

[ThorBrasil]

22 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

We would say we are a small company, around 200 team members, and not all devs. They are very dedicated and work very hard. QA found the issues during final checks, I am glad they did otherwise we would be complaining about broken patches. 

I understand you are upset, we are all disappointed, a 24 hour delay is necessary however. 

Thank you  

Do you know what can be done to end all this fighting? Just post updates when they are uploaded to the server. This way you avoid all this headache. I'm actually calm. I waited for almost 6 months since I bought it on the first day of pre-order. One more day won't kill anyone. Patience is a virtue.

[Horns]

10 minutes ago, macedk said:

I would call in a A-10, 24 hours CAS mission, guns only

 

I'd go with napalm, but we don't have the right plane yet...

[Mainstay]

Thank you ED and Heatblur for the hard work. Another day of waiting or even a few days for quality is fine. 

[NAM]

33 minutes ago, markturner1960 said:

I just looked on my account in the DCS E shop.......3 pages of it.....58 purchases.....If you average £30 per product ( some are more, some less) Thats over £1700..... I would say I am a good customer and have a right to be pissed off.....

I shared your frustration, like you I spent north of 1700.

I think, I am going to stop spending or at least slow down

All this frustration is not good for my BP.

[Dom82]

vor 4 Minuten schrieb NAM:

I shared your frustration, like you I spent north of 1700.

I think, I am going to stop spending or at least slow down

All this frustration is not good for my BP.

In the end you buy it after all.

[macedk]

9 minutes ago, Horns said:

I'd go with napalm, but we don't have the right plane yet...

Mig-21 have nukes, have at it

 

[Qcumber]

38 minutes ago, Beezer said:

Guess I can take off my Phantom T-shirt. Maybe it will fit better tomorrow...

No! Keep it on. It’s bad luck to take it off.

And please no-one shave off their moustache! 

[bfr]

Just now, Qcumber said:

And please no-one shave off their moustache! 

Be grateful of the extra time to cultivate it.

[macedk]

1 minute ago, Qcumber said:

No! Keep it on. It’s bad luck to take it off.

And please no-one shave off their moustache! 

Moustache..... I shaved my head for this god dang it!

The tatoo can be fixed but I'll have to wait until tomorrow he said...