waiting for resolution RAZBAM Situation Post Archive (will be deleted)

[MustangSally]

Yep, better than an episode of Days of our lives!

[crazysundog]

22 minutes ago, Rainmaker said:

RB stating they were not being currently developed? You’re here but don’t know. 
 

RB doesn't even have a store.  And no, there are no links.  

 

Take less breaks.  Pay more attention to what is going on. 

I have purchased items from Razbams store in the past, and it appears the links for the DCS modules have been deactivated; so I was in error. (The store does exist tho)

However, I have never, nor has anybody ever seen any evidence that the Razbam modules will not be supported in the future, whatever the outcome of this predicament.  You only offer speculation that this is the case.  

Touch grass, Rainmaker.  It will do you some good.

 

Edited June 7, 2024 by crazysundog

[Ignition]

No one knows the future of the modules until ED say so.

[Rainmaker]

1 minute ago, crazysundog said:

I have purchased items from Razbams store in the past, and it appears the links for the DCS modules have been deactivated; so I was in error. (The store does exist tho)

However, I have never, nor has anybody ever seen any evidence that the Razbam modules will not be supported in the future, whatever the outcome of this predicament.  You only offer speculation that this is the case.  

Touch grass, Rainmaker.  It will do you some good.

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Sigh....they never had a store.  Lol.  Only a link to ED's store.  You know where your money went?

Look at the first couple pages of this thread.  Until then, not much use responding.

[afnav130]

4 minutes ago, crazysundog said:

I have purchased items from Razbams store in the past, and it appears the links for the DCS modules have been deactivated; so I was in error. (The store does exist tho)

However, I have never, nor has anybody ever seen any evidence that the Razbam modules will not be supported in the future, whatever the outcome of this predicament.  You only offer speculation that this is the case.  

Touch grass, Rainmaker.  It will do you some good.

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Methinks you don't know what Rain did IRL. Touching grass? ROFL. Anyhow, yeah I never remember RB having a store. 

[crazysundog]

Just now, afnav130 said:

Methinks you don't know what Rain did IRL. Touching grass? ROFL. Anyhow, yeah I never remember RB having a store. 

I literally just linked a screengrab of their store; they've had it since they began.  I was in error; they just linked the DCS modules to the DCS store.  They deactivated the link.

Getting lost in speculation and hyperventilating or handwringing over what might be doesn't do anyone any good... And anyone getting upset over this little predicament should really take a step back from DCS and back into the real-world for a little break.

[Rainmaker]

5 minutes ago, afnav130 said:

Methinks you don't know what Rain did IRL. Touching grass? ROFL. Anyhow, yeah I never remember RB having a store. 

 

Slurs and hit things with hammers.

[crazysundog]

Just now, Rainmaker said:

 

Slurs and hit things with hammers.

Lol, love it

[boedha68]

As Long there is no official statement everyone is guessing. Don't guess, just have a Fine weekend, remain calm and WHO knows. Hopefully the outcome is positive. 

[Beirut]

11 minutes ago, crazysundog said:

And anyone getting upset over this little predicament . . . 

 

It's not a question of getting upset - it's a question of getting what you paid for. And if someone has a reasonable argument to make that they aren't getting what they paid for, they are of course allowed to voice their concerns. That's just a part of business. 

 

And business is business.

[Fropa]

7 minutes ago, boedha68 said:

As Long there is no official statement everyone is guessing. Don't guess, just have a Fine weekend, remain calm and WHO knows. Hopefully the outcome is positive. 

Hopefully your money wasn’t wasted. Who knows? 

[crazysundog]

4 minutes ago, Beirut said:

 

It's not a question of getting upset - it's a question of getting what you paid for. And if someone has a reasonable argument to make that they aren't getting what they paid for, they are of course allowed to voice their concerns. That's just a part of business. 

 

And business is business.

So get your money back.

Vote with your wallet - That is business.

[PhantomHans]

3 hours ago, vvm13 said:

In short, they do an infinite amount of work for a finite amount of money, and even death is not an excuse.

That's literally not what I said at all though, is it?

It would be better to say, in short, you can't read.

 

They're welcome to call it quits and walk away at any time.  Just release a patch thay removes the need to contact a server for authentication and they can all retire.

 

It's three simple easy requests, really.

Guarantee that we receive what we pay for, that it will be repaired when it's broken, and they won't simply switch off our ability to use it one day.

Edited June 7, 2024 by PhantomHans

[muzica9]

3 hours ago, hollow said:

Just asked for a refund. I hope they won`t give me the store credits as I will absolutely not buy any additional modules, nor from ED nor from 3rd parties after the Razbam fiasco.

i also asked for refund(money back). they only give store credit, wich is not legally ok for Europe.

Edited June 7, 2024 by muzica9

[Beirut]

8 minutes ago, crazysundog said:

So get your money back.

Vote with your wallet - That is business.

 

I very much doubt Steam would accommodate such a request. 

[crazysundog]

1 minute ago, Beirut said:

 

I very much doubt Steam would accommodate such a request. 

Oh sweet lord,

You have the Steam version of DCS World and purchased an EA product there?

Caveat emptor my friend

You are the walking definition of 'business is business'

[Beirut]

1 minute ago, crazysundog said:

Oh sweet lord,

You have the Steam version of DCS World and purchased an EA product there?

Caveat emptor my friend

You are the walking definition of 'business is business'

 

Actually, I'm the walking definition of "damn good looking". 

 

In any case, someone needs to tend to my F-15E. 

[Schmidtfire]

1 hour ago, Silver_Dragon said:

Someone remember Larry Zambrano and Leonardo Salvatore RAZBAM teams members has codders?

 

 

They are not Gallinette. Look at his work on the M2000C overhaul and the F-15E radar. Developing modules is a team effort, but he elevated the Razbam products to the absolute top level as far as fidelity and ingenuity goes. Always ready to go above and beyond. No one is irreplaceable, but there is no denying how important he has been the last few years .

From what I understand (not 100% verified), RB will not develop any more modules, except maybe finish/support their current lineup. Long term it does not sound promising at all, so even if the situation is resolved and development resumed... It's not ideal situation for continued support over a longer period of time.

[crazysundog]

1 minute ago, Beirut said:

 

Actually, I'm the walking definition of "damn good looking". 

 

In any case, someone needs to tend to my F-15E. 

You and me both, brother!!

That's the best laugh I had all day

Hope it gets resolved for you, you good looking sonovabiche

[LordOrion]

8 hours ago, DUSTY said:

Keep dreamin'! Like we will see anything on this level of quality (F-15E) from ED?

Do you seriously believe that the current F-15E has a better quality than an F-16 or an F/A-18?

[Archangel44]

I really hope things work out cuzz I really like the modules I have purchased, F-15E, Mig-19, and the South Atlantic map.

And I honestly would like to add to the barn the AV-8 and the M-2000 but now doesn't seem like a good time so I'll keep hoping and waiting.

High Flight my fellow pilots.

[Beirut]

Just now, Archangel44 said:

I really hope things work out cuzz I really like the modules I have purchased, F-15E, Mig-19, and the South Atlantic map.

And I honestly would like to add to the barn the AV-8 and the M-2000 but now doesn't seem like a good time so I'll keep hoping and waiting.

High Flight my fellow pilots.

 

If it was just the F-15E that would suck, but that the Harrier is included makes it worse because that is a fantastic module. Some of the best DCS flying fun I've had was in the Harrier.

[crazysundog]

3 minutes ago, Beirut said:

 

If it was just the F-15E that would suck, but that the Harrier is included makes it worse because that is a fantastic module. Some of the best DCS flying fun I've had was in the Harrier.

The Harrier is a completed module.  That should leave it in ED's hands to keep it functioning if RB was to abandon the product. 

I could be wrong about that, but as far as I know that was the statement from ED when they first announced that 3rd party developers would be able to create content for DCS.

[Horns]

35 minutes ago, Archangel44 said:

I really hope things work out cuzz I really like the modules I have purchased, F-15E, Mig-19, and the South Atlantic map.

And I honestly would like to add to the barn the AV-8 and the M-2000 but now doesn't seem like a good time so I'll keep hoping and waiting.

High Flight my fellow pilots.

If/when this blows over, I suggest you look at the Razbam Discord Harrier FAQ section before considering the AV-8.  I found it very enlightening, both for where it is and what one can expect in future (pending future change). Just a thought.

[MAXsenna]

Dunno if this has been already posted or not:
 

Yes it was, and you should read the comments to it above...

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