Hellfire launch causes CTD

[monkie]

Twice now when having a target in Point Track firing Hellfire caused a CTD. I've had the crash from both the P and CP seats. Holding the lase button at the same time and pulling the trigger. The Hellfires sometimes refuse to fire or I have to hold the trigger a long time. Sometimes they will fire without hesitation. But twice now I get a CTD just as soon as the Hellfire does launch.

[monkie]

tried to duplicate but can't, the two CTD's were sent as reports if that helps at all.

[Looney]

I launched hellfires just fine in SP from both the pilot and CPG seat.

 

[Moxica]

Any mods in that mission?
They are often the culprit of described CTD.

[monkie]

There was one mod for ZEUS unit spawner which I've used for years with no issues but no others. I tried a clean mission with no issues and fired multiple HF's without a CTD. I went back to the orignal mission that has the mod and fired with no issues as well. Hopefully an isolated thing but maybe someone will have a duplicate issue in the future and they can report it here as well.

 

[Heesh]

Was playing online on the 4YA Caucasus EU2. Got an CTD when I fired the 2nd hellfire. On the first hellfire I forgot to hold the laser (no CTD). Dunno if the mission uses mod. Track attached (dunno if it helps).

4YA_Cau_PVE2_V2.92[01_MAY_FEW]-20240606-182732.trk

[Mud]

I had the same happen to me earlier.  Then on the 2nd run I had no issues, but I ruled out A and B in the following list.

Three potential culprits I can think of:
A) AGM-114's were in Standby rather than Normal
B) A-4E Mod
C) It's intermittent

I'll report back here when I have time for some more testing.

[monkie]

I've played several more times with the same Mods and haven't had a crash yet and fired several HF's. I've only had one other CTD and it was AFTER I fired all the HF's succesfully.

I will say that firing weapons is kinda strange with the 2 stage trigger, sometimes the HF won't fire at all even though all constraints are met. I have to pull and hold the trigger a couple of times to get them to come off the rails. Sometimes it's the long wait and sometimes they seem to fire with little pause. 

[DD_fruitbat]

I've fired lots with no problems, but he last one just hung the game and i had to kill the process. First time its happened, and a few seconds before the first fired with no issues.

[todd022]

I had the hellfire crash early on once so far. It was when I was in the CP/G seat, firing laser designator, and when I launched the hellfire I got the CTD as the missile left the rails. 

[YoYo]

I noticed it also few times, I havent idea why. Mostly it was in LOAL condition I suppose, with LOBL no issue.

[GrEaSeLiTeNiN]

Yeah while playing a campaign, firing hellfires has caused me cause quite a few CTDs. While I can't reproduce it in absolute steps, it has happened often enough. 

[YoYo]

19 hours ago, GrEaSeLiTeNiN said:

Yeah while playing a campaign, firing hellfires has caused me cause quite a few CTDs. While I can't reproduce it in absolute steps, it has happened often enough. 

After the last patch (2.9.6) it didn't happen to me anymore, so maybe it's fixed?

[GrEaSeLiTeNiN]

On 7/22/2024 at 6:27 AM, YoYo said:

After the last patch (2.9.6) it didn't happen to me anymore, so maybe it's fixed?

Unfortunately no. Might be that it happens because I use unlimited weapons and fire off too many hellfires for the system to 'handle'.  

Edited July 22, 2024 by GrEaSeLiTeNiN

[tempusmurphy]

had a hard lockup when trying to use a Hellfire against an AI Mi24 ... unfortunately no track file because of hard lockup, had to task manager to get out of game, also noted several times where hellfires would not launch straight away and had to re-lase then try again 

Edited August 21, 2024 by tempusmurphy

[GrEaSeLiTeNiN]

Upgraded my RAM from 32 to 64, thought it might help (maybe?) with the unlimited hellfires being too much to handle. But nope, still encountered a crash yesterday after firing a number of hellfires. I do hope they fix this.

[BIGNEWY]

If you are crashing attach your dcs log so we can look for clues. 

You should not be crashing, so it needs to be investigated. 

[metzger]

Today it crashed for me while shooting in DIR mode towards T point. The moment HF left the rail, screen froze followed by CTD.

 

Not sure if this is the correct log file since I started the game again after that.

dcs.log-20240829-113812.zip

[GrEaSeLiTeNiN]

On 8/23/2024 at 4:48 PM, BIGNEWY said:

If you are crashing attach your dcs log so we can look for clues. 

You should not be crashing, so it needs to be investigated. 

CTD again when firing a hellfire. ORIDE/NORM/LO mode. Crash log attached.
dcs.log-20240830-022501.zip

Edited August 30, 2024 by GrEaSeLiTeNiN

[Mud]

I had the same just happen again.
Mode: LOAL HI

First Hellfire fired fine. 2nd one caused CTD.
Map Caucasus. Loadout 7 AWPKS rockets and 2 Hellfires

EDIT: I was basically able to replicate the issue. 2nd Hellfire shot caused the same issue again now. It's a rather long flight though, so not too eager to replicate it again

EDIT 2: Was able to replicate the same again in a Nevada map training mission of mine.

Br,

Mud

dcs.log-20240830-183354.zip

Edited September 1, 2024 by Mud
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[Deadguy]

I had the same happen just now. It's happened twice now. Once with the laser mapped to the keyboard, second time with the laser mapped to the same joystick I'm using for the trigger. Both times it was on Caucasus map. Missile in NORM and LOBL.