reported CPU runs +20° hotter in idle after update to 2.9.16.10523.

[Morrowind]

 

1 hour ago, inZane said:

Each owner of the server would have to be the ones to make that decision, not ED. As for cores around 80c will depend on a number of things. What is your CPU? What is your idle (pre-DCS launch) temps, your temps in menu. Are you air cooled, AIO, custom water? Depening on some of those factors will determine your temps. Also, what is a temp of another DX11/12 game that you have that will push your system/graphics?

The point is pre patch the game didnt run at 70c plus at the home menu and everything was running about 20c cooler or more for the people posting here in game prior to the patch that just released.

[icedstar]

My pc specs are 

Ryzen 9 5950 + AIO 360mm
RTX 3080 GPU

I used to run DCS anywhere from 55c to 60c and after the latest patch my temps go all the way up to 70c in the menu and up to 80c in a mission while using the F10 map. 

And before someone says that 80c is a fine temp for a CPU, I know it won't melt my PC but the fact is that there is a 20c bump in temps since the lastest patch so something is clearly wrong with it. 

On the GPU side I see normal temps or even slightly better temps than before but the difference is 1 or 2 degrees. 

[SOLIDKREATE]

I'm part of this too. My fans are going nuts and my water cooler is too. Even when I'm on the carrier deck. When I get back on tonight I will post some pics.

[rob10]

At this point it's reported and BigNewy has said the dev's have reproduced it, so not sure what purpose more pics will actually serve.  It's an issue, for some, and ED is working on it.

[Kevin509]

Can confirm I'm also having this problem on my AMD system. 

Getting 70 plus degrees at idle in the main menu with the current version, vs 40 degrees in the menu with the most recent previous version.

If anybody needs it, I had ChatGPT make me a command prompt to revert to the previous version, which I can confirm worked for me:

@echo off
cd /d "C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin"
DCS_updater.exe update 2.9.15.9599.1@openbeta
pause

[Temetre]

I think people get really confused, the temperature is not the problem. If your CPU is being used to 30-50% and already runs 90+C, then your cooling sucks. A game cant make your CPU run hotter for the same work. 

The actual problem is just a DCS performance issue, for some reason even sitting in the main menu it creates a ton of CPU usage. See this weird spikey graph:

[speed-of-heat]

26 minutes ago, Temetre said:

I think people get really confused, the temperature is not the problem. If your CPU is being used to 30-50% and already runs 90+C, then your cooling sucks. A game cant make your CPU run hotter for the same work. 

The actual problem is just a DCS performance issue, for some reason even sitting in the main menu it creates a ton of CPU usage. See this weird spikey graph:

so i am seeing similar to this in my AMD 9800x3d in main menu, what i am not seeing is a massive temperature increase as described by other users 

Edited 3 hours ago by speed-of-heat

[A n Y]

For those who don't want to go back to an older version and have a powerful PC and a problem with temperatures. Temporarily lower the turbo boost on the processor in the bios or turn it off. Those who don't go into the bios can achieve a similar result in windows in the power options and reduce the cpu performance % I have 99% and turbo is turned off. Frequency drops from 4.9Ghz to 3.7Ghz temperature 70C to 36C.

[Baldrick33]

2 minutes ago, speed-of-heat said:

so i am seeing similar to this in my AMD 9800x3d, what i am not seeing is a massive temperature increase as described by other users 

I have not even looked at temps but my 5800x3d is running more cores at 100% whilst anecdotally it feels like it is taking longer (which is why I looked)

[A n Y]

46 minutes ago, Temetre said:

I think people get really confused, the temperature is not the problem. If your CPU is being used to 30-50% and already runs 90+C, then your cooling sucks. A game cant make your CPU run hotter for the same work. 

The actual problem is just a DCS performance issue, for some reason even sitting in the main menu it creates a ton of CPU usage. See this weird spikey graph:

the picture shows why you have no problem your cpu is evenly loaded. My cpu is not evenly loaded until the previous patch two cores were loaded to 100% in the current version it is three cores at 100%. And here it depends what cpu you have and what operating system you use. My cpu with win 10 when loaded with 3 cores at 100 will drive the frequency to max frequency and thus experience a temperature and power spike. And I have Noctua NH-D15 cooling and 5 fans take care of air circulation in the case.

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for a better idea with hyper threading turned off

 

 

[ghostmail1999]

vor einer Stunde schrieb A n Y:

Für diejenigen, die nicht zu einer älteren Version zurückkehren wollen und einen leistungsstarken PC und ein Temperaturproblem haben. Senken Sie vorübergehend den Turboschub auf dem Prozessor in den Bios oder schalten Sie ihn aus. Wer nicht in die Bios geht, kann ein ähnliches Ergebnis in den Fenstern in den Leistungsoptionen erzielen und die CPU-Leistung reduzieren, die ich zu 99 % habe, und der Turbo ist ausgeschaltet. Die Frequenz sinkt von 4,9 GHz auf 3,7 GHz Temperatur 70 °C auf 36 °C.

Thanks for the temporary solution. It works great. I highly recommend this approach..

 

 

[Cupra]

Can temps be watched with normal Windows tools or do you need some special programm?

[speed-of-heat]

normal windows tools, like HWInfo or MSI Afterburner will do just fine

[pegasus1]

I checked last night and i cant see any difference on my 9950x3d whether using just the cache cores, just the performance cores or all 16 cores, temps are all around what id expect.

Still hitting around 5.7ghz on the cache cores and 5.9ghz on the performance cores and that was running a huge mission with 120 planes up and around 1000 missiles in the air.

Also guys, using other peoples quoted CPU temps as a reference to your own doesn't work unless they also quote room/case ambient so you are comparing Delta to Delta.

Hitting 90c isnt an issue if the ambient is 30c, hitting 90c in an igloo is a big issue.

[Temetre]

vor 1 Stunde schrieb A n Y:

the picture shows why you have no problem your cpu is evenly loaded. My cpu is not evenly loaded until the previous patch two cores were loaded to 100% in the current version it is three cores at 100%. And here it depends what cpu you have and what operating system you use. My cpu with win 10 when loaded with 3 cores at 100 will drive the frequency to max frequency and thus experience a temperature and power spike. And I have Noctua NH-D15 cooling and 5 fans take care of air circulation in the case.

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Windows says I got 50% average CPU load, which is way too much for the menu. So I definitely have the problem, just to a lesser degree. My CPU also has 65 watt TDP, so with a solid cooler and airflow its not gonna get very hot even at max power draw.

And either way the point is that people getting worried about the temperature is mostly born of ignorance. Yes, the CPU shouldnt work that hard in the DCS menu, but thats all there is. It works hard so it creates the quivalent heat from it; and the CPU itself is literally built to work as hard as possible. Your CPU maxing 3 cores and running at 70C is even very far from the load it can handle. You should stress test your CPU to see how it actually acts under max load.

Like, 70 degrees is pretty cool for CPU under load. People getting worried about that temperature is just wasted energy. And the idea that "DCS makes my CPU somehow go more hot than it should" is magical thinking. Same way how people thought New Worlds was killing their 3090s, when it had nothing to do with the game specifically.

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Temetre

[Creampie]

Same result on both of my machines,

7950x +20c on average 

14900k + 22c on average

This is just sitting in the main menu lol.

 

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