Patch notes discussion August 2025

[BIGNEWY]

 

[RedBlueF0X]

Some of the new assets are not available in the mission editor.
Mainly:

1. FV101 Scorpion Light Tank
2. FV107 Scimitar CRV
3. T-90M MBT
4. T-84 Oplot-M MBT
5. T-64 Bv 2017 MBT
6. M1130 Stryker Infantry Combat Vehicle
7. M-ATV MRAP
8. BMPT Terminator MBT support vehicle
9. 9K720 Iskander SRBM (with 9M723K1 Cluster/Unitary missiles)
10. M142 GMLRS (with M30A1/M31 missiles)
11. M142 ATACMS SRBM (with M39A1/M48 missiles)
12. Pantsir S1 SPAAGM (with 57E6 missile)
13. Tor M2 SHORAD (with 9M338 missile)
14. TOS-1A MRL (with MO.1.01.04M missile)
15. M1083 MTV Truck
16. IRIS-T SLM LN SAM (with IRIS-T SLM missile)
17. IRIS-T SLM STR SAM
18. IRIS-T SLM CP SAM
19. Project 22160 Patrol Ship with SA-15 (Tor-M2)
20. Project 22160 Patrol Ship 
    
     

Also it seems like the CJTF for both redfor and bluefor are no longer assignable before the unit placement.

Tested with date set to 21st of June 1990/2020/2025/2090.

Units not available in any major nations that are operating said units in real life (Tested both Russia ans USSR)

[RedBlueF0X]

33 minutes ago, RedBlueF0X said:

Some of the new assets are not available in the mission editor.
Mainly:

1. FV101 Scorpion Light Tank
2. FV107 Scimitar CRV
3. T-90M MBT
4. T-84 Oplot-M MBT
5. T-64 Bv 2017 MBT
6. M1130 Stryker Infantry Combat Vehicle
7. M-ATV MRAP
8. BMPT Terminator MBT support vehicle
9. 9K720 Iskander SRBM (with 9M723K1 Cluster/Unitary missiles)
10. M142 GMLRS (with M30A1/M31 missiles)
11. M142 ATACMS SRBM (with M39A1/M48 missiles)
12. Pantsir S1 SPAAGM (with 57E6 missile)
13. Tor M2 SHORAD (with 9M338 missile)
14. TOS-1A MRL (with MO.1.01.04M missile)
15. M1083 MTV Truck
16. IRIS-T SLM LN SAM (with IRIS-T SLM missile)
17. IRIS-T SLM STR SAM
18. IRIS-T SLM CP SAM
19. Project 22160 Patrol Ship with SA-15 (Tor-M2)
20. Project 22160 Patrol Ship 
    
     

Also it seems like the CJTF for both redfor and bluefor are no longer assignable before the unit placement.

Tested with date set to 21st of June 1990/2020/2025/2090.

Units not available in any major nations that are operating said units in real life (Tested both Russia ans USSR)

Update: Units are visible in Encyclopedia

[virgo47]

Cargo. Internal cargo support added for UH-1H, Mi-8 and Mi-24P What exactly does this mean? Is it related to this thread?

[DD_Friar]

PLEASE! When do we get the new soldier model - They were first shown a couple of years back, they have been appearing in all subsequent promotional videos, they are now in Wags latest Afgan video, surely they must be ready for release now? They are so needed to make all of the new maps more realistic. 

[ThorBrasil]

3 minutes ago, DD_Friar said:

PLEASE! When do we get the new soldier model - They were first shown a couple of years back, they have been appearing in all subsequent promotional videos, they are now in Wags latest Afgan video, surely they must be ready for release now? They are so needed to make all of the new maps more realistic. 

To appear frequently, it means that the release is near.

[BIGNEWY]

15 minutes ago, virgo47 said:

Cargo. Internal cargo support added for UH-1H, Mi-8 and Mi-24P What exactly does this mean? Is it related to this thread?

Yes the dynamic cargo system 

[Czar]

1 hour ago, RedBlueF0X said:

Some of the new assets are not available in the mission editor.
Mainly:

1. FV101 Scorpion Light Tank
2. FV107 Scimitar CRV
3. T-90M MBT
4. T-84 Oplot-M MBT
5. T-64 Bv 2017 MBT
6. M1130 Stryker Infantry Combat Vehicle
7. M-ATV MRAP
8. BMPT Terminator MBT support vehicle
9. 9K720 Iskander SRBM (with 9M723K1 Cluster/Unitary missiles)
10. M142 GMLRS (with M30A1/M31 missiles)
11. M142 ATACMS SRBM (with M39A1/M48 missiles)
12. Pantsir S1 SPAAGM (with 57E6 missile)
13. Tor M2 SHORAD (with 9M338 missile)
14. TOS-1A MRL (with MO.1.01.04M missile)
15. M1083 MTV Truck
16. IRIS-T SLM LN SAM (with IRIS-T SLM missile)
17. IRIS-T SLM STR SAM
18. IRIS-T SLM CP SAM
19. Project 22160 Patrol Ship with SA-15 (Tor-M2)
20. Project 22160 Patrol Ship 
    
     

Also it seems like the CJTF for both redfor and bluefor are no longer assignable before the unit placement.

Tested with date set to 21st of June 1990/2020/2025/2090.

Units not available in any major nations that are operating said units in real life (Tested both Russia ans USSR)

Uncheck the historical switch on the bottom of the screen and the units will appear. I've seen all of them already in the editor.

It is indeed a bug with the clock switch for historical units being checked on, perhaps.

[joker62]

Thank you so much ED, for this wonderful patch and for your continued hard work to improve DCS. Yes, sometimes there is a problem, but lately, after every patch I always have a great desire to fly. Thanks again.

[oCMANo]

@BIGNEWY did the WW2 AI fix for the zombie AI planes get in?  Basically they keep flying after dead.

[BIGNEWY]

1 hour ago, oCMANo said:

@BIGNEWY did the WW2 AI fix for the zombie AI planes get in?  Basically they keep flying after dead.

Yes I believe so, but please test and let me know your experience 

[Tango3B]

Nice update. It's fantastic that Currenthill's add-ons are slowly but surely making their way into DCS. It's an absolutely brilliant decision. I've also been waiting a long time for the MSI update for the Hornet and I'm glad to finally see that we're on the right track with it. DCS Afghanistan is now quite nice to look at thanks to the latest update, which gives me hope for future progress of the Iraq map. Overall, there have been some nice improvements recently, which I'll honor with the purchase of the MiG-29. Good work deserves it. With that in mind, please keep up the good work, and above all, please make sure the MiG-29 is an absolute blast upon release...

[AndrewDCS2005]

Two questions on F/A-18C MSI please

1. release notes mentions AWACS - shouldn't all donors on TNDL network provide tracks for MSI? Is this coming in the future?

2. great transparency with known issues, but wouldn't it be better to complete the MSI with quality even if it takes another 3+ months? What is the reason to push it out now?

[TOViper]

7 hours ago, virgo47 said:

Cargo. Internal cargo support added for UH-1H, Mi-8 and Mi-24P What exactly does this mean? Is it related to this thread?

Open up the comms menu, open Ground Crew ... , select Rearm & Refuel. Then in the lower left lower corner of the GUI you see the Cargo button for loading, and on the right lower corner of the GUI you see the Cargo button unloading, considering you are in the vicinity of cargos (Static objects -> Cargos).

Edited 10 hours ago by TOViper

[Tango3B]

41 minutes ago, AndrewDCS2005 said:

1. release notes mentions AWACS - shouldn't all donors on TNDL network provide tracks for MSI? Is this coming in the future?

I believe so, yes. That is also my understanding of the overall system. But we will see in a future video where exactly ED is going with this...

[Devil 505]

@BIGNEWY Were you gents able to fix the cursor not working in the super carrier in VR from the Air Boss station? 

[Hotdognz]

Thanks for the update and the Currenthill assets I also might start flying Afghanistan again.

However no fix again for the CH47 CDU issues, this is the second patch that has not included a fix for this annoying bug

[BIGNEWY]

7 hours ago, Devil 505 said:

@BIGNEWY Were you gents able to fix the cursor not working in the super carrier in VR from the Air Boss station? 

No but I have bumped the report internally. 

thank you 

5 hours ago, Hotdognz said:

Thanks for the update and the Currenthill assets I also might start flying Afghanistan again.

However no fix again for the CH47 CDU issues, this is the second patch that has not included a fix for this annoying bug

Hi, 

CDU work will take a little more time sorry. 

[Hotdognz]

Thank you for replying 

[Vakarian]

@BIGNEWY Now that we have dynamic cargo for all helos, are there plans (hopefully for the near future) for cargo to have at least semi realistic values?

Meaning, one ammo crate transportable by Huey can't realistically fit 100 AMRAAMs inside nor should the weight be the same if we transport 1 missile or 100, but that's what we have right now. If it could be adjusted, that would be really welcome change.

Main reason I'm asking is C-130 that's coming soon:tm: will have that capability, so is this something you are collaborating on and if not, could you? For the gameplay purposes it ofc doesn't have to be 100% realistic, but at least adjusting the transported cargo weight to account for what are we actually transporting would be a huge change and will bring the whole cargo gameplay loop closer to the sense of reality.

 

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

13 minutes ago, Vakarian said:

Meaning, one ammo crate transportable by Huey can't realistically fit 100 AMRAAMs inside

Time lord technology

[BIGNEWY]

24 minutes ago, Vakarian said:

@BIGNEWY Now that we have dynamic cargo for all helos, are there plans (hopefully for the near future) for cargo to have at least semi realistic values?

Meaning, one ammo crate transportable by Huey can't realistically fit 100 AMRAAMs inside nor should the weight be the same if we transport 1 missile or 100, but that's what we have right now. If it could be adjusted, that would be really welcome change.

Main reason I'm asking is C-130 that's coming soon:tm: will have that capability, so is this something you are collaborating on and if not, could you? For the gameplay purposes it ofc doesn't have to be 100% realistic, but at least adjusting the transported cargo weight to account for what are we actually transporting would be a huge change and will bring the whole cargo gameplay loop closer to the sense of reality.

 

Hi, 

we still have some work to do for logistics and cargo, and the dynamic spawned cargo will get more refinement. 

However I will say that setting the contents of the cargo should be left to the mission creators choice. They may want scenarios where cargo does deliver more than it could in reality. But also if they wish to they can set realistic values and cargos contents. We have to be careful not to restrict it to much and leave the choice up to the mission creator. 

thanks 

[Vakarian]

10 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

But also if they wish to they can set realistic values and cargos contents

Mission creator can enforce this? That is a part I wasn't aware of. Can you please show me is this explained somewhere? Checked the Cargo System Guide but I haven't found anything there, only that each player can pack a dynamic cargo by himself (and there's no limitations there). 

If this is mission enforceable, or mission maker can create a set of cargos (dynamically via scripts would be golden), then yeah, I agree that there's no need to make it fully strict and 100% realistic as that will limit the creativity a bit.

Edited 1 hour ago by Vakarian

[BIGNEWY]

7 minutes ago, Vakarian said:

Mission creator can enforce this?

Yes, regular cargo in ME - static objects/cargo  - set contents of crate and manually set the weight. 

Hopefully this will happen for dynamic cargos also in the future, and of course as you mention scripts like CTLD can also do this. 

[Vakarian]

5 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

Yes, regular cargo in ME - static objects/cargo  - set contents of crate and manually set the weight. 

Hopefully this will happen for dynamic cargos also in the future, and of course as you mention scripts like CTLD can also do this. 

Ah, there's the catch. It only works for the regular static cargo, not dynamic spawned ones.

Yeah. that's the feature I'd really like to see. Ability to constrict Dynamic cargo to at least have the correct weight regarding the stuff we put in the container. Maybe it can be a toggle option somewhere in the current Dynamic cargo GUI or even better, a toggle in the Mission Settings, same as we have enforceable settings for dots, map view, turbulence...

If the checkbox is checked then the cargo weight = container + (whatHaveIAdded * quantity).
If not, just the container weight is taken into account and you can put the whole warehouse inside for all I care.