nickos86 Posted October 22 Posted October 22 Hi, In VR the new visor is extremely annoying and causing nausea because it lags just a tiny bit while being in the peripheral vision. The shading effect is great though! 3
Xtorris Posted October 22 Posted October 22 (edited) At least give us an option similar, to the show/hide Pilot Body. I had the same experience, exited the game, and promptly edited the visor file, to make the lens fully transparent. Edited October 22 by Xtorris 2
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted October 22 Posted October 22 To not show the borders? You mean when it’s flipped up? I’m pretty sure that IRL you’d see the borders too, looking at what it looks like in external view. 2 Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 24H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
Gryzor Posted October 22 Posted October 22 please dont show the helmet borders or give us an option! like F-15E or M-2000C visor effect, which is SUPERB. In addition it degrades performance in VR nearly about 1 ms MORE.... 20 minutes ago, Xtorris said: At least give us an option similar, to the show/hide Pilot Body. I had the same experience, exited the game, and promptly edited the visor file, to make the lens fully transparent. How did you do that? can you share which file or lines did you edited? 2
szymixzmb Posted October 23 Posted October 23 I am very happy with the current solution but if somebody wants an option I am fine with it if it's not changing the current one 2
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted October 23 Posted October 23 Yes the current implementation is brilliant, just like in the Mirage F1 and new MiG-29, unlike the (better than nothing but fake) effects other modules with visors use (Mirage 2000, F-15E, MiG-21, OH-58). It’s what the community has been asking for for the last 7 years 2 Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 24H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
Linx Posted October 23 Posted October 23 (edited) Yes, please give an option to hide it. It is nauseating in VR 10 hours ago, Xtorris said: At least give us an option similar, to the show/hide Pilot Body. I had the same experience, exited the game, and promptly edited the visor file, to make the lens fully transparent. Can you please share how you made it transparent? Edited October 23 by Linx
nickos86 Posted October 23 Author Posted October 23 5 hours ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said: Yes the current implementation is brilliant, just like in the Mirage F1 and new MiG-29, unlike the (better than nothing but fake) effects other modules with visors use (Mirage 2000, F-15E, MiG-21, OH-58). It’s what the community has been asking for for the last 7 years Why argue?! Just read the topic name. I've asked for the option for the user to decide on his own... I didn't ask to completely remove the current implementation. For some the current implementation in VR makes the flight very unpleasant. Nothing to do with real life or whatever. PC and VR got limitations. 2
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted October 23 Posted October 23 17 minutes ago, nickos86 said: Why argue?! I'm not 17 minutes ago, nickos86 said: Just read the topic name I did 17 minutes ago, nickos86 said: I've asked for the option for the user to decide on his own Yes that's fine: IRL there apparently were clear visors for the JHMC too. But the default pilot model is using the dark one. 3 hours ago, Linx said: It is nauseating in VR How so? And which gamma are you using? For me, it is nauseating to *not* have it in VR, if you're using the default gamma 2.2. Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 24H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
Gryzor Posted October 23 Posted October 23 6 hours ago, nickos86 said: Why argue?! Just read the topic name. I've asked for the option for the user to decide on his own... I didn't ask to completely remove the current implementation. For some the current implementation in VR makes the flight very unpleasant. Nothing to do with real life or whatever. PC and VR got limitations. I completely support this request. For many VR users, the new visor borders cause discomfort, nausea, and even vomiting after a short period of use. This is not a matter of realism or personal preference — it’s a health and accessibility issue, and should therefore be treated as a priority. Please make it optional, just like the “Show Pilot Body” option. Players shouldn’t have to modify game files to protect their well-being.
fagulha Posted October 24 Posted October 24 (edited) On 10/23/2025 at 6:55 PM, Gryzor said: I completely support this request. For many VR users, the new visor borders cause discomfort, nausea, and even vomiting after a short period of use. This is not a matter of realism or personal preference — it’s a health and accessibility issue, and should therefore be treated as a priority. Please make it optional, just like the “Show Pilot Body” option. Players shouldn’t have to modify game files to protect their well-being. Indeed. The nose gap is worse to ignore than the visor borders. I can´t fly like this, it´s not confortable/functional. I know the intention was good and i was one of the users that requested this for a long time, and a lot of work was made but i think it was not the best idea for VR users. Anyone knows what .lua file to edit so i can remove the borders or at least hide the nose gap? Thank you. PS: Valve Index user and flying the Hornet and Viper. Edited October 24 by fagulha Typo. About carrier ops: "The younger pilots are still quite capable of holding their heads forward against the forces. The older ones have been doing this too long and know better; sore necks make for poor sleep.' PC: 14th I7 14700KF 5.6ghz With Thermal Grizzly CPU Frame | 64GB RAM DDR5 5200 CL40 XMP | Gigabyte RTX 4080 Super Aero OC 16 GB RAM GDDR6X | Thermalright Notte 360 RGB | PSU Thermaltake Tough Power GF A3 Snow 1050W ATX 3.0 PCIE 5.0 / 1 WD SN770 1TB M.2 NVME + 1 SSD M.2 2TB + 2x SSD SATA 500GB + 1 Samsung 990 PRO 4TB M.2 NVME (DCS only) | Valve Index| Andre´s JeatSeat.
Ala12Rv-Tundra Posted October 24 Posted October 24 Interestingly enough, the new visor is not an issue to me. Maybe IPD setting is a factor? Our own eyesight? headset resolution? mine is a very old Rift S. 1 i5 8400 | 32 Gb RAM | RTX 2080Ti | Virpil Mongoose T-50 base w/ Warthog & Hornet sticks | Warthog throttle | Cougar throttle USB | Orion 2 throttle base w/ Viper & Hornet grips| VKB T-Rudder Mk IV | Oculus Rift S | Buddy-Fox A-10 UFC | 2x TM MFDs & 1x WW DDI | 2x Bass shakers | SIMple SIMpit chair | WW TakeOff panel | Andre JetSeat | WW Hornet UFC | WW Viper ICP FC3 - Warthog - F-5E - Harrier - NTTR - Hornet - Tomcat - Huey - Viper - C-101 - PG - Hip - SuperCarrier - Syria - Warthog II - Hind - South Atlantic - Sinai - Strike Eagle - Phantom - Mirage F1 - Afghanistan - Irak
fagulha Posted October 24 Posted October 24 4 minutes ago, Ala12Rv-Tundra said: Interestingly enough, the new visor is not an issue to me. Maybe IPD setting is a factor? Our own eyesight? headset resolution? mine is a very old Rift S. I don´t know to be honest, probably the FOV of the VR headset (130º in my case). I just want to be able to disable it or at least mitigate it somehow. About carrier ops: "The younger pilots are still quite capable of holding their heads forward against the forces. The older ones have been doing this too long and know better; sore necks make for poor sleep.' PC: 14th I7 14700KF 5.6ghz With Thermal Grizzly CPU Frame | 64GB RAM DDR5 5200 CL40 XMP | Gigabyte RTX 4080 Super Aero OC 16 GB RAM GDDR6X | Thermalright Notte 360 RGB | PSU Thermaltake Tough Power GF A3 Snow 1050W ATX 3.0 PCIE 5.0 / 1 WD SN770 1TB M.2 NVME + 1 SSD M.2 2TB + 2x SSD SATA 500GB + 1 Samsung 990 PRO 4TB M.2 NVME (DCS only) | Valve Index| Andre´s JeatSeat.
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted October 24 Posted October 24 (edited) 10 hours ago, Ala12Rv-Tundra said: Maybe IPD setting is a factor That’s actually a good point: it seems many people change that setting in the DCS VR tab (personally I leave it unticked). *edit* Nope, IPD doesn't affect this: I tried it with both 55 and 75 forced, and the visor still renders correctly on my end. Edited Saturday at 08:30 AM by Raven (Elysian Angel) 1 Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 24H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
mmike87 Posted Saturday at 10:38 AM Posted Saturday at 10:38 AM I assume editing the LUA file for the visor breaks IC?
fagulha Posted Saturday at 02:31 PM Posted Saturday at 02:31 PM On 10/22/2025 at 11:16 PM, Gryzor said: please dont show the helmet borders or give us an option! like F-15E or M-2000C visor effect, which is SUPERB. In addition it degrades performance in VR nearly about 1 ms MORE.... How did you do that? can you share which file or lines did you edited? I tested and yes it degrades +- 2 ms of Frametime. About carrier ops: "The younger pilots are still quite capable of holding their heads forward against the forces. The older ones have been doing this too long and know better; sore necks make for poor sleep.' PC: 14th I7 14700KF 5.6ghz With Thermal Grizzly CPU Frame | 64GB RAM DDR5 5200 CL40 XMP | Gigabyte RTX 4080 Super Aero OC 16 GB RAM GDDR6X | Thermalright Notte 360 RGB | PSU Thermaltake Tough Power GF A3 Snow 1050W ATX 3.0 PCIE 5.0 / 1 WD SN770 1TB M.2 NVME + 1 SSD M.2 2TB + 2x SSD SATA 500GB + 1 Samsung 990 PRO 4TB M.2 NVME (DCS only) | Valve Index| Andre´s JeatSeat.
f14billy Posted Tuesday at 01:14 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:14 PM On 10/22/2025 at 4:57 PM, Xtorris said: At least give us an option similar, to the show/hide Pilot Body. I had the same experience, exited the game, and promptly edited the visor file, to make the lens fully transparent. Which file did you edit? Can you share it? Thank you
Dawgboy Posted Wednesday at 09:11 PM Posted Wednesday at 09:11 PM +1 The Viper is my main combat platform in DCS. It's completely unusable to me since flying with the new visor and the helmet mount above my right eye makes me extremely nauseous. The only reset is a forced nap to reset my brain. Sigh. Make it optional to revert to seeing nothing, before the last major update, please. Thanks. 1 The only time you have too much fuel is when you're on fire. ============================= AMD 9950X3D CPU, 96Gb RAM / NVIDIA 5090 / SSD only / VKB STECS Mini+ Throttle / TM Warthog FCS / MFG Rudder Pedals / Physical Cockpit / TrackIR or VR Pimax Super Ultrawide / Win11 Pro 64bit //
Mk1_Trebuchet Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) Yea, some of us need a way to keep it completely off. I suddenly found myself having strange artifacts on the left and right of my triple monitor set up in the Viper..... I spent HOURS trying to figure out if it was something with the Winwing MFD config, or maybe reshade.... Turns out that the visor is down by default, and only rendered to about 49 degrees FOV, so with the triple monitors, there were 2 light bars on either side. And the thing that was driving me nuts was that it stayed like a fixed window hanging in space when zooming the view (attaching what it looked like from the widest zoom). ***Can anyone point me to the Visor config file, I want to mod it transparent until someone puts a config option in.*** Edited 5 hours ago by Mk1_Trebuchet Asrock X870E Nova - AMD 9800x3d - RTX 4090 - 64GB DDR5 - (2x) Crucial T705 - Varjo Aero
swartbyron Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, Mk1_Trebuchet said: Yea, some of us need a way to keep it completely off. I suddenly found myself having strange artifacts on the left and right of my triple monitor set up in the Viper..... I spent HOURS trying to figure out if it was something with the Winwing MFD config, or maybe reshade.... Turns out that the visor is down by default, and only rendered to about 49 degrees FOV, so with the triple monitors, there were 2 light bars on either side. And the thing that was driving me nuts was that it stayed like a fixed window hanging in space when zooming the view (attaching what it looked like from the widest zoom). ***Can anyone point me to the Visor config file, I want to mod it transparent until someone puts a config option in.*** I've included a transparent option in this mod. It will break IC unfortunatly but give it a try and see if it works for you. F-16C Visor Cleaner
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