Patch Destroys Performance

[vortex360]

The game is all choppy now. The mountains in the distance flicker now. I used to cram this game with enemy and allies but now I can't. The game is unplayable. I applied the patch over the 1.0.1 and I tried it the other way also by uninstalling and then applying it over the 1.0. This game used to rock but now thanks to the "new sound engine" I'm done with this. Flaming Cliffs 2 runs perfect but this game now is total garbage. All the work getting the medals and learning everything about this game, not to mention the money invested and now I get to uninstall it for good. This is the worst patch I've ever seen in my entire life. I thought these patches were made to "improve" the game not destroy it.

[c0ff]

Yep, man.

For months, in our secret underground lair, we carefully crafted the so-called patch to destroy your gameplay.

 

To be serious, though, you say it became choppy (fps stutter?, or low fps), moutains do flicker (ati/nvidia? driver?) and all thanks to the "new sound engine" (???). Please, elaborate. We can't troubleshoot over mind-link yet.

[BKLronin]

Or he smoked too much :P

[ZaltysZ]

Who is forcing you to install this patch? :)

[Frederf]

Patching to 1.02 reset A LOT of my DCS settings. It's worth it to check through all of them to try and have it how it was before the patch. Sound of ATi Catalyst AI might be to blame.

 

Nothing changed too drastically in the patch performance-wise that I know of so we should be able to get you back to the old levels of performance with some sleuthing.

[EtherealN]

One further note: if the "new sound engine" turned everything to garbage, how come FC2 runs nice when that's where DCS:BS 1.0.2 got it's new sound engine from? ;)

 

Seriously, lots of things can affect performance, and any performance tweaks and such you may have done will be reset with a fresh install. Just look through them and feel free to open a thread in the Problems and Bugs section if you want help sorting out your framerate and/or stutter issues and flickers and so on.

[Distiler]

Dramallama!

 

Take into account that perhaps you nvidia/ati videographics profile doesen't work anymore because the executable is not dcs.exe anymore, but simulator.exe, also the patch has changed.

[vortex360]

Yep, man.

For months, in our secret underground lair, we carefully crafted the so-called patch to destroy your gameplay.QUOTE]

 

No you did it inadvertantly. Then you slam posters who criticize the patch, even suggesting that it is a matter that can be corrected with "troubleshooting".

[Bucic]

Or he smoked too much :P

Definitely. Even proficient and experienced with DCS troubleshooting/configs players usually won't choose to start with accusations rather than polite questions and yet you chose the first path. There's nothing preventing you from dropping the path and starting to provide some details. First check out what Frederf and Distiler said and report back.

Edited May 15, 2010 by Bucic

[winz]

The mountains in the distance flicker now.

You got nocloudshadow mod installed? I know that clouds shadow were really killing my performance with forced AA + AF.

[bengo]

Vortex,

 

try and Alt-tab out of the game and then go back in.

On my favourit "Convoy Hunt"-mission I get low (11-17 ) fps but as soon as I Alt-tab out and get back in I'm in my usual mid 40's.

 

The language thing bothers me a bit, as I can't understand the contacts my wingie is calling as I send him on recon. I don't understand when and if he's calling SAM launches, so I've got no idea where to look. I know the subtitles are in the top-left corner, but audible -warning works faster. Can I fix this by rebuilding this mission and assigning the Shark to an English speaking country ? Hell, I can't even understand the orders I'm giving myself !:smilewink:

I do like the new sound.:thumbup:

And I'm sure there's enough other stuff under the hood that I'll discover and appreciate later.

Thanks ED.

Edited May 15, 2010 by bengo

[c0ff]

Dear vortex360, there's no way I wanted to "slam" you and your problems.

Just thought a good joke can cheer you up. Sorry, if it turned out to be as broken as the the patch.

 

Nonetheless, I still hope your issues may be corrected with "troubleshooting", if you want.

[dburne]

As someone previously mentioned, the executable does change, so if you are running a program like Nhancer for Nvidia cards with a profile for Black Shark, you will need to add the new executable to the profile - simulator.exe

 

Hope you get things sorted either way,

[G3]

and you mention a reinstall of the game so maybe your settings are to HIGH :)

[Scooternutz]

I updated the simulator.exe in my Nvidia control panel...Good-ta-goa! I have higher FPS and I am fine with that. I lost my multi-monitors but after flying with my buds in the 104th server last night - whatever, if I get them back great if not I love flying together. NOTE: Black virtual panel still works. Just had to reinstall the export lau files.

I do get the mountain flicker, how can I get rid of that? I know it has been done but I just don't feel like doing a search. I am lazy and I am drinking my first cup of joe.

[PedroTheGoat]

You got nocloudshadow mod installed? I know that clouds shadow were really killing my performance with forced AA + AF.

 

 

I actually have had the tiniest bit of performance degradation too. I just built a new gaming rig so it tends to cope well...

 

But I wonder if my noclouds mod being broken is to blame. Hopefully modman will update soon so I can reinstall the mod. Plus, the flickering can get on my nerves a bit too.

 

Is there an alternative to turn off cloud shadows besides the modman patch?

[dburne]

I updated the simulator.exe in my Nvidia control panel...Good-ta-goa! I have higher FPS and I am fine with that. I lost my multi-monitors but after flying with my buds in the 104th server last night - whatever, if I get them back great if not I love flying together. NOTE: Black virtual panel still works. Just had to reinstall the export lau files.

I do get the mountain flicker, how can I get rid of that? I know it has been done but I just don't feel like doing a search. I am lazy and I am drinking my first cup of joe.

 

I am seeing that mountain flicker as well, I will be curious how to get rid of it as well.

[h00t74]

Mountain FLicker caused by Cloud Shadows. Use this mod to remove

 

http://www.lockonfiles.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownloaddetails&cid=239&lid=1494&ttitle=DCS_No_Cloud_Shadows_Mod#dldetails

[connos]

Actually I notice better performance after I uninstall BS delete the BS folder and then install the game and apply 1.0.2 only. Also the BS is flying way better and its more responsive. Maybe some mods ruined my game.

Edited May 15, 2010 by connos

[Paco]

All,

 

I downloaded the patch and have noticed zero drop in FPS. Maybe it's something else.

 

/r,

Paco

[Sinner6]

Sounds like a loose nut behind the keyboard...

[dburne]

I would say he is experiencing what he saw, and undoubtedly there is a reason for it - perhaps he will return and provide some feedback and get some assistance from those that are willing to help...

[lvl4f]

Hello in my case the patch only brought improvements, greatly improved in terms of FPS simulator, I can use it to High, is a wonder how it works I'm happy.

 

The new sounds are impressive, besides the helicopter is more fluid and smooth, it's great, thanks for the new patch is very good.

[martinistripes]

Yep, man.

For months, in our secret underground lair, we carefully crafted the so-called patch to destroy your gameplay.

 

To be serious, though, you say it became choppy (fps stutter?, or low fps), moutains do flicker (ati/nvidia? driver?) and all thanks to the "new sound engine" (???). Please, elaborate. We can't troubleshoot over mind-link yet.

 

Funny... and very much needed.

 

Some people have no appreciatiation for the efforts you guys make. It must be difficult to bite your tongue when posts like these surface. Looking forward to the patch when I get home later this month!

[Speed]

To be fair, there are some people who ARE having issues with the patch that go beyond graphics settings issues. But this guy is obviously smoking something :) Personally, I'm loving the patch... devastating enemy ground forces while watching enemy fighters search for me in vain is hella fun :) If only I had that air to air missile...