JCook Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 Just wondering how big the A10 flyable world is - Could I for example fly a ferry flight from a squadron's home base in the US across the Atlantic to the operations area where all the combat is taking place? That would be some pretty long and boring flying - which might include stop-overs in Greenland and several mid-air refuelings. Is something like this possible?
T.Goat Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 Nope. From the FAQ: Q: What terrain is covered? A: DCS: A-10C introduces a new map covering the area around Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada, USA. The existing Caucasus map from DCS: Black Shark and Flaming Cliffs 2 have also been expanded eastward to include the entirety of Georgia as well as terrain surrounding it, introducing several new airports and air bases in both Georgia and Russia. The entire world isn't modeled, just 2 theaters.
Eddie Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 No. At present the terrain area only consists of Georgia and an area of southern Russia. It is large enough to allow for ferry flights where either external tanks or in-flight refuelling is needed, but not both. In time and with future modules the area of individual theatres may grow, as it has in DCS:A-10C compared to Black Shark, but due to the limitations of PC hardware different terrain areas will have to remain separate theatres for the foreseeable future.
Rusty_M Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 what actually happens if you fly off the edge of the map? The world is going mad. Me? I'm doing fine! http://www.twitch.tv/rusty_the_robot https://www.youtube.com/user/RustyRobotGaming
Atomic978 Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 Well if I remember from back when lock on came out. Once you have passedthe boundaries of the map you where just flying over none detailed terrain no elevated hills. Just a flat no texture type of world until you turned around and headed back. =RvE=Atomic Alienware Area-51, Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q9400 @ 3.2GHz, 8gig Corsair XMS2 DDR2 Ram, EVGA SC GTX 570, Western Digital 1.0TB 64mb cache HD. Windows 7 Ultimate 64, Saitek X52 & Saitek Pro Peddals, TrackIR 4 Pro with Track Clip Pro. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Spartan Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 Nope. From the FAQ: Q: What terrain is covered? A: DCS: A-10C introduces a new map covering the area around Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada, USA. The existing Caucasus map from DCS: Black Shark and Flaming Cliffs 2 have also been expanded eastward to include the entirety of Georgia as well as terrain surrounding it, introducing several new airports and air bases in both Georgia and Russia. The entire world isn't modeled, just 2 theaters. with the expansion of the current Caucasus map, will the greater parts of it be modeled eg ukrain, turkey and further north into russia ? at the moment most of the area is just flat texture tiles. cheers -Corsair Obsidian 800D -Corsair H50 -Corsair 1600mhz 7-7-7-20 -Intel i7 930 @ 3.99ghz -EVGA X58 Classified -EVGA GTX480 @2 In SLI -EVGA GTX 285 Physx -Silverstone 1500 psu -Logitech G940 (retired) -TM Warthog HOTAS -42" Sony X-Series 1080P LCD -17" Dell Acc Monitor @2
Gearbox Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 A-10s are slooooow, that would be really long and boring. The book about A-10s in the gulf war has a section about the ferry flight, it sounded pretty terrible.
LiveBait Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 A-10s are slooooow, that would be really long and boring. The book about A-10s in the gulf war has a section about the ferry flight, it sounded pretty terrible. and they did it in A-10A's!! No Autopilot. :cry:
26-J39 Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 A-10s are slooooow, that would be really long and boring. The book about A-10s in the gulf war has a section about the ferry flight, it sounded pretty terrible. Just reading that atm. One pilot threw his guts up in the pit from extreme nausea, the seal in the AA refuel valve failed flooding his pit with fuel vapour.. nasty :puke:
mic1184 Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 A-10s are slooooow, that would be really long and boring. The book about A-10s in the gulf war has a section about the ferry flight, it sounded pretty terrible. i ordered that book on amazon a week ago, can't wait for it to arrive [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] MB: DFI Lanparty UT P35-T2R CPU: Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 @ 3,6 GHz @ 1,328V VGA: MSI GTX460 HAWK @ 850/1700/1000 MHz MFCD: Eizo S2231 22" S-PVA RAM: A-Data Vitesta 2 x 2048 MB @ 960 MHz FLT EQPM: Saitek X-52 Pro, TrackIR 5
Ragtop Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 It's a terrific book, really gives a great insight to the lives of Hog Drivers in the Gulf. Just got done with the Strike Eagle book by W. Smallwood too, also excellent! 476th vFG Alumni
G-TOMW Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 Just wondering how big the A10 flyable world is - Could I for example fly a ferry flight from a squadron's home base in the US across the Atlantic to the operations area where all the combat is taking place? That would be some pretty long and boring flying - which might include stop-overs in Greenland and several mid-air refuelings. Is something like this possible? I recently bought the A-10A by Iris simulation for FSX (if you have FSX anyway), I know it's not quite the same beast but you could use that for ferry flights and then fight the campaign on DCS and fly back. I'm not sure how realistic it is but there is a basic autopilot on that model which means you can at least take a break and leave the sim to fly it. Only problem is you can't air-to air very realistically on FSX.
VF31_Subsonic Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 and they did it in A-10A's!! No Autopilot. :cry: and much of it in IFR....talk about fatigue....hours of hand flown IFR while trying to keep station....then throw in a few joins with a tanker....real pros those guys are/were VF-31 Tomcatters http://www.csg-1.com/ | Discord
bogusheadbox Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 and they did it in A-10A's!! No Autopilot. :cry: Trimming is your friend. If you think that is a feat, think of the early pioneers in piston planes with rudimentary navigation that crossed entire oceans with no gps, no radar, no comms. Ahhh the sextant, not taught anymore and yet, so bloody reliable. Now that is a feat.
3poch Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 The A-10A's had similar autopilot functionality of the C's. They weren't all hand flown. The C still doesn't exactly have a true autopilot anyway!
moonshot Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 IIRC they got the autopilot in the early 90's. I'm not sure, but I don't think the autopilot was upgraded at all on the C model. (My first post! Hi everyone!) ASUS Maximus Hero IX with i7 7700K OC’d to 4.8Ghz. EVGA 1080 ti. RAM 32GB DDR4. Old Samsung 1080p TV, hopefully VR soon. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
moonshot Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 I recently bought the A-10A by Iris simulation for FSX (if you have FSX anyway), I know it's not quite the same beast but you could use that for ferry flights and then fight the campaign on DCS and fly back. I'm not sure how realistic it is but there is a basic autopilot on that model which means you can at least take a break and leave the sim to fly it. I actually do this with FSX, but with my race sims. I'll "fly" to Europe or Cali or NY from my home airport the day before I plan to "race"! Immersive!;) 1 ASUS Maximus Hero IX with i7 7700K OC’d to 4.8Ghz. EVGA 1080 ti. RAM 32GB DDR4. Old Samsung 1080p TV, hopefully VR soon. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
mic1184 Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 yeah or you could use HAWX 2 for the ferry flights :music_whistling: (i know i'm getting myself kicked from here) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] MB: DFI Lanparty UT P35-T2R CPU: Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 @ 3,6 GHz @ 1,328V VGA: MSI GTX460 HAWK @ 850/1700/1000 MHz MFCD: Eizo S2231 22" S-PVA RAM: A-Data Vitesta 2 x 2048 MB @ 960 MHz FLT EQPM: Saitek X-52 Pro, TrackIR 5
Haukka81 Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 The A-10A's had similar autopilot functionality of the C's. They weren't all hand flown. The C still doesn't exactly have a true autopilot anyway! There was no autopilot in desert strom, it' came later. Read the book A-10's in gulf war : http://www.adlibris.com/fi/product.aspx?isbn=9781574888867 Oculus CV1, Odyssey, Pimax 5k+ (i5 8400, 24gb ddr4 3000mhz, 1080Ti OC ) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
moonshot Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) HAWX = BS (And I don't mean Black Shark.) I don't remember the exact year that the A's got an autopilot, I'm pretty sure it was early 90's. I guess not before GW1. Am I correct that the autopilot wasn't upgraded with the C? Thanks for the book suggestion. I will definitely pick it up soon! Edited January 28, 2011 by moonshot ASUS Maximus Hero IX with i7 7700K OC’d to 4.8Ghz. EVGA 1080 ti. RAM 32GB DDR4. Old Samsung 1080p TV, hopefully VR soon. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
G-TOMW Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 I wrote that last night and then finished reading the Warthog book by William Smallwood (which like others on this thread I highly reccomend) and that suggests the Autopilot was to come a bit later on the A-10A so I guess it is quite realistic.
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