CCRP Loft (Toss) Bombing

[Lonecrow66]

There should be no need to slew the mav. Make the target SPI through the TGP and switch to the mav, you might have to slave it to the SPI but once doing so just press TMS Up Short and it will try and lock, if it doesn't lock just try the button again. No need to start slewing and trying to keep it on target to get the lock.

 

If you want a video for better explanation I think Tiger from the 104th did one.

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

Thanks I've usually marked the targets then china hat forward long, then switch to mavericks but it would never launch I'd have to slew. I never knew about having to hit TMS up short. I'll try that tonight thanks.

[Sinky]

Thanks I've usually marked the targets then china hat forward long, then switch to mavericks but it would never launch I'd have to slew. I never knew about having to hit TMS up short. I'll try that tonight thanks.

 

No problem, I was frustrated till I found out about it.

[zangler]

i toss GBUs using CCIP...get nearly another 2NM if you are around 20,000ft and pull to 40ish degrees out of the dive. altitude is important so that you can maintain laser lock, but you can get very crazy on the angles and approaches if you have someone else providing the laser.

 

have even ripple released several with an AFAC serving as laser and all track quite well.

[EtherealN]

...or you go JDAM and don't need a laser. :P

 

1 - Mark targets as markpoints.

2 - Switch to markpoint one, set SPI

3 - Release JDAM

4 - Switch to markpoint two, set SPI

5 - Release JDAM

 

...etc. No laser required, and if you carry two types of JDAM you can release 6 precision munitions in as many seconds and then turn home. :P

[159th_Viper]

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1 - Mark targets as markpoints.

2 - Switch to markpoint one, set SPI

3 - Release JDAM

4 - Switch to markpoint two, set SPI

5 - Release JDAM

 

Just to clarify and avoid possible PEBCAK :P errors:

 

Once you mark targets as markpoints, setting the Steerpoint dial to Mark automatically sets the markpoints as SPI - no need to set as SPI again once markpoints are selected/toggled.

[Galwran]

Thanks I've usually marked the targets then china hat forward long, then switch to mavericks but it would never launch I'd have to slew. I never knew about having to hit TMS up short. I'll try that tonight thanks.

 

 

 

Yeah, you have to press TMS UP SHORT multiple times to get a lock. You do not have to slew the mav unless you want to change the target.

[Lonecrow66]

...or you go JDAM and don't need a laser. :P

 

1 - Mark targets as markpoints.

2 - Switch to markpoint one, set SPI

3 - Release JDAM

4 - Switch to markpoint two, set SPI

5 - Release JDAM

 

...etc. No laser required, and if you carry two types of JDAM you can release 6 precision munitions in as many seconds and then turn home. :P

 

One thing never taken into account here is that we can load up whatever we want in a campaign. Shouldn't there be requirements to use certain things and we actually have a "store" of limited munitions?

 

I'd say early in the campaign there should be a lot available but as the campaign goes on you have to really be choosy not to use up all the JDAMs early etc. They are the most expensive!

[EtherealN]

Well, you have to have a rediculously massive war to drain those stocks, AFAIK. Look at the numbers of munitions dropped during Allied Force, Iraqi Freedom and so on...

 

Tweaking weapon availability for missions is certainly on my own wishlist, though.

 

JDAM's aren't as expensive as you think though. ~20k dollars per kit, and something like a thousand dollars or less for the bomb itself.

 

AGM-65D costs about 160k dollars. 1150 rounds of GAU-8 ammo is about 40k dollars.

[Sinky]

Thanks I've usually marked the targets then china hat forward long, then switch to mavericks but it would never launch I'd have to slew. I never knew about having to hit TMS up short. I'll try that tonight thanks.

 

One nice feature I forgot to mention is if the vehicle is on the move and you point lock it with the TGP then switch to the mav, the maverick will track the target on the move, even without a lock.

[Garfieldo]

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setting the Steerpoint dial to Mark automatically sets the markpoints as SPI

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Cool, didn't know that particular part. Thanks!

[Lonecrow66]

Well, you have to have a rediculously massive war to drain those stocks, AFAIK. Look at the numbers of munitions dropped during Allied Force, Iraqi Freedom and so on...

 

Tweaking weapon availability for missions is certainly on my own wishlist, though.

 

JDAM's aren't as expensive as you think though. ~20k dollars per kit, and something like a thousand dollars or less for the bomb itself.

 

AGM-65D costs about 160k dollars. 1150 rounds of GAU-8 ammo is about 40k dollars.

 

Yeah that is cheap... considering the old Phoenix missile used to be a million dollars a shot..

[GGTharos]

... and was never used against a $15000 truck ...

[GhostDog]

... and was never used against a $15000 truck ...

 

:lol: No one ever said warfare was rational.

[mic1184]

maybe ED could implement a money system. like you get paid after each mission depending on it's success. you could earn further money by selling interviews to the press or playing poker at the o-club after the missions.

 

then you have to buy your ordnance before missions. in between missions you can take the UAZ for a ride, drive through the streets of batumi and buy apartments or fancy clothes. even a hotdog in case you were hurt.

[Peyoteros]

In other words you're suggesting to convert best military sim in to the arcade mambo jambo? Right? :huh: Also add the demage point system (popping numbers) and spells...

Edited February 25, 2011 by Peyoteros

[tusler]

maybe ED could implement a money system. like you get paid after each mission depending on it's success. you could earn further money by selling interviews to the press or playing poker at the o-club after the missions.

 

then you have to buy your ordnance before missions. in between missions you can take the UAZ for a ride, drive through the streets of batumi and buy apartments or fancy clothes. even a hotdog in case you were hurt.

 

if you are interested in a reality style money based multiplayer system you need to look into DCS Mercnaries

http://dcs-mercenaries.com/

A good bunch!:thumbup:

[shagrat]

maybe ED could implement a money system. like you get paid after each mission depending on it's success. you could earn further money by selling interviews to the press or playing poker at the o-club after the missions.

 

then you have to buy your ordnance before missions. in between missions you can take the UAZ for a ride, drive through the streets of batumi and buy apartments or fancy clothes. even a hotdog in case you were hurt.

 

:megalol: ...may we add choosing a cool haircut at the local coiffeur that adds extra points when addressing the ladies in the above mentioned o-club ...ok, I guess we hear the irony in this, but honestly, I guess since pilots don't have to pay for the ordnance they drop, they may choose the most efficient?

[HTLNOR]

I am sorry bringing up this old post, but is it possible to Toss bomb the CBU-103 or the CBU-105 with the A-10C at a marked target?

 

Will it give you some standoff range when coming in low and fast?

[Eddie]

It is possible but totally pointless. Toss bombing JDAM or WCMD will give less range than a level delivery from medium/high alt. You simply can't fly fast enough in the hog to make loft bombing worthwhile.

 

Even in high performance fighters lofting JDAM/WCMD is not recommended unless it is the only option.

Edited August 16, 2012 by Eddie

[zzzspace]

For example if you have your target on the other side of a hill you can approach masked by the hill at high speed and loft it over the hill, turning back after release. That way, whatever air defence was on the other side cannot touch you - best they can hope for is to detect and engage the bomb(s).

 

There are exceptions (start 3:41 into it):

Edited August 16, 2012 by zzzspace

[WildBillKelsoe]

Lonecrow, we are telepathic