Air Refueling - Any tips?

[cichlidfan]

Is there any way to change the deadzone/curvature on the fly via a keyboard command or something? This would really help me as I feel my stick is a bit twitchy.

 

Only if you have a way to do it within the software for your stick, not from within the sim. It can be done with TMs Target software.

[andysim]

best advice I can give is not to sneeze to hard. trust me you dont want uncommanded control movements 20ft from a 100+ ton aircraft hehe

[Supersheep]

Two weeks ago I removed all curves from my axes, now I don't get those intense uncontrollable oscillations anymore.

 

From time to time I bang around, but thats due to my incompetence.

 

 

Super-

[Svend_Dellepude]

Is there any way to change the deadzone/curvature on the fly via a keyboard command or something? This would really help me as I feel my stick is a bit twitchy.

 

Take a look at this:

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1474946&postcount=1

[Rusty_M]

I always start to oscillate like crazy when near the tanker. I am fine precontact. It's only once I'm in the contact position. I don't do curves. I just need to practice more than once every few weeks (and avoid scenarios where refuelling is necessary until then)

[Sierra99]

Hello Pilots!

 

I'm having great difficultly staying connected. It's possible my hands are not steady enough....or my X52 is not as accurate as it used to be when it was new...I don't know. I just cant seem to stay connected to the tanker for me than a few seconds.

 

Does anyone have any pointers ? Anything would help.:helpsmilie:

 

Thanks.

 

One important aspect is to keep your eyes moving. I zoom back slightly from the "normal" view so the top of the center windshield is about even with the top of my monitor. This allows me to see more of the tankers wings, engines etc to judge and gauge movement.

 

Gadgets

[RoaringBones]

Anyone ever had to do a turn while refueling try staying connected during that aspect..it was a you know what!

[Humvee28]

Hooked up for the first Time (for five Seconds or so) after doing Practice on AAR for a couple of Hours now. A small Victory, but it let me makes Party now. :D

[Jona33]

Hooked up for the first Time (for five Seconds or so) after doing Practice on AAR for a couple of Hours now. A small Victory, but it let me makes Party now. :D

 

Keep going, I'm getting there but slowly.

[Humvee28]

Keep going, I'm getting there but slowly.

 

Thanks, and good Luck to you also. I have managed two and four Hooks over 5-10 Seconds in the last Trainings. That feels really good, and should be enough for today. :)

 

Biggest Mistake : That i´ve forgotten to switch the Gate back to READY after Disconnect. In the Heat of Training i simply missed it (like breathing). And after 7-10 missed Connects i saw it. Arrghh! :D

[Humvee28]

After some Hours of Training, i´ve made my first "Transfer Complete" ever.

Far far away from Professional, and with a lot of reconnects, but i´m happy with that atm. :)

FIRST TRANSFER COMPLETE!.trk

[Akheron]

If the timing in the debriefing log is accurate, I made a 49 secondes hook on my last attempt! It was my forth practice 'session'. On the first, I didn't even open the fuel door LOL frustrating one. On my second session I made 5 to 10 seconds hook. On the third, few 10 seconds and one 36 seconds. And this morning I made my 49 seconds.. after 2-3 attempts.

 

The thing I had the most difficulties in the begining was the throttle. I realize if I want to get closer I must push a little bit forward and pull back right after.. if you don't pull back throttle soon enough, you will overrun the tube.

 

I think TM HOTAS is a great help for this! The joystick is very precise and responsive.

 

..and I desactivate the Track IR, as I read it somewhere in a thread.

[Humvee28]

I think TM HOTAS is a great help for this! The joystick is very precise and responsive.

 

When my Tax Payback will aloud it, i will jump on the WH-Train too. I´m flying with a used X52 Pro atm, and there is nearly zero response in the Stick, and the Throttle got a "Gap" while moving back and forward. That makes small Movements extremly difficult.

[GripenNG]

Jupp the TM HOTAS is my next buy also!

 

I´ve just got a well paid job - so in a month I´m hopefully in the TM-club aswell. Can´t wait since I now fly with the Logitech X3D :cry:

 

I have no problems with flying smoothly with it...but the "throttle" should be banned from this earth!

[Svend_Dellepude]

maybe you guys want to take a look here?

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=89592

[Settingz85]

I tried refueling last night and realized, that the Tanker has several lights under his fuselage. I believe they exist to lead me into the right position for refueling.

But im still unsure how they Work in detail. Couldnt find anything in the Manual about this and i dont know if it has been asked before (there are 240 posts so far and i couldnt read them all) but does anybody know what these lights exactly mean?

[Eddie]

They refer to your position forward/aft and up/down of the proper position. But they are mainly intended for use by large aircraft such as bombers and are of no use in the A-10, if you're in the correct position you won't even be able to see them.

[PeterP]

have a look at this:

 

 

Now you know why this lights are there - some pilots (F16) have to use the lights to know that they are in good position - they simply cant see the refuelling boom.

[GGTharos]

You won't be able to see them with the boom in your face anyway.

 

The trick is visual references from the tanker. Don't stare at the boom, just hook up, check the image - ie. where are the engines, the wings, the elevators compared to say your canopy, and some of your canopy features?

 

In the future, always match these visual references and you will always be flying in position. This is the very basis of formation flying.

 

Forget all the other do-hickeys.

 

I tried refueling last night and realized, that the Tanker has several lights under his fuselage. I believe they exist to lead me into the right position for refueling.

But im still unsure how they Work in detail. Couldnt find anything in the Manual about this and i dont know if it has been asked before (there are 240 posts so far and i couldnt read them all) but does anybody know what these lights exactly mean?

[darkrei9n]

I've recently noticed when pulling up to the tanker and being completely stable with the boom right there in near perfect position that it refuses to be connected. Is this is an annoying bug or something? I've F2'd and the boom is right there in the hole and not considered in.

[ivanwfr]

Could be this: (only a suggestion - from the manual):

 

Aerial Refueling

Contact

(...)

4. For successive contacts, you must cycle the aerial refuel system by pressing the refuel/reset button (Nosewheel Steering button) or closing and opening the slipway door.

[Mar044]

dont chase the boom,and under the belly of the tank is lights also to guide you under the pilot area in case peope didnt know.

[darkrei9n]

Could be this: (only a suggestion - from the manual):

 

Aerial Refueling

Contact

(...)

4. For successive contacts, you must cycle the aerial refuel system by pressing the refuel/reset button (Nosewheel Steering button) or closing and opening the slipway door.

 

Yep this was the problem. It explains greatly why my first contact with the tanker would go so well, but I would never be able to get it back in afterwards.