Chrisakky Posted May 28, 2011 Posted May 28, 2011 (edited) I was just watching this video and it got me thinking..... I'f the next DCS module is the F/A 18, look at 1:03, you can see that the refuel boom is tucked away and there's a female Probe-and-drogue coming out of the tanker. Does the F/A 18 have a way to have a female receiver, or will ED have to change it's refuelling method, and create a KC-10 model? Food for thought.:idea: Edit: And you can see here also.... Edited May 30, 2011 by Chrisakky YouTube channel
effte Posted May 28, 2011 Posted May 28, 2011 The Navy is all probe and drogue. Tricky to fit a boom to anything which can fly off a carrier. ----- Introduction to UTM/MGRS - Trying to get your head around what trim is, how it works and how to use it? - DCS helos vs the real world.
hog_driver111th Posted May 29, 2011 Posted May 29, 2011 If they stayed with the KC-135, maybe they could make 2 different models. Nice thing about the KC-10 is that it has both the boom and drogue. A-10C - FC3 - CA - L-39 - UH1 - P-51 - Hawk - BS2 - F-86 - Gazelle - F-5E - AV8B - F/A-18C i5-4590 - GTX 1060 - Oculus CV1 - TM:Warthog [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic9979_1.gif[/sIGPIC]
joey45 Posted May 29, 2011 Posted May 29, 2011 Good vids. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
159th_Falcon Posted May 29, 2011 Posted May 29, 2011 Look closely on the first video @ ~ 1:40 There you can see the normal boom we know from A10C is still there but retracted. Maybe the KC-135 can take both boom and net on a flight and deploy each as required? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The keeper of all mathematical knowledge and the oracle of flight modeling.:)
Chrisakky Posted May 29, 2011 Author Posted May 29, 2011 Look closely on the first video @ ~ 1:40 There you can see the normal boom we know from A10C is still there but retracted. Maybe the KC-135 can take both boom and net on a flight and deploy each as required? That's a KC-10 at that part... it has the capability to extend the boom or the probe and drogue... however the KC-135 can only use the boom, with a probe and drogue attachment (as seen on the second video). That's the problem.... will ED have to make a KC-10 model and re-think it's refuel procedures or just add the attachment and think of a way to justify aircraft with the female receptor, refuelling on a tanker that has already refuelled a F/A 18 with the probe and drogue attachment, making the normal boom inoperable? YouTube channel
159th_Falcon Posted May 29, 2011 Posted May 29, 2011 Oops, not to familiar whit those big aircraft. Interesting question, personally i wouldn't mind ED modeling an KC-10, variety is good. On the other hand, there's already lots of planes that are in dire need of a decent remake.... (C-17 for example) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The keeper of all mathematical knowledge and the oracle of flight modeling.:)
Chrisakky Posted May 29, 2011 Author Posted May 29, 2011 Oops, not to familiar whit those big aircraft. Interesting question, personally i wouldn't mind ED modeling an KC-10, variety is good. On the other hand, there's already lots of planes that are in dire need of a decent remake.... (C-17 for example) I'd rather ED put time into new AI aircraft (the Typhoon for example) than fix these old models that I never really see in missions. But can't hurt I'f ED find the time.... I'd like to see the KC-10 so that we can refuel with the F/A 18, and I can't wait to be asked weather my aircraft is male or female :lol: YouTube channel
Zakatak Posted June 27, 2011 Posted June 27, 2011 Not really related, but I just realized why they call the refuel system either "male or female". :D <childish giggles>
Chrisakky Posted June 27, 2011 Author Posted June 27, 2011 Not really related, but I just realized why they call the refuel system either "male or female". :D <childish giggles> Tanker: Bravo Charley Rodger, this is tanker, are you male or female? Pilot: [Women's voice] Tanker, this is Bravo Charley Rodger, Male. Tanker: I won't go on any late nights with you then! :P :D YouTube channel
Avilator Posted June 27, 2011 Posted June 27, 2011 That's a KC-10 at that part... it has the capability to extend the boom or the probe and drogue... however the KC-135 can only use the boom, with a probe and drogue attachment (as seen on the second video). That's the problem.... will ED have to make a KC-10 model and re-think it's refuel procedures or just add the attachment and think of a way to justify aircraft with the female receptor, refuelling on a tanker that has already refuelled a F/A 18 with the probe and drogue attachment, making the normal boom inoperable? Maybe buddy refueling with the F-18 will be modeled? I only respond to that little mechanical voice that says "Terrain! Terrain! Pull Up! Pull Up!" Who can say what is impossible, for the dream of yesterday is the hope of today and the reality of tomorrow. -Robert Goddard "A hybrid. A car for enthusiasts of armpit hair and brown rice." -Jeremy Clarkson "I swear by my pretty floral bonet, I will end you." -Mal from Firefly
hassata Posted June 27, 2011 Posted June 27, 2011 Effing night refueling looks terrifying. Navy pilots have it hard, night refuel, then night trap. Hope ED models pushing the drogue away when you come in slow. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
MustangSally Posted June 28, 2011 Posted June 28, 2011 Or they could bring in Australia as part of the coalition then use the RAAF's KC-30's http://www.airforce.gov.au/aircraft/kc30a.aspx Ryzen 9 7950X3D - MSI MAG X670E TomaHawk MB, ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360 AIO 64gig Corsair DDR5@6000, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 AORUS Winwing Super Taurus, Orion2, TO / Combat panels, Collective with Topgun MIP Winwing Skywalker pedals, NLR Boeing Mil Edition Simpit, 55" Samsung Odyssey Ark, Trackir
mvsgas Posted June 28, 2011 Posted June 28, 2011 (edited) KC-135 can have both the USAF boom system or the USN probe. New models of the 135 carry pods on the wing to refuel using the drogue/probe systems. If the boom is modified ( adapter installed) then it can only be used for drogue/probe during that flight. Edited June 28, 2011 by mvsgas To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Chrisakky Posted June 28, 2011 Author Posted June 28, 2011 KC-135 can have both the USAF boom system or the USN probe. New models of the 135 carry pods on the wing to refuel using the drogue/probe systems. If the boom is modified ( adapter installed) then it can only be used for drogue/probe during that flight. So you going to update and stick with the 135? Or make a KC-10 model? or has the current KC-135's in-game already got the abillity of those pods? YouTube channel
macedk Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 Dcs is going make a f-18 tanker edition and make it human controlled...why ?..because they can and they rock ;) OS: Win10 home 64bit*MB: Asus Strix Z270F/ CPU: Intel I7 7700k /Ram:32gb_ddr4 GFX: Nvidia Asus 1080 8Gb Mon: Asus vg2448qe 24" Disk: SSD Stick: TM Warthog #1400/Saitek pro pedals/TIR5/TM MFDs [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Impact Posted July 1, 2011 Posted July 1, 2011 Dcs is going make a f-18 tanker edition and make it human controlled...why ?..because they can and they rock ;) DCS means Digtal Combat Simulator, and the developers are called Eagle Dynamics. ------=:: I FLY BLEIFREI ::=------
FunktasticLucky Posted September 17, 2011 Posted September 17, 2011 Those pods are called MPRS Pods. Multi Point Refueling System. They suck. I'm a crew chief on a KC-135 Tanker. These Pods are heavy and cause a lot of stress on the wings. Which causes leaks in the production break (the place where the wingtip bolts on) right after the outboard engines. But that's just some useless knowledge for you guys. As for the F-18's, Most navy and marines aren't soft basket qualified. They hate them actually. So most of the times we have to put drogues on the boom and fly them out. I could tell you stories about the MPRS though ahah. Like when the chain breaks inside the pod and the hose just trails out and lets go haha. Then you get a random farmer load the 55 ft hose and basket up into his truck and bring it back to your deployed base ahha. These jets need to be replaced haha. 55 years and counting :)
walker450 Posted September 19, 2011 Posted September 19, 2011 Thanks for the info Lucky! So "soft basket" is where the pods are used? If the next series is in fact DCS:Hornet, I really really hope they allow 18 to 18 refueling!! Speedpad for Inputs | My Simpit | Joystick Damper Mod
FunktasticLucky Posted September 22, 2011 Posted September 22, 2011 Walker, the Pods use soft baskets yes. They are called soft basket because they have metal "fingers" that spread out. They are just Metal bars basically. They are all tied together with Fabric that when the wind catches them, it stretches out into the basket but when it gets reeled back into the pod it collapses.
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Spetz Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 Buddy refuelling would be fun if the next A/C was capable of it..
manfrez01 Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 Buddy refuelling would be fun if the next A/C was capable of it.. +1 :D excellent idea [sIGPIC]http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/7877/72368977.jpg[/sIGPIC]
Rider1 Posted November 14, 2011 Posted November 14, 2011 I have a Book Called "Iron Claw" by Sherman Baldwin as a nugget Prowler pilot in the first Gulf War. He goes into detail about tanking from a 135 with the boom and drogue. The Navy pilots dislike it so much they have nicknamed it the "Iron Maiden, and reference it as that or the "Maiden" throughout the book. Excellent read if you haven't already. http://www.amazon.com/Ironclaw-Sherman-Baldwin/dp/0553577484/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1321264794&sr=1-2
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