IS it Possible to Slave Maverick to TGP SPI?

[Alphamale]

Higher than you can fly.

 

DAMN!:doh:

[112th_Rossi]

A10s can do SEAD but not that well imo. Stay away from medium/long range sams unless you can confidently take them on using terrain or other ways of masking your approach.

[Eddie]

Again, no not in a leisurely setting. I mean doing all this while dodging incoming missles. :smilewink:

 

If you're having to dodge imcoming missiles you shouldn't be there in the first place. ;)

[KillaALF]

Again, no not in a leisurely setting. I mean doing all this while dodging incoming missles. :smilewink:

 

If you are engaged defensive, you break off your attack and get the hell out of dodge, you would not want to fiddle around with your Mavs while there are inbound missiles in the air.

[Alphamale]

If you are engaged defensive, you break off your attack and get the hell out of dodge, you would not want to fiddle around with your Mavs while there are inbound missiles in the air.

 

Well, in this mission, I had taken out SAM as I approached TGT and was attempting a MAV lock on ZSU when as I passed a ravine in the mountains, it unmasked a SA-15 that just started painting me, but I was in zoom mode locking the AAA, so I enabled full auto ECM and continued the lock on the AAA. I mean it WAS in the FOV and I had to take the opportunity of locking and firing. What else ya gonna do?

Edited August 25, 2011 by Alphamale

[Eddie]

What else ya gonna do?

 

Abort, defend against the threat, extend and re-asses the situation.

[Guest Fury_007]

Read my post.

 

Mav must be Sensor of Interest. TMS Up Short to aquire lock. Fury missed a stage out.

 

My bad...You are right.

[Alphamale]

Even if I had aborted, the missle was away and I was flying towards the AAA, so why not take the shot? Evasive maneuvers would still have kept me in the area at these speeds.

[Guest Fury_007]

Yeah, the problem with this is that there's no notification as to when #4 happens.

 

The MAV range is on the left side of the MAV display. I realize it doesn't scream, "Hey My seeker is in range buddy, time to lock me up!'" That is why I am constantly hitting TMS forward short until it locks up. Usually around 6-8nm. I also noticed that if you zoom in to narrow with the seeker you can usually get a lock sooner.

 

 

Don't worry about slewing the seeker if you are only going after 1 target. Lock it with the TGP so you can do it from far away.

[Alphamale]

The MAV range is on the left side of the MAV display. I realize it doesn't scream, "Hey My seeker is in range buddy, time to lock me up!'" That is why I am constantly hitting TMS forward short until it locks up. Usually around 6-8nm. I also noticed that if you zoom in to narrow with the seeker you can usually get a lock sooner.

 

 

Don't worry about slewing the seeker if you are only going after 1 target. Lock it with the TGP so you can do it from far away.

 

Yeah, I get it. But that brings up another point. When you are in CCRP mode with an IAM, you wait for the MAN/REL cue to hold down the pickle button and the ordanance releases at the optimal time, right? Your HUD text color is GREEN. With all the glancing around I'm doing, I sometimes miss that cue. BUT, if the color for that cue turned RED instead of staying GREEN, I'd definitely see that out of peripheral vision and get the button down in time. Why haven't they thought of this IRL? Also, couldn't they do this with the seeker range as well? In which case, it WOULD be screaming.

Edited August 25, 2011 by Alphamale

[Aginor]

Well, if you are far enough so you can't even see what the Mav is locked on in the narrow field of view then you are too far away to fire the maverick anyway.

I never hit the wrong target using the method stated above (what Fury wrote but also look at Rossis post), I guess you will be fine.

 

EDIT: Oh manI'm tired, I even missed this thread has four pages and answered a question from the first one.....

Edited August 25, 2011 by Aginor

[EtherealN]

Why haven't they thought of this IRL?

 

Because real pilots pay attention when setting up to deploy a weapon. :P

 

Also, couldn't they do this with the seeker range as well? In which case, it WOULD be screaming.

 

There is no such thing as "the range" of an IR or CCD AGM-65 seeker. It all depends on the target size, it's contrast to the surrounding, atmospheric conditions, temperature of target and surroundings in the case of IR seekers, so on and so forth.

 

You have an approximation through the range tape. Pay attention to it and set up your attack properly.

 

[JCav]

Even if I had aborted, the missle was away and I was flying towards the AAA, so why not take the shot? Evasive maneuvers would still have kept me in the area at these speeds.

 

Because your primary job as pilot is the safety of the aircraft, you ABORT the attack run.

 

How much good are you to the guys on the ground while floating to the earth under a parachute with the rest of your munitions you were carrying, plummeting to the ground in a burning wreck, all because you wanted to lock up one target?

[Eddie]

Your HUD text color is GREEN. With all the glancing around I'm doing, I sometimes miss that cue. BUT, if the color for that cue turned RED instead of staying GREEN

 

Because the systems used to project the HUD image only have one colour, the red colour of night mode is produced by a red filter which is drawn over the projector.

 

Oh, and all this has been thought of, as well as a lot of stuff you haven't even considered. Things are as they are in the sim because it's how they are in real life (with a few exceptions), and they are that way in real life because it was the most suitable way for things to work at the time they were designed.

 

Don't forget, the A-10, even the C model is an old aircraft. While many systems have been updated (note, updated does not necessarily mean brought up to the same level as newer aircraft), many have not.

 

And regarding your IAM example, the manual release cue is not the only symbology to inform you that you're in range, in fact it's not even the primary symbology.

[Brutal]

The Maverick will not Automatically lock when you get within its seeker range. You have to TMS forward short to get the seeker to lock as Squirrel said above. I find myself hitting it repeatedly over and over as soon as the MAV seeker is within range because I want to get the heck out of there before the SAM locks me up.

 

 

Best way to fire them:

 

1) Find target with TGP

2) Set as SPI

3) Slave all sensors to SPI

4) Wait for MAV seeker to get in range

5) lock on with MAV

6) RIFLE!

7) find another target or egress

 

 

Best description yet!

 

+1 :thumbup:

[Guest Izoul123]

Best description yet!

 

+1 :thumbup:

 

Yep I agree. The only thing I preface this attack structure with is AP to PATH on about a -5 degree dive path to keep the cams nice and steady in case I have to lock up other targets and fire on the same run. It's way to bouncy otherwise if you are quick slewing with the MAV SOI on your 2nd,3rd targets etc instead of toggling back between SOI on TGP & MAV to lock up each additional target which can take to many precious seconds. If I had a good HOTAS it might be a different....

Edited August 27, 2011 by Izoul123

[WildBillKelsoe]

To clear up confusion:

 

Your soi is the active sensor. You got 3:

HUD

TGP

TAD

 

Hud is made active by long press U and an asterisk * on it.

 

TGP made active by green in green frame in frame.

 

Long press K or H depending on TGP assignment to either MFCD

 

TAD is like TGP.

 

You can have one sensor of interest at a time.

 

Your spi is designated by THE SOI. If a SOI has your target, long press V to slew the other two to it.

 

One SoI ,remember.

[nomdeplume]

There's four sensors - you forgot MAV.

 

And to set the HUD as SOI it's a short press, not long. I think coolie hat up long is one of the quick-look options to bring up the DSMS or somesuch.

[cichlidfan]

AIM9 makes five!;)

[Sn8ke]

Another method, my preferred method, is to designate markpoints via TGP about 20 miles out, then arm mavs, and wait to get within range. Just cycle between markpoints with each engagement. I believe this is the best way because I find myself engaging multiple targets with my maverick engagement.

[159th_Viper]

Another method, my preferred method, is to designate markpoints via TGP about 20 miles out, then arm mavs, and wait to get within range. Just cycle between markpoints with each engagement. I believe this is the best way because I find myself engaging multiple targets with my maverick engagement.

 

Aye, same here. Works really well.

 

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[shonist]

Sorry everyone,

 

im having a noob problem here, and since i dont own a hotas and i dont speak native english, im having some trouble to understand the training missions.

 

the only thing im missing is HOW to mark an SPI on the TGP.

 

i do the follow:

 

1. Set my TGP as SOI on left mfcd, and the MAV on the right mfcd (no SOI of course),

2. Find my target, a tank lets say, i press (Lcontrol + UP) to set "POINT" instead of "AREA".

3. Press and HOLD "V" key,

 

and then the TGP and the MAV aims to my steering point/waypoint...

 

can anyone pls help me with this? Really aprreciated.

 

TY

[cthulhu68]

Sorry everyone,

 

1. Set my TGP as SOI on left mfcd, and the MAV on the right mfcd (no SOI of course),

2. Find my target, a tank lets say, i press (Lcontrol + UP) to set "POINT" instead of "AREA".

3. Press and HOLD "V" key,

 

and then the TGP and the MAV aims to my steering point/waypoint...

TY

After pressing (Lctrol+Up) and locking target you need to press and hold (L control+Up) to make target your SPI.

 

Pressing and holding V doesn't automatically slave to Maverick it slaves to SPI.

Edited May 30, 2017 by cthulhu68

[ZeeMan90]

Marking a SPI is TMS UP or for you: Left Ctrl+Up Arrow Key.

 

Please give it a try and report to us abouth your progress.

 

EDIT: cthulhu68 was faster^^

[cthulhu68]

It's a little confusing but look where the wedding cake symbol is on TAD to know what's SPI