What do you think about P-51D and Flying Legends?

[sorcer3r]

No, its just what I "think about P-51D and Flying Legends" (its coming at the wrong time when limited resources should be used to fix DCS issues)

;)

[PeterP]

No, its just what I "think about P-51D and Flying Legends" (its coming at the wrong time when limited resources should be used to fix DCS issues)

;)

 

Thanks you!;)

So why don't you just say it openly on the beginning ? - instead - you dragged us both in a conservation we both don't want to have!:doh::D

Edited March 7, 2012 by PeterP

[Nate--IRL--]

No, its just what I "think about P-51D and Flying Legends" (its coming at the wrong time when limited resources should be used to fix DCS issues)

;)

 

Have think about how compatibility will be achieved with the P-51.

 

Nate

[sorcer3r]

Have think about how compatibility will be achieved with the P-51.

 

Nate

 

I hope with less issues than it was with BS2 ?

[159th_Viper]

I hope with less issues than it was with BS2 ?

 

As do we all - we are however not Soothsayers. Let's return to topic now shall we.

[sorcer3r]

I dont think we were off topic. And IMO we need no soothsayers, if... ok now it could become off topic ;)

[wolf_288]

some people here seems to want some kind of sim-museum or funny flying circus and some want a P51 case a warthog for fun"FOR FUN"please try Super mario and let the fantastic and realistic aircraft dcs A-10 belong to a realistic environment.

[Jona33]

some people here seems to want some kind of sim-museum or funny flying circus and some want a P51 case a warthog for fun"FOR FUN"please try Super mario and let the fantastic and realistic aircraft dcs A-10 belong to a realistic environment.

 

For f***s sake it's been explained. YOU DON'T HAVE TO FLY THEM IN THE SAME MISSION. Now you're simply trolling. It's been explained enough.

[Luigi Gorgonzola]

Relax. Why argueing over a bunch of screenshots?

 

It's yet to be released and apart from the screenshots there is little information available from ED.

[159th_Viper]

some people here seems to want some kind of sim-museum or funny flying circus and some want a P51 case a warthog for fun"FOR FUN"please try Super mario and let the fantastic and realistic aircraft dcs A-10 belong to a realistic environment.

 

Move along now, you have made your point. A word of advice would be to, in future, think very very carefully prior to belittling the opinions of others.

[element1108]

some people here seems to want some kind of sim-museum or funny flying circus and some want a P51 case a warthog for fun"FOR FUN"please try Super mario and let the fantastic and realistic aircraft dcs A-10 belong to a realistic environment.

 

 

:megalol: That was good for a morning laugh, especially the comparison to a WWII aircraft in DCS to Mario Bros. Today is going to be a good day! :pilotfly:

[miguelaco]

No, its just what I "think about P-51D and Flying Legends" (its coming at the wrong time when limited resources should be used to fix DCS issues)

;)

 

+1 amen to that.

 

I won't buy any new product until DCS: A-10C is reasonably fixed, specially in MP.

[Bearitall]

some people here seems to want some kind of sim-museum or funny flying circus and some want a P51 case a warthog for fun"FOR FUN"please try Super mario and let the fantastic and realistic aircraft dcs A-10 belong to a realistic environment.

 

Would you like a cookie to go with you milk? :music_whistling:

[ec-swr]

DCS: P51 vs super mario bros , super mario bros of course :P :lol:

[Bearitall]

some people here seems to want some kind of sim-museum or funny flying circus and some want a P51 case a warthog for fun"FOR FUN"please try Super mario and let the fantastic and realistic aircraft dcs A-10 belong to a realistic environment.

 

Super Mario = AIM-120C-5 range > 105 km (65 miles)

No real particular skill needed...radar assisted..

 

WWII fighter = Pilot tactical skills in Dogfighting Guns only period..no missles..

 

I would tend to say the WWII Pilot's were a bit better at tactic's ..because pilots had to get alot closer to the enemy in order to shoot them down..:music_whistling:

[Rikus]

YOU DON'T HAVE TO FLY THEM IN THE SAME MISSION.

 

And in what scenary? fly over Crimea...

 

Greetings

[Jona33]

And in what scenary? fly over Crimea...

 

Greetings

 

At the moment we've got A-10's over the crimea. It ain't gonna take that much stretching of the imagination depending how far they go with period units and stuff.

[GGTharos]

No real particular skill needed...radar assisted..

 

Pssst ... not true ;)

 

WWII fighter = Pilot tactical skills in Dogfighting Guns only period..no missles..

 

I would tend to say the WWII Pilot's were a bit better at tactic's ..because pilots had to get alot closer to the enemy in order to shoot them down..:music_whistling:

That is a very incorrect notion. BVR tactics are insanely complicated in comparison to BFM -- thinking of multi, not 1v1. 1v1, just like BFM, is less complicated, but you still need basic tactics to win the fight, and you still need to do it better and smarter than the other guy. The only time that missile application requires 'no skill' is when you catch your bandit completely unaware and launch a high-Pk shot, or if he just flies right into the missile.

 

There are cases where it is not possible to escape a missile - this is exactly equivalent to going from 400kt to 120kt in someone's HUD, and showing them the top of your plane - ie. no chance of escape in BFM. I hope you get the idea :)

[Bearitall]

Pssst ... not true ;)

 

 

That is a very incorrect notion. BVR tactics are insanely complicated in comparison to BFM -- thinking of multi, not 1v1. 1v1, just like BFM, is less complicated, but you still need basic tactics to win the fight, and you still need to do it better and smarter than the other guy. The only time that missile application requires 'no skill' is when you catch your bandit completely unaware and launch a high-Pk shot, or if he just flies right into the missile.

 

There are cases where it is not possible to escape a missile - this is exactly equivalent to going from 400kt to 120kt in someone's HUD, and showing them the top of your plane - ie. no chance of escape in BFM. I hope you get the idea :)

 

Yea, I got the idea..I was just making a small point of that you could fire your missle miles away without even seeing them...whereas WWII pilots had to wait until visual contact is made..in order to go into combat mode....

[GGTharos]

That is certainly the case; BVR fighting is very different, and to some degree requires more SA and knowledge of systems as well as understanding what something that isn't your plane is doing.

 

That's why I think WW2 sims are more popular :)

[EtherealN]

Well, there is that, but WW2 sims often have an easier time feeling more "personal" - actually seeing your opponent does offer something compared to working a contact on your scopes. Though deserves to be said that while I used to be almost 100% on the WW2 camp, once I got to actually understand how BVR works a bit better I changed my attitudes. Doesn't matter if the guy's a blip on the scope when it, in your minds eye, starts translating to a mental image of the contest. Requires more work to get to that place though, in my experience, so yeah. Probably connected to that. :)

[Bearitall]

That is certainly the case; BVR fighting is very different, and to some degree requires more SA and knowledge of systems as well as understanding what something that isn't your plane is doing.

 

That's why I think WW2 sims are more popular :)

 

Can't wait to go head to head with you ..testing it out...and having fun....all the other bickering here is just " Apple & Oranges "...:music_whistling:

 

Oh my last couple of comments were meant more for Wolf...and his comments about Super Mario.....So I offered him a Cookie with his milk...

Edited March 9, 2012 by Bearitall

[sobek]

That's why I think WW2 sims are more popular :)

 

IMHO that owes a great deal to simplified flight mechanics. Flying fingertip gets a whole new dimension when every minute manipulation of the throttle demands a correction in rudder applied, lest you really ruin somebodys day. :D

[Xxx]

As I look forward to any new release from ED. Knowing that the fidelity will be there and it will be worth the cash. I couldnt help look in my old Sim/game box. I then was wondering.......

 

I appologise if this has been answered, but its central for my future happiness with the sim. Will P51-D have Europe to fly over and will it have AI from the WW 2 era?

 

I Remember happy days with this, ahh memories..................:prop:

 

 

Cheers.:thumbup:

[EtherealN]

From the FAQ (link in my signature):

 

Q: Will a world war 2 era map be included?

A: No, DCS is an open simulation environment, it is not a simulation of a specific time period.

 

Q: Will units from the world war 2 era exist, like ME-109's and Ju-87's?

A: That has yet to be determined. While we understand the desire for WW2 counterpart aircraft, DCS is not intended to be a full WW2 era simulation.