cichlidfan Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 Think its dumb you have to have the original lock on in order to play FC3.FC3 should just be one install and just have everything work from there IMHO. It's all legal stuff put in place to make sure all the litte Ubiwon's don't go hungry.;) ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
ErichVon Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 There have been a lot of questions regarding how and if FC3 will fit with DCS World. Our current intent/plan is that once you have purchased FC3 and have Lock On already installed, FC3 will be integrated directly into DCS World. As such, you have a separate FC3 icon on your DCSW main GUI page. Thanks, Matt Nice! I am loving it. DCS just gets better and better. Have a nice day :)
Rusty_M Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 Think its dumb you have to have the original lock on in order to play FC3.FC3 should just be one install and just have everything work from there IMHO. I'm sure ED would do just that if they could. It's better they do it the way they do it than not at all don't you think? The world is going mad. Me? I'm doing fine! http://www.twitch.tv/rusty_the_robot https://www.youtube.com/user/RustyRobotGaming
213 Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 imo this means the planes in fc3 will be direct ports perhaps with the updated models and more features, but clickable cockpit, no.
zaelu Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 So we just delete de content of Lomac 1.12 installation folder after FC3 is installed into DCS World... no biggie. We can backup first the content of that folder so if we want to unistall later the uninstaller does not stall cause the files were removed. Thus only the registry entries will remain in the system so UBI will be happy we bought (eons ago) "their software"... yada yada rada dada And No FC1 or FC2 will be needed as all the content and more is de facto in DCS World FC3. I got it right... right? :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least
Nate--IRL-- Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 I got it right... right? :) Yep. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
Daze Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 Is this what I will need to buy to play FC3? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] First to Fight, First to Strike.
Nate--IRL-- Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 Yes. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
92nd-MajorBug Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 As a matter of fact you already needed it for FC1 and FC2 :) (just in case) 92nd Kodiak Air Force - May the Greuh be with you
Luigi Gorgonzola Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 Is this what I will need to buy to play FC3? Alternatively, you could buy Lock On Platinum instead as it contains both LOMAC and FC/FC2. At least, I hope so as this is what I bought when I saw it in the shelve. If this shouldn't qualify for FC3 ... I think, I'd be pretty annoyed ;)
Rusty_M Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 So we just delete de content of Lomac 1.12 installation folder after FC3 is installed into DCS World... no biggie. We can backup first the content of that folder so if we want to unistall later the uninstaller does not stall cause the files were removed. Thus only the registry entries will remain in the system so UBI will be happy we bought (eons ago) "their software"... yada yada rada dada And No FC1 or FC2 will be needed as all the content and more is de facto in DCS World FC3. I got it right... right? :) If it works the same as Flaming Cliffs 2, there's no need to back up. Lock On on needs to be installed for activation of flamin cliffs. Once installed and ACTIVATED (remember to fly it at least once) you can completely uninstall the original Lick On The world is going mad. Me? I'm doing fine! http://www.twitch.tv/rusty_the_robot https://www.youtube.com/user/RustyRobotGaming
MadTommy Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 Thanks for the update.. i was kind of hoping the Flaming Cliffs aircraft would be released individually for maybe $5 each or something similar, bit like Rise of Flight... i5-3570K @ 4.5 Ghz, Asus P8Z77-V, 8 GB DDR3, 1.5GB GTX 480 (EVGA, superclocked), SSD, 2 x 1680x1050, x-fi extreme music. TM Warthog, Saitek combat pro pedals, TrackIR 4
EtherealN Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 At least, I hope so as this is what I bought when I saw it in the shelve. If this shouldn't qualify for FC3 ... I think, I'd be pretty annoyed ;) Correct. Though it is Lock On (and not FC2) that will matter for the authentication on install. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
hitman Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 Not to worry: I still have the first LockOn disk from the day before they released it, the original LockOn Gold disk, the LockOn FC download AND the original LockOn disk from LockOn Platinum. If you dont have the disk by now, then something is WRONG WITH YOU.
Wichid Posted May 6, 2012 Posted May 6, 2012 (edited) Oh god I'm going to have to find my original disk! EDIT: Crap, I have a blank cd case with the disk in it but no manual or CD key! Edited May 6, 2012 by Wichid Lyndiman AMD Ryzen 3600 / RTX 2070 Super / 32G Ram / Win10 / TrackIR 5 Pro / Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals
Rikus Posted May 6, 2012 Posted May 6, 2012 Do you think, with the creation of DCS world, where high simulation level planes will live, also FC3 simple simulation can live? I think it´s a good moment to separate the two different products. ------------ A10 or other, complex piloting. FC3 plane, you push "2" then "i" lock and fire... Greetings
Wichid Posted May 6, 2012 Posted May 6, 2012 Do you think, with the creation of DCS world, where high simulation level planes will live, also FC3 simple simulation can live? I think it´s a good moment to separate the two different products. ------------ A10 or other, complex piloting. FC3 plane, you push "2" then "i" lock and fire... Greetings But think of the awesome co-ordination that could take place with all those players filling out different roles. Lyndiman AMD Ryzen 3600 / RTX 2070 Super / 32G Ram / Win10 / TrackIR 5 Pro / Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals
MadTommy Posted May 6, 2012 Posted May 6, 2012 But think of the awesome co-ordination that could take place with all those players filling out different roles. That is the key point so many seem to be missing... once the Flaming Cliff planes are in DCS World we can have a full scale airwar with no AI in the air... it will be excellent. Sure the FC3 planes wont be the same as the true DCS ones... but to be honest if they were my head would explode trying to learn & remember all the systems and HOTAS setups. :music_whistling: 2 i5-3570K @ 4.5 Ghz, Asus P8Z77-V, 8 GB DDR3, 1.5GB GTX 480 (EVGA, superclocked), SSD, 2 x 1680x1050, x-fi extreme music. TM Warthog, Saitek combat pro pedals, TrackIR 4
EtherealN Posted May 6, 2012 Posted May 6, 2012 (edited) A10 or other, complex piloting. FC3 plane, you push "2" then "i" lock and fire... Yes, we all know the FC users will be at a distinct disadvantage since they don't have even half of the functions of the real jets, but that's a handicap they will just have to live with. You see, "survey" simulators don't only make things "simpler". They make things "simpler" through, to a great extent, not including a lot of the really awesome and cool stuff that modern jets can do. (That's basically what comes with being a survey sim - you can't go into the really advanced detail if you're doing several aircraft at that price point. Worth it, IMO.) A player flying a DCS F-15C would absolutely destroy, murder, pillage and defenestrate a similarly skilled player that is flying an FC F-15C. Edited May 6, 2012 by EtherealN [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
Boomer Posted May 6, 2012 Posted May 6, 2012 Yes, we all know the FC users will be at a distinct disadvantage since they don't have even half of the functions of the real jets, but that's a handicap they will just have to live with. You see, "survey" simulators don't only make things "simpler". They make things "simpler" through, to a great extent, not including a lot of the really awesome and cool stuff that modern jets can do. A player flying a DCS F-15C would absolutely destroy, murder, pillage and defenestrate a similarly skilled player that is flying an FC F-15C. True, you just have to compare FC2 A10A with DCS A10C, it takes a lot more time to master the later, but when you do it it simplified version becomes a completely outclassed. Wishlist: DCS: MiG29M/CMT | DCS: MiG25/31 | DCS: MiG-23MLD | DCS: F16CJ
159th_Viper Posted May 6, 2012 Posted May 6, 2012 Do you think, with the creation of DCS world, where high simulation level planes will live, also FC3 simple simulation can live? Why are you so bothered about it? Are you intimidated by the A-10C/Kamov/Mustang pilots? I am assuming no, you are not. That being the case, you will still be piloting your FC3 ride of choice. Difference is that you will be piloting it in an environment that caters for ALL members of the Community rather than specific sectors thereof, ie DCS World. Why the need for seperation? Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
desmoflex Posted May 6, 2012 Posted May 6, 2012 hey guys, i have in mind that there were lot of problems with LOCKON and FC to get the setup right for Windows x64 due to starforce copy protection. do we have to deal with these problems again? that would be very disapointing..... have fun.. take care desmo
EtherealN Posted May 6, 2012 Posted May 6, 2012 hey guys, i have in mind that there were lot of problems with LOCKON and FC to get the setup right for Windows x64 due to starforce copy protection. do we have to deal with these problems again? that would be very disapointing..... have fun.. take care desmo No. FC3 will, as far as I know (that is, I'm making an educated guess based on what I do know), use the same system as DCS. Just like FC2 did. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
159th_Viper Posted May 6, 2012 Posted May 6, 2012 do we have to deal with these problems again? that would be very disapointing..... LockOn has no Starforce protection. As a consequence, all you would need is LockOn and DCS World installed (both without Starforce) for the FC3 module to be installed. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
mmaruda Posted May 6, 2012 Posted May 6, 2012 Since the Su-25T is free in DCS World, is there any chance that FC3 will bring a clickable 3d cockpit for the Toad? It's something many fans of the plane have been waiting for a king time. 1
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