Next DCS Helicopter Wish List

[HansRoaming]

Hind is an iconic military helicopter and well also just looks so badass!

[Isegrim]

SUPERHIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by ATE

[rajdary]

Cv22 Osprey, if you can call it a helicopter!

[howie87]

I don't know why but I just find the hind so, so ugly. Not Mi8 ugly, but close. The engines look like weird roof-boobs and it's all lumpy and bumpy. That's something universal about attack choppers that I find ugly though... They all have too many bits sticking out.

 

 

Guess I just appreciate smooth lines and aerodynamics more than the 'badass' look.

[Scrim]

I like the original WP Hinds for what they are, and can't wait until the Hind module is finished. However, modernized Hinds, nooo thank you. Modernized is just another word for "I can only afford WP technology, but I want Western technology". It's basically a drag queen Hind, trying to be something it is not, and failing miserably. On its own you can see virtues, such as ruggedness, simplicity, etc., but with modernization you just end up with the worst parts of having WP technology and Western technology: The technological shortcomings of WP technology, but with the lack of ruggedness that you find in Western technology.

[hitman]

I don't know why but I just find the hind so, so ugly. Not Mi8 ugly, but close. The engines look like weird roof-boobs and it's all lumpy and bumpy. That's something universal about attack choppers that I find ugly though... They all have too many bits sticking out.

 

 

Guess I just appreciate smooth lines and aerodynamics more than the 'badass' look.

I always thought the Hip looked a lot like a cicada locust.

[FlyNate]

Most people want an AH-64. So I see that being done soon. But after that a KIOWA! Adding the OH-58 could also work nicely along side the A-10C.

 

[Zakatak]

I'd like the AH-1F. The original Cobra is one of the few helicopters that manage to look as sexy as their fixed wing cousins, and the AH-1F is advanced enough to hold its own in the most common DCS World scenarios (generally the 80's to 00's). Belsimtek is doing the AH-1G but I find that lacking for horsepower and weapon options, and there aren't enough Vietnam-era assets to do a proper 1960's mission and probably won't be for several years. I'd at least upgrade it to the Q version for TOW missiles so we can have some options we don't already have with the UH-1H.

 

 

What a beauty.

Edited June 5, 2014 by Zakatak

[Sceptre]

You're right Zakatak, I don't know why they aren't making the AH-1W or AH-1F... the G model is just too similar to the huey for me and I really wish we could get a counterpart to the Ka-50.

[FlyNate]

The Mi-24D would go nicely with the Mi-8 and KA-50. And the OH-58D would be a nice addition to work with A-10C. The AH-1G is neat, but I really hope someone makes the AH-1S. Anti-Tank capability and the larger caliber gun would be way more useful, and the systems modeling wouldn't change very much, aside from adding the TOW system. I think it would be an easy build for Belsimtek after the release of the AH-1G. If they made the AH-1S and released it as an upgrade for the AH-1G, that could make them a respectable sum of cash, and me a very happy heli-pilot, lol. It would definitely go nicely with the Russian Cold War helis we have now. Its from the same era as the KA-50, and would add the US equivalent to the "blue side."

[AlphaOneSix]

The AH-1G is neat, but I really hope someone makes the AH-1S. Anti-Tank capability and the larger caliber gun would be way more useful

 

The lettering system of the AH-1 modifications is weird, but the F is the most modernized single engine AH-1. The S model still had miniguns in the chin and the rounded canopy. The E and F models had the M197 20mm gun. The only mods the S model really has over the G is the TOW system (with the new sight unit) and an upgraded engine.

[Flagrum]

The lettering system of the AH-1 modifications is weird, but the F is the most modernized single engine AH-1. The S model still had miniguns in the chin and the rounded canopy. The E and F models had the M197 20mm gun. The only mods the S model really has over the G is the TOW system (with the new sight unit) and an upgraded engine.

I would not mind at all which version we will get.

 

 

 

 

... if it only had a decent cannon. And if it had some sort of ATGM, I would not complain either! :o)

[sorcer3r]

The only mods the S model really has over the G is the TOW system (with the new sight unit) and an upgraded engine.

 

 

"only" this would be enough. :)

[AlphaOneSix]

Well, an S model would certainly save time over making the F model, since the G and the S have a lot more in common, and if all people want are anti tank missiles, then sure, an S model is the way to go.

 

But you do get a lot of things along the way...

 

After the S, the P model added another engine upgrade, plus radar altimeter, radar warning receiver (a biggie for DCS fans), "flat plate" canopy, and composite rotor blades.

 

The E model improved the sighting system and the rocket system, and the big one for DCS fans, the M197 20mm gun.

 

Finally, the F model adds in a laser rangefinder, HUD for the back seater, ALQ-144 IR jammer, and a better exhaust heat suppressor.

 

So like I say, if all you're looking for is the TOW missile, then the S model is all you need, but going up to the F model gives a rather large number of really great features that make it actually worthwhile on a more or less modern battlefield.

[sorcer3r]

..., but going up to the F model gives a rather large number of really great features that make it actually worthwhile on a more or less modern battlefield.

 

Would be awesome!. But a modern equipped DCS module (except the A10)... I want to believe. :pilotfly:

[AlphaOneSix]

You and me both!

[fastfreddie]

AH64 in whatever version, Hind, or the Blackhawk. Flying around in Blackhawks was such a blast compared to the Chinook which is pretty much a flying bus.

[Vampyre]

The lettering system of the AH-1 modifications is weird, but the F is the most modernized single engine AH-1. The S model still had miniguns in the chin and the rounded canopy. The E and F models had the M197 20mm gun. The only mods the S model really has over the G is the TOW system (with the new sight unit) and an upgraded engine.

 

Before 1988 the AH-1P/E/F were all AH-1S's. They were all modifications of the S that is and had what was called "Step" modifications. The AH-1S Step 1 turned into the AH-1P, the AH-1S Step 2 became the AH-1E and the AH-1S Step 3 became the AH-1F after 1988's re-designation of the various modifications of the AH-1S. I've done a scale model of the Testors 1/48 AH-1S Cobra back in my younger days (1991 just after Desert Storm) and wanted to make the most up to date single engine version so I had to do some real research to figure out the AH-1F was actually the AH-1S Step 3. Perhaps I should build another one...

I'd love to have the AH-1F or AH-64A and OH-58D's to act as a hunter killer teams in a Fulda Gap scenario in the late 80's/early 90's.

[AlphaOneSix]

Before 1988 the AH-1P/E/F were all AH-1S's.

 

I know all of this, but it's after 1988, so I use the new lettering. Everyone hated calling them Mods, Prods, ECAS, and MCs. Nobody called them by "Step" names, at least not in the military.

 

AH-1S (MOD) --> AH-1S

AH-1S (PROD) --> AH-1P

AH-1S (ECAS) --> AH-1E

AH-1S (MC) --> AH-1F

Edited June 6, 2014 by AlphaOneSix

[Mike Busutil]

I think the BlackHawk would be a lot of fun in DCS, including in flight refueling & Fast Rope Insertion Extraction System (FRIES) missions.

 

 

 

 

[Vampyre]

Nobody called them by "Step" names, at least not in the military.

 

I figured the step designation was a manufacturers method of tracking the upgrades because everybody knows how much the military loves its acronyms. I remember seeing the AH-1F's of 3ACR flying over the McGregor range/White Sands when they were at Ft Bliss. There were all kinds of helo's in the area back then. In addition to the Cobras there were Chinooks, Hueys, Blackhawks, Air Force HH-60G's out of Holloman and I even saw a Mi-24 Hind once. Those Helo's were always awesome to see. Almost makes me wish I had joined the Army instead of the Navy... Almost

 

Would be nice to see a DCS Hind as well.

[JMCorey]

New Helicopter

 

I would love to see the new US Army UH-72 Lakota ( EC-145 ) or even a EC-635 ( EC-135 armed variant ). Why isn't there a Super Cobra on the list, the AH-1W is old. The AH-1Z with 4 blades would be killer. Better performance, better speed, better maneuverability. Or how about a MD-530F armed scout helicopter. Bell 407AH? There are som many great helicopters left out. The Bell 412 marine Corps version.. . The UH-1 Y

[Nerdwing]

I'd love the Blackhawk honestly. It'd be interesting to see how it compares to the UH-1H in terms of performance, and to see how much it has "advanced" in terms of overall technology and flight-aids compared to the previous workhorse.

 

Failing that, the AH-1F :)

[FlyNate]

Pavehawk, Pavelow, 160th Blackhawks... I wanna refuel choppers in the air ;)

 

The modern USMC Helis have stupid looking blades lol. The AH1S or F would give us AT capability with the Classic Huey sound. The CH-146 Griffon (Bell 412) would be a nice one to play with. And it doesn't have the funny looking collapsible blades. I stand by my previous posts... Mi-24 then OH-58D. They have to learn more complex systems and this will take time. I'm almost certain that we will see more and more complex choppers as more 3rd party birds are released. We can only hope that release dates of future addons grow closer together. One aircraft per developer every 2-4 months would be nice, but I understand that waiting allows for better quality and detail. Take care all!!!

[Archades]

I'd love to see the AH6 Little Bird, or something small, fast and agile. The bigger ones are a bit sluggish.

 

Just out of curiosity, which of the helis in the poll would be similar level in agility to the AH6? And would the Apache be somewhat close?