Zakatak Posted June 16, 2012 Posted June 16, 2012 (edited) Razer Artemis Razer is a PC gaming company that caters mostly to the FPS and RPG markets, and they make gamepads/mice/keyboards/mousepads/headsets. The Artemis has recently been revealed, and it is their first joystick. It isn't actually in production yet, and only a non-functional concept has been revealed, but it will be made. The thing is, it isn't built for flight simulators. It was designed for Mechwarrior Online, which is the first iteration of Mechwarrior since MW4 is 1999. As a huge Battletech nerd, I am supremely excited for MWO. But I also play flight sims, and if the Artemis is only useful for 1 game, I don't think it would be worth the price at all. From what I can see: Has a pinky trigger to act like a shift, or maybe just another trigger Trigger, unknown if 1 stage or 2 stage Large MFD, rumors of it being a touchscreen 8-way hat, or possibly thumbstick Two 4-way hatswitches, or one 4-way hatswitch and 1 button on the thumbrest 2 buttons on the stick, one bottom left and one top right Possibly a cylindrical mode/profile selector on the top left of the stick, like an X52 Appears the 3 pieces can detach Small throttle with a single thumb button, slides instead of tilts 12 buttons and possibly a 'spacebar' below it Spring and pot, like the X52 Metal construction Obviously mechs don't handle like aircraft. Accelerations are rapid in lighter mechs, and require a smaller throttle you can flick up and down. Most HOTAS and even joysticks have large throttles that you wrap your hand around. How would a smaller throttle like that work in a flight game? Another issue is the MFD. Is the information displayed specific to one game, or can it display the DSMS of the A-10C, for example? If it is touchscreen, that would add a vast array of extra functions (24 with the pinky switch for the keypad alone). I haven't had problems with Razer products in the past, and my mouse/pad/keyboard are all Razers. I'm OCD and would like to complete the set. But this is their first joystick, and I doubt they have any expertise in that area, and using a spring rustles my jimmies. I don't want to buy one if it only works for 1 game, even if I LOVE the design. What do you guys think of it? Edited June 16, 2012 by Zakatak
cichlidfan Posted June 16, 2012 Posted June 16, 2012 I'll keep my Warthog. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
ilikepie Posted June 16, 2012 Posted June 16, 2012 Zakatak, you may be interested in this Action After Contemplation
BHawthorne Posted June 16, 2012 Posted June 16, 2012 Interesting. You could always go old-school and get a Steel Battalion controller. I think a one or two people have made Windows drivers for it.
Brisse Posted June 16, 2012 Posted June 16, 2012 I've had four Razer products and only been happy with two of them. Good: Diamondback Deathadder Bad: Lycosa Copperhead I will stick to my trusted Thrustmaster HOTAS Cougar... I don't think this will be useful for anything but MWO.
joey45 Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 My only Razor product I've had was a mouse.... didn't even last a year. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
cichlidfan Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 I've had my Blackwidow Ultimate for about six months and it is still just like the day I took it out of the box. Never tried one of their mice. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
MTFDarkEagle Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 Got a Razer Mamba (not the new 4G model) about 1.5 years or something similar ago. Still works 100% and still love it to death!. Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
PoleCat Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 If you happen to be a Mechwarrior exclusively, then maybe, otherwise umm nay. Out http://www.104thphoenix.com/
PlainSight Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 Why would you play a fps game with a joystick? [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Harzach Posted June 18, 2012 Posted June 18, 2012 Why would you play a fps game with a joystick? I'm guessing you've never played any Mechwarrior games? :joystick:
PeterP Posted June 18, 2012 Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) It has a long tradition in the asian/japanese region (arcade /console -wise speaking) to play "FPS games" with this kind of setup. - and I played mech-warrior myself with rudders + HOTAS only . So Yes - this makes absolute sense to me! It's just a matter of time and you are used to it. :) But to be honest: you don't need exact this controller.... - a common HOTAS (and/or keypad +joystick) + rudders and a touch-screen (e.g. iPAD) will do it too. - things you can find easily in everyone's sim-geeks cave within minutes.:D Edited June 18, 2012 by PeterP
Zakatak Posted June 19, 2012 Author Posted June 19, 2012 I already have a perfectly functioning X52. It can do anything well, it just looks like crap. :P If the Razer Artemis had a boat switch instead of a button on the throttle, a touchscreen MFD that could display things like the A-10C DSMS, and a mode selector, I would totally get it. But if it only works reliably for Mechwarrior Online, I'd rather stick... horrible pun... with this.
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