ED Team BIGNEWY Posted October 2, 2012 ED Team Posted October 2, 2012 I am getting massive hits to FPS just looking at the terrain, if I look up into the sky I am back up to 40 - 50 fps as soon as I look at the terrain down to 16 - 17 fps ( no explosions just looking at terrain ) Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Kuky Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 I just installed 1.2.1 and I straight away used my own High.lua where I have 20km view distance for cities and bit more high res ground textures compared to default High.lua in sim and really... the sim is still running good for me.. same setting as what I had before to tress and bushes etc.. and honestly I can't tell any diference beween FPS I had in 1.2.0 with my tweaks and this one... I don't know what the fuss is about? PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
GGM Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Seems it depends, coz I haven't noticed any frame rate loss also at first glance. Will check more intensively today. [sigpic][/sigpic]
Corvus Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 I just installed 1.2.1 and I straight away used my own High.lua where I have 20km view distance for cities and bit more high res ground textures compared to default High.lua in sim and really... the sim is still running good for me.. same setting as what I had before to tress and bushes etc.. and honestly I can't tell any diference beween FPS I had in 1.2.0 with my tweaks and this one... I don't know what the fuss is about? You are lucky then:) Before uninstalling 1.2.0 i've checked my fps on Batumi's runway and it showed 43 (no mods, tweaks ect). After installing 1.2.1, setting it up as i had before in 1.2.0 i get 34 fps in same situation. It gets far worse later on: flying over Batumi i was getting 39 fps before, now it's 25 max. What's strange is that changing visibility to medium gives same result- 25 fps flying over Batumi, 34 on runway. My YT channel https://www.youtube.com/user/corvuscorp81
Nate--IRL-- Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Try renaming \\Bazar\World\Shapes\PRW-11.EDM to something else and try again. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
Corvus Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Try renaming \\Bazar\World\Shapes\PRW-11.EDM to something else and try again. Nate I gave it a try- result is almost the same, 34-35 at runway, 25 in flight over Batumi. My YT channel https://www.youtube.com/user/corvuscorp81
SkateZilla Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 i got my FrameRate back to 1.2.0 standards (or closer too) by dumping EDs DEfault 3-Screen LUA and going back to my custom Eyefinity LUA. Still having intermittant issues with mouse, and having to ALT TAB and go back, at the start of missions or when going from Mainscreen to MP Screen. Renderer also takes a minute to come back up when alt tabbing (sit at a black screen, then it comes back w/ scambled UI then restores it self correctly). I was able to Get back about 80% of my Frame Rate on my system by using my Eyefinity LUA. (Basically throws away the 3 Camera parameters, makes one Big Camera, and positions the UI on the center Screen). Positioning the UI was the most work (which wasn’t more than 2 minutes) As I have bezel correction on, so I have to take my Res (6048x1080), divide by 3:1 to get 2016x1080, which was still off, Then I remembered, 2016 implies Bezels on both Sides of the Screen, and there is no Bezel correction on the edge of the left screen (position = 0), so 1920-2016=96 (for both sides), since the left screen only Does BC on the right Bezel, the Px for one side is 48, so 1920+48= 1968, which puts the UI/Subtitles/Radio Menus/Info Bar on External Views Perfectly on the center screen only without going behind the bezels. From there is a matter of adjusting the Pit FoV a lil to reflect the 3 screens. Now I get a 15-20% FrameRate hit when I fly low and fast with or without the MAV/TGP on. So it’s something to do with terrain and Looking at it, Flying High seems to allow higher FrPS, Coming down through the clouds though, as soon as Terrain is Visible, the FrPS takes the 15-20% Hit. Also the Mouse Pointer not working when Mission Starts or when Going to the MP Menu. The MP Menu isn’t as much as an Issue as the ALT-TAB out and then back is quick. ALT-TABing out at mission start, or anytime the renderer is active on the other hand, results in a Long wait at a black screen for the Renderer to restore itself, in which you also have to wait for it to restore the UI over the renderer. In 1.2.0 it restore immediately and you can watch as the renderer restored textures. Im hoping by time I get out of my Office today it’ll be fixed, other wise I’ll Post a Video. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted October 2, 2012 ED Team Posted October 2, 2012 Is this a ATI issue or are NVIDIA users getting frame rate hits ? If I am looking towards terrain I am getting 10 - 15fps as soon as I look away from terrain back up to 25 - 30 fps. In its current state its unplayable for me, although it seems to run smooth after about 30 mins my eyes start to hurt :( I hope this can be look at and resolved otherwise I will need to look at some serious modifications / tweaks to my client Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
GriffonBR Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Well, my FPS are better now with the new update, but when I switch on my Track IR ON at DCS World, I get a lot of shutters. Does anybody noticed something like that? I´m using a Track IR 5 + Track Clip Pro and the last version of Natural Point software. My specs. i5 2500k @ 4.3ghz 8GB Vengeance 1600Mhz 500 GB Western Digital Blue only for OS. 500 GB Western Digital Blue dedicated only for games. DCS World, FC2 and a lot of other games inside. MSI GTX 660 Ti Power Edition OC. OCZ Modxstream 700w Dell S2230MX monitor Intel 8700K@4.7ghz(all cores) / 32Gb DDR4 /WD Black SN750 Heatsink 500gb (DCS Only) / MSI GeForce RTX 2070 GAMING Z 8G / Windows 10 PRO / VPC WarBRD Base + Warthog Stick + Foxx Mount / Thrustmaster TPR pedals / Thustmaster MFD / Thrustmaster Warthog throttle + Monstertech chair mount
Chippy Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 If it makes you feel better, look at the sky when in game, all will return to normal :P [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
SkateZilla Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Well, my FPS are better now with the new update, but when I switch on my Track IR ON at DCS World, I get a lot of shutters. Does anybody noticed something like that? I´m using a Track IR 5 + Track Clip Pro and the last version of Natural Point software. My specs. i5 2500k @ 4.3ghz 8GB Vengeance 1600Mhz 500 GB Western Digital Blue only for OS. 500 GB Western Digital Blue dedicated only for games. DCS World, FC2 and a lot of other games inside. MSI GTX 660 Ti Power Edition OC. OCZ Modxstream 700w Dell S2230MX monitor I noticed Input Shutters on my Mouse Cursor as well, trying to flip switches and the cursor starts to jump a lil but.. kinda annoying. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
diveplane Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 I noticed Input Shutters on my Mouse Cursor as well, trying to flip switches and the cursor starts to jump a lil but.. kinda annoying. i dont think framerates are fully tweaked and optimised yet. this is done near end of beta testing phases . https://www.youtube.com/user/diveplane11 DCS Audio Modding.
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted October 2, 2012 ED Team Posted October 2, 2012 On a side note, even setting everything to low / off has no effect still the same 10 -15 fps. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
cichlidfan Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 i dont think framerates are fully tweaked and optimised yet. this is done near end of beta testing phases . DCS World has not been in beta, according to ED, since 10 July. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
GriffonBR Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Nobody here has any problem with shutters using Track IR devices? I don´t know but I´m start to think that something at Nvidia CP is causing this issue. I´ve set everything to OFF on NVCP (the green icon of DCS World) but nothing seems to work. Any tip? Intel 8700K@4.7ghz(all cores) / 32Gb DDR4 /WD Black SN750 Heatsink 500gb (DCS Only) / MSI GeForce RTX 2070 GAMING Z 8G / Windows 10 PRO / VPC WarBRD Base + Warthog Stick + Foxx Mount / Thrustmaster TPR pedals / Thustmaster MFD / Thrustmaster Warthog throttle + Monstertech chair mount
wess24m Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 I've noticed a doubling of my framerates, everything maxed out getting above 60 FPS. no stutters, even loads faster in both SP and MP. I deleted everything and reinstalled zzz sound mod and smoke mod. I didn't anything special except delete everything off the HDD and reinstall new.
SkateZilla Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 i dont think framerates are fully tweaked and optimised yet. this is done near end of beta testing phases . I meant when i try to flip a switch, the + cursor flickers up and down or left to right (like my mouse if vibrating). Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
YeaImRota Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 I've noticed a doubling of my framerates, everything maxed out getting above 60 FPS. no stutters, even loads faster in both SP and MP. I deleted everything and reinstalled zzz sound mod and smoke mod. I didn't anything special except delete everything off the HDD and reinstall new. Could you link to the smoke mod? I have a feeling that a major cause of the bad frame rates is the new smoke effects not being optimized. Is this a ATI issue or are NVIDIA users getting frame rate hits ? If I am looking towards terrain I am getting 10 - 15fps as soon as I look away from terrain back up to 25 - 30 fps. In its current state its unplayable for me, although it seems to run smooth after about 30 mins my eyes start to hurt :( I hope this can be look at and resolved otherwise I will need to look at some serious modifications / tweaks to my client I use a GTX670 and also have suffered massive frame rate hits. http://www.reddit.com/r/hoggit Hoggit 1st Fighter Wing Weekly training missions on Tuesday nights, missions on Saturdays! TS3: hoggit.us
Meatwod Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 I've noticed a doubling of my framerates, everything maxed out getting above 60 FPS. no stutters, even loads faster in both SP and MP. I deleted everything and reinstalled zzz sound mod and smoke mod. I didn't anything special except delete everything off the HDD and reinstall new. Do you have a link to these that you can share with the group? If the new smoke is the problem, then this smoke mod might do the trick.
-Mop- Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 I meant when i try to flip a switch, the + cursor flickers up and down or left to right (like my mouse if vibrating). i´ve got this too
-Mop- Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 I realised a huge impact on my performance... also the hotfix didn´t make anything better...
USAFMTL Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Same here. I dropped my settings to medium and still so bad you cannot fly it. [sigpic][/sigpic] US Air Force Retired, 1C371 No rank or title will ever be as important as the unit patch you wear.
wolfstone Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 (edited) i have had to turn everything down basicly ,i have noticed that the game does not use my second Grafic card it stays on idle... my system is AMD 8core @4GHZ 16 gb ddr3 ram @2133ghz and 2 X6970s and the game is on its own SSD drive i get 1 fps at start and if i am licky it will go up to 20 but its very unstable, for some unknown reason my windows explorer keeps closing down as well since i have updated.. Edited October 2, 2012 by wolfstone
lokitexas Posted October 3, 2012 Posted October 3, 2012 (edited) i5 3570k @ 4.3 560GTX ti 2gig 8gig Ram Intel SSD With almost full settings (sans water and civ traffic) I was getting 30-50fps constant, in 1.2.0 . Now same settings in 1.2.1, I am getting 17-23 constant. I have lowered settings and it seems to make no difference at all. Used Nvidia CP as well as used only the game settings. No difference. Changed High.Lua and still no difference. Also loading a mission is extremely long. Almost double from 1.2.0 . Hope ED has found what is causing this. Is this a minority issue, or more folks getting this huge drop? Edited October 3, 2012 by lokitexas i5 3570k @ 4.3 560ti GTX 2gig 8gig RAM Intel SSD Win7 64bit
ShuRugal Posted October 3, 2012 Posted October 3, 2012 SEVERE loss of framerate after update updated to 1.2.1 following the stated procedure on the news post. no snags there. got the game running, again, no snags. load up the shooting range (KA-50) and i'm looking at 10 FPS cold and dark on the pad. Before the update I was getting 24-30 under the same conditions. Started up and was looking at 8 FPS before takeoff. this dropped to 6 once airborne. Checked settings, all are as i had them previously configured: same resolution, MSAA and other fancy effects turned off. regular AA forced off in nVidia control panel. Display drivers are current.
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