MRaza Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Is it normal for the Flankers and MiGs to annoyingly pitch up and down constantly, requiring constant trim? And is there any way to avoid/fix this other than constant trim input? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feefifofum Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 1. Yep. 2. Aside from autopilot, nope. ;) Get to know and love your trimmer. Any change to thrust or attitude will require retrimming the aircraft to maintain. THE GEORGIAN WAR - OFFICIAL F-15C DLC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 The way to avoid it is to plan your cruise. If all you like to do is mow the lawn in the mountains (or anywhere), then about the only 'trick' here is maintain your speed as well as possible. Trim generally isn't as important during a fight but it is still helpful. Almost every instance of 'not a fight' should be some form of cruising, there you trim for your speed and leave it be. Is it normal for the Flankers and MiGs to annoyingly pitch up and down constantly, requiring constant trim? And is there any way to avoid/fix this other than constant trim input? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vatikus Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 However it should be also noted that there is a bug since forever for FFB & trim. If you add curve to the axis then trim will not put your stick into the right position. It's annoying as hell to use non-curved axis mapping. Walkaround for this is to use autopilot as much as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harf4ng Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 If I'm only interested in the F15, does FC3 brings something more than just getting the F15 module? Thanks Envoyé de mon SM-G955F en utilisant Tapatalk Favorite modules : Huey, F-86F, F14 and P-51D Quest 2, RTX 3080, i7 10700K, 16 Gb of RAM, Pro Flight Trainer PUMA helicopter setup, Warthog HOTAS with two force sensitive stick, custom cockpit and a GS-Cobra dynamic seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRaza Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 If I'm only interested in the F15, does FC3 brings something more than just getting the F15 module? Thanks Envoyé de mon SM-G955F en utilisant Tapatalk FC3 gives you the F-15C, Su-27 and 33, Su-25A, A-10A, and MiG-29. If that's what you were asking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schroedi Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 FC3 gives you the F-15C, Su-27 and 33, Su-25A, A-10A, and MiG-29. If that's what you were asking ...and the J-11A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HocusPocus Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 If I'm only interested in the F15, does FC3 brings something more than just getting the F15 module? If the only plane you're interested in is the f15, then no, fc3 does not add any value on top of the standalone module. If you want to discover the strength/weakness of all of the other included planes, then it's a great value! Just fly the su27 for a while to know your opponent, that will make you more dangerous as a f15c driver :smilewink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFire Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Nonsense about custard theory. Cannot tell if artfully done troll post or utterly ignorant of physical reality :disgust: With regards to the stand alone F-15C, I'd definitely recommend purchasing the FC3 pack. I started out wanting to fly things like the A-10 and Su-25 but fairly quickly fell in love with the Su-27, even with all it's quirks. You never know what you'll really enjoy flying until you give it a go, and in that respect FC3 offers superb value for money. System Spec: Cooler Master Cosmos C700P Black Edition case. | AMD 5950X CPU | MSI RTX-3090 GPU | 32GB HyperX Predator PC4000 RAM | | TM Warthog stick & throttle | TrackIR 5 | Samsung 980 Pro NVMe 4 SSD 1TB (boot) | Samsung 870 QVO SSD 4TB (games) | Windows 10 Pro 64-bit. Personal wish list: DCS: Su-27SM & DCS: Avro Vulcan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReflexArc Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Anyone else having issues with the F-15C mission where you're supposed to protect the SEAD flight? They keep getting shot down by the anti-air... They're the ones who are supposed to be taking out the air defenses! Member of TAW-North America. Practices Thursdays at 2045 Eastern. Missions Sundays at 1945 Eastern. F/A-18C | A-10C | AV-8B | M2000C | Huey | KA-50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconus Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) Anyone else having issues with the F-15C mission where you're supposed to protect the SEAD flight? Please head to the F-15C forum and find Bear Trap campaign recent topics. You'll find answers and fix. Edit: Looks like you found it but the answer stands correct. Edited June 9, 2018 by draconus Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX3060 Rift S T16000M TWCS TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
de.Impact Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Is there any information yet about when/if FC3 modules might also get the new external effects like overwing vapour / condensation etc. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiramisu Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 I have bought the SU-33 in a bundle and for now this is the only plane I got from FC3. So now I wonder, if I should buy another airplane from the FC3-DLC or wait until there are better models available, because it seems like some of the models in FC3 are much older and less detailed as the newer ones like the A-10C or the F18. Maybe I should even wait for FC4 in case a sequel will be released. Currently I am thinking about to buy the MiG-29, after watching some interesting videos about it. So what are you guys thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmidtfire Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 There will be no FC4. But wait for Modern Air Combat (MAC). Should be released quite soon I think. You will get a very large pack of planes (non clickable) Modern Air Combat A-10A Su-25 MiG29 (A/G/S) Su-27 Su-33 F-15C L39 F86F MiG15 F5E MiG21bis I might have missed something, but it will be a very good pack. Basicly it is current Flaming Cliffs 3 pack but with an additional set of modules. ED has converted a bunch of their high end modules to the more accessible Flaming Cliffs non-clickable standard. If you really enjoy one of those modules you can buy them later as fully clickable and high fidelity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiramisu Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) Good to know! Are the airplanes in MAC going to be better modelled than the old ones in FC3? I personally always prefer the more realistic versions with clickable cockpits, but I am not sure if I can upgrade my airplanes to the high fidelity versions, because I am using the Steam version of DCS. Edit: I have read somewhere that ED made a contract with the Russian government promising to not create a clickable or detailled functional cockpit of any Russian fighter jet. Can anyone confirm this? Edited November 2, 2018 by Tiramisu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconus Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 (edited) MAC will include the same FC3 modules plus some more and also partial maps - it's just a bundle pack of modules, most of which can be bought separately. The Russian machines that are planned as a future modules are Mig-23 and Mi-24 so don't expect anything newer in full fidelity in the years to come. If you can live with the FC3 modeling level don't hesitate to buy it now. Steam has the same modules available. MAC will certainly be higher priced, but they promised a discount for current FC3 owners anyway. You will probably not upgrade any module - you will be just able to buy a full fidelity version if there already exists one. Edited November 3, 2018 by draconus Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX3060 Rift S T16000M TWCS TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiramisu Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 (edited) Ok, now I am starting to understand what this is about. Although I am mostly interested in the Mig-29, I wonder if the the map expansions in MAC are worth buying it. I am not sure if it adds something to the Persia map or just contains parts of the already existing map. I am also a little bit curious about the map expansion in eastern Georgia, which seems to be only available in FC3 currently. Edit: Also I wonder how good the improvements of the AI and the mission editor are in FC3. In MAC this kind of additional features is not mentioned. Edited November 3, 2018 by Tiramisu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconus Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 No need to guess. This is official: https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3565024&postcount=150 AI, Mission Editor and Caucasus map are part of free DCS World. Bundles like MAC or FC3 offer just modules. MAC is going to offer just parts of existing maps. If Caucasus is going to be expanded it will be so for DCS World not just for some module. What do you mean by "map expansion in eastern Georgia". Link? Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX3060 Rift S T16000M TWCS TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiramisu Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 What do you mean by "map expansion in eastern Georgia". Link? I got that information from https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/de/products/planes/flaming_cliffs/. It is saying "Expanded theatre of operations map into eastern Georgia." (And the German version of Steam is saying "Erweitertes Einsatzgebiet in Richtung Ostgeorgien") That sounds very much like a small map expansion to me, but maybe I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconus Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I can see where all the confusion comes from now. Some of the info on the site is apparently outdated and may have been truth back then, while FC3 was making it's way into DCS bringing new things into the World. As it is now FC3 only gives you aircraft modules and their coresponding missions and campaigns. All the Caucasus map, weapons, objects, AI, mission editor and all core related stuff is part of free DCS World. Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX3060 Rift S T16000M TWCS TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiramisu Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Now I am reassured. Thx! :happy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRaza Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 I'm a bit confused on what corner airspeed is. Is it the speed for the tightest sustained turn rate? Or for the fastest turn under max G? can someone explain it to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 It's the speed at which you can turn with the highest turn rate (g) and tightest circle at the same time. This condition is achieved under instantaneous maneuvering, not sustained. I'm a bit confused on what corner airspeed is. Is it the speed for the tightest sustained turn rate? Or for the fastest turn under max G? can someone explain it to me? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The AMRAAMer Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 So whats the correlation between G-forces, AoA, and turn rate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VC Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 So whats the correlation between G-forces, AoA, and turn rate? More AoA = more lift force = More G. But AoA and G are both limited. Turn rate is a factor of G and radius. A 9g turn at 700km/h and a 9g turn at 900km/h aren't the same thing, the faster you go (at constant G), the wider your turn so the lower the turn rate. Corner speed is basically the lowest speed where you can pull max G. VC =X51= Squadron is recruiting! X51 website: https://x51squadron.com/ Join our Discord: https://discord.gg/d9JtFY4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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