Stratos Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 Then can we have two maps please? The old one and the new one? Make a patch with the old map and give the player the hability to select which one wants to use in a given mission. I don't understand anything in russian except Davai Davai!
shagrat Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 Nope, I guess not. Because they would need to "redo" the whole Crimea with the new EDM object modelling... and you will get a flame war from hell, if you made ED divert any ressources from the Nevada/EDGE development, which would delay it even further. :D Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
shagrat Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 You may want to think about buying LockOn and "Flaming Cliffs"... at least you get to fly "Crimean scenarios"... though it wouldn't be very sensitive at the moment!!! A little fiction: What if France and Spain where at the brink of war and we would like to play it out? The region where your parents just died. And I would fly the french bombers who did it?!:huh: Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
Stratos Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 I'm requesting a old map made available again, not talking about politics, after all following your idea we can't play over Crimea, but yes over Georgia? There was a war there in 2008. Is really sad how after all those years we are losing map content. 1 I don't understand anything in russian except Davai Davai!
badger66 Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 Why when ED changed from LOMAC to FC2 did they drop the Crimea from the world ..... sad the did that now .
kazereal Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 (edited) I'm requesting a old map made available again, not talking about politics, after all following your idea we can't play over Crimea, but yes over Georgia? There was a war there in 2008. Is really sad how after all those years we are losing map content. Not sure if you read the previous posts but to put it short: it takes both technical capabilities and working hours to do it. Currently working hours at ED are being used to improve technical capabilities (EDGE) so it would be better to finish that first, right? After that the working-hours to support new areas would not be wasted as increasing area would be simpler -> better product, more content, faster updates? Edited March 5, 2014 by kazereal linefeed "I would have written a shorter post, but I did not have the time."
Stratos Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 Ok, now that the dust settled, thanks moderators! Is possible to get that old Crimea part of the map back somehow please? I don't understand anything in russian except Davai Davai!
shagrat Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 (edited) Ok, to put it even more straight: to get Crimea back it needs to be rebuilt with EDM models from DCS. It is not "getting it back" more making a new one. When ED starts that it will take months, maybe longer. The result would be a map of Caucasus and Crimea without Georgia for technical limitations. In addition we will see Nevada even later... so how likely do you think this is to happen? But feel free to ask, again. I simply tried to explain why the request is doomed, in my oppinion. <SARCASM> If you are lucky they may listen to you and delay development further to make you happy!</SARCASM> Edited March 5, 2014 by shagrat Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
kazereal Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 <SARCASM> If you are lucky they may listen to you and delay development further to make you happy!</SARCASM> Wow, that would make so much sense, switching primary task whenever something in the real world happens and pushing everything else later.. ;D </SARCASM> "I would have written a shorter post, but I did not have the time."
Cali Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 I would happily pay more for a new map than a new aircraft. That's because you have the aircraft you want. i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED
Stratos Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 Is there any human way to play Lockon + FC 1 (IIRC that's the last variant with Crimea on it) in a modern W7 machine? I don't understand anything in russian except Davai Davai!
Stratos Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 Hope my interest in flying FC1 on a Win7 machine does not distract any EDGE developers. :D :D :D I don't understand anything in russian except Davai Davai!
eFirehawk Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 Does anyone have screenshots of the removed map areas? Just curious here... :) Pentium II 233Mhz | 16MB RAM | 14.4kb Modem | 1.44MB Floppy Disk Drive | Windows 3.1 with TM Warthog & TrackIR 5
shagrat Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 Area is still there. The Crimean Peninsula west of Anapa... what is missing, is the elevation data, roads, railroads and towns, as well as trees and rivers. Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
eFirehawk Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 Yes, I'd like to see some images of how it was before, just out of curiosity, and also to see if they look any different from pretty much anywhere along the Georgian map coast. The current map for me is quite bland and looks the same wherever you are. Pentium II 233Mhz | 16MB RAM | 14.4kb Modem | 1.44MB Floppy Disk Drive | Windows 3.1 with TM Warthog & TrackIR 5
Exorcet Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 Area is still there. The Crimean Peninsula west of Anapa... what is missing, is the elevation data, roads, railroads and towns, as well as trees and rivers. Crimea in DCS isn't actually flat, at least not all of it. I started making a mission there in the hills near the Black Sea coast a while ago. Yes, I'd like to see some images of how it was before, just out of curiosity, and also to see if they look any different from pretty much anywhere along the Georgian map coast. The current map for me is quite bland and looks the same wherever you are. It's not much different to what was in LOMAC. I've never played FC1. Some of the airbases were nice though, and there were a few unique buildings. You can probably get an idea by searching for LOMAC videos on youtube. Awaiting: DCS F-15C Win 10 i5-9600KF 4.6 GHz 64 GB RAM RTX2080Ti 11GB -- Win 7 64 i5-6600K 3.6 GHz 32 GB RAM GTX970 4GB -- A-10C, F-5E, Su-27, F-15C, F-14B, F-16C missions in User Files
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Revan Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 We need a southeast asia map, and some vietnam era crafts to go with it. DCS: F-4E really needs to be a thing!!!!!! Aircraft: A-10C, Ka-50, UH-1H, MiG-21, F-15C, Su-27, MiG-29, A-10A, Su-25, Su-25T, TF-51
Stratos Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 Is there any human way to play Lockon + FC 1 (IIRC that's the last variant with Crimea on it) in a modern W7 machine? Someone please? I don't understand anything in russian except Davai Davai!
Exorcet Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 Someone please? I have LOMAC installed on my Win 7 machines. Seems to work, but all I've really ever done since FC2 is fly around and look at the map. Awaiting: DCS F-15C Win 10 i5-9600KF 4.6 GHz 64 GB RAM RTX2080Ti 11GB -- Win 7 64 i5-6600K 3.6 GHz 32 GB RAM GTX970 4GB -- A-10C, F-5E, Su-27, F-15C, F-14B, F-16C missions in User Files
Stratos Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 I can run LOMAC, but the problem resides in FC starforce I think. I don't understand anything in russian except Davai Davai!
Stratos Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 Solved myself. Thanks. I don't understand anything in russian except Davai Davai!
Dudester22 Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 (edited) I'd like to see anything other then what we have now. Played this map to death and don't even need instruments to navigate anymore. Edited March 6, 2014 by Dudester22
Hans-Joachim Marseille Posted March 7, 2014 Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) Recent events prove a Crimean / Black Sea map to be as potent as ever. Would love to see EDGE showcase this. The only other map that could contend would be the Middle-East. Edited March 7, 2014 by Hans-Joachim Marseille
Knubinator Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 I'm feeling Western Europe. Being able to take off from an RAF base, form up over Dover, head to the target, reform, hit a tanker if necessary, and go home. Be able to alternate at an improvised field in Denmark or something. Would be so sweet. I just want a huge theater map, like in IL-2. i7 4790k @ 4.4, 32GB RAM, RX480 GTR I fly it all.
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