dores893 Posted December 21, 2012 Posted December 21, 2012 When I purchased DCS A-10 earlier this year, I downloaded and studied the manual for over a month before I started flying. I felt it was necessary in order to really understand the complexities of the aircraft, and it was time well spent. We've been left without any real manual in our newly rebooted survey sim FC3, so I need to ask some basic questions in the hope that somebody has an answer. Regarding the F-15C: 1. I find the HUD drift and color highly annoying. I can't seem to make the HUD dark enough to read in any color, and the drift means that I don't have critical information when I need it. I can't even read airspeed when I rotate. Does anyone know how to make the HUD dark enough to actually read or how to keep it centered?? 2. The familiar nagivation cross from FC2 seems to have dissapeared in navigation mode, being replaced with a line. Not sure what that means, or how to deal with it. But, I can't seem to nagivate anymore. 3. The autopilot is just wacked, but I always thought the same in FC2 and I never used it. When I turn on the auto flight following with autothrust, my jet just flys a 360 circle. Also, it's not clear if you also need to engage an altitude hold in addition to the flight following, or if you can set the autothrust level (the jet always deploys the air brake when I engage it). Any help would be appreciated.
tonym Posted December 21, 2012 Posted December 21, 2012 Yes, the various problems you describe are well known & irritating. ED is aware of them & I am sure will address them in updates in due course. Check the preliminary change log in the forum for the latest updates.
dores893 Posted December 21, 2012 Author Posted December 21, 2012 Looks like I'm headed back to FC2 for a better game experience. You can keep the graphics, but I do wish I had my $40 bucks back (same thing I wish after buying Combined Arms)! :P
Steel Jaw Posted December 21, 2012 Posted December 21, 2012 Well I just bought FC3 with my eyes wide open. It is beta and medium (really lite IMHO) fidelity so you have to recognize these things going in. I am enjoying the fast jets in DCSW as a break from hardcore FBMS. "You see, IronHand is my thing" My specs: W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, Red Dragon 7800XT/16GB, monitor: GIGABYTE M32QC 32" (31.5" Viewable) QHD 2560 x 1440 (2K) 165Hz.
PoleCat Posted December 21, 2012 Posted December 21, 2012 Most would disagree that FC2 is a better game experience then DCSW and FC3 beta. Also FC3 is a beta release. You know that right? So is Combined Arms. You know what Beta means? Give it some time. Enough said. Out http://www.104thphoenix.com/
Jona33 Posted December 21, 2012 Posted December 21, 2012 Try unchecking Head movement with G forces in the options menu. Might help number 1. Always remember. I don't have a clue what I'm doing
Witchking Posted December 21, 2012 Posted December 21, 2012 The HUD in old versions was fixed in the semi 3d cockpits/2d front panels in pre-DCS line. The new DCS standard HUD IMO is realistic and a reason why ED carried it over to the Lock on aircraft. I personally like it a lot. Although...I don't know why the HUD looks a bit more bright green than the mint green shown in many DCS videos. WHISPR | Intel I7 5930K | Nvidia GTX980 4GB GDDR5 | 16GB DDR4 | Intel 730 series 512GB SSD | Thrustmaster WARTHOG | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR4 pro | |A-10C|BS2 |CA|P-51 MUSTANG|UH-1H HUEY|MI-8 MTV2 |FC3|F5E|M2000C|AJS-37|FW190|BF 109K|Mig21|A-10:SSC,EWC|L-39|NEVADA|
Hamblue Posted December 21, 2012 Posted December 21, 2012 The upcoming release moves to 2.2.3 which is a major change. Maybe they'll remove FC3 from beta Asus Sabertooth P67 Motherboard 2600k CPU, 16 gig DDR3, 1600. Samsung 830, 256 gig hard drive, GTX780 Video Card, Warthog Hotas, Razer Mamba mouse. Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals. Trackir 5, Verizon FIOS 25Meg Up/Down
PE_Tigar Posted December 21, 2012 Posted December 21, 2012 Looks like I'm headed back to FC2 for a better game experience. You can keep the graphics, but I do wish I had my $40 bucks back (same thing I wish after buying Combined Arms)! :P One word - beta.
Cali Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 The upcoming release moves to 2.2.3 which is a major change. Maybe they'll remove FC3 from beta I think it will be in beta for a while. i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED
dores893 Posted December 22, 2012 Author Posted December 22, 2012 Beta = Take your money now, give you a complete product later.
sobek Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 What are you actually complaining about? Because from my point of view, the only one you should be angry at is yourself for buying into a product at a stage that was clearly advertised as beta. Be a little careful about that attitude, it might just come around and bite you in the buttocks. ;) Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
dores893 Posted December 22, 2012 Author Posted December 22, 2012 I think by far the most interesting thing about FC3 and DCS world is how it has been crafted around the Americans. There is a thriving FC2 community, and probably more people playing that game. But, if you go there, everyone speaks Russian. Makes sense given who developed the FC series. DCS World seems to be an American reconstruction of this community. I don't think the Russians will ever join the club, especially since they have been slighted in their aircraft. :) I think both are interesting, but FC2 is definitely the better survey experience as of now. By the way, if I took people's money for incomplete work I'd be fired. If the product has glaring deficiencies, then they should be LISTED and ADVERTISED with the product. Beta is hardly an excuse. Tell us what we are getting before we buy it. Full disclosure. If anything, it will bite the developers as they establish a reputation for their work.
joey45 Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 The head moncho is American. The Devs are Russian. The Publishers in Russia and CIS is Russian.* The Publishers world wide are British. *Last time I heard...:) The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Kalahari Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 (edited) I think by far the most interesting thing about FC3 and DCS world is how it has been crafted around the Americans. There is a thriving FC2 community, and probably more people playing that game. But, if you go there, everyone speaks Russian. Makes sense given who developed the FC series. DCS World seems to be an American reconstruction of this community. I don't think the Russians will ever join the club, especially since they have been slighted in their aircraft. :) I think both are interesting, but FC2 is definitely the better survey experience as of now. By the way, if I took people's money for incomplete work I'd be fired. If the product has glaring deficiencies, then they should be LISTED and ADVERTISED with the product. Beta is hardly an excuse. Tell us what we are getting before we buy it. Full disclosure. If anything, it will bite the developers as they establish a reputation for their work. Noone is dragged kicking and screaming to buy these products. Some of us are neither American nor Russian,so don't give a damn who is slighted. Keep your [edited] feelings to yourself. [Mod edit: Alright, no reason to start with namecalling.] Edited December 23, 2012 by sobek 1.2 System Specs : Processor ; Intel®Core i7-3930 CPU@ 3.20GHz. RAM -16.0 GB Type-64bit GPU-GTX 970 Never eject over a village you've just bombed - US Marines Gen.
EtherealN Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 Beta is hardly an excuse. Tell us what we are getting before we buy it. Full disclosure. If anything, it will bite the developers as they establish a reputation for their work. Beta isn't an excuse. If you pre-order the product, you get access to a beta as a thankyou. You're not purchasing the beta. If this does not seem agreeable to you, then you are of course free to wait until release with judging your purchase. Would it be better with pre-orders that do not give you anything? Starcraft 2: Heart of the Swarm - except for specific promotions, this does not give beta access nor earlier access to the finished product. Company of Heroes 2 can be pre-purchased, no early access to anything, and with "2013" as the only release date specification. Another similar case I found on a quick look is Tomb Raider, In these cases, I have not availed myself of the pre-purchase option. Others do. The difference is that in the case of FC3, you are rewarded with playable code immediately with your pre-purchase - that is the beta. If you don't want that, and don't want the problems that are inherent to beta code - don't use it. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
EtherealN Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 The upcoming release moves to 2.2.3 which is a major change. Maybe they'll remove FC3 from beta No, next update moves from 1.2.2 to 1.2.3. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
Steel Jaw Posted December 23, 2012 Posted December 23, 2012 There is a thriving [Russian online] FC2 community Fixed it for you. "You see, IronHand is my thing" My specs: W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, Red Dragon 7800XT/16GB, monitor: GIGABYTE M32QC 32" (31.5" Viewable) QHD 2560 x 1440 (2K) 165Hz.
droz Posted December 23, 2012 Posted December 23, 2012 (edited) Nav Mode: There is a small line under the compass degree on the HUD compass for the Direction Track for your next waypoint, and the Line is for left or right of the course programmed for the navigation for the mission. If line is left of center, turn left to intercept. If right, turn right to intercept. As well, the HSI and the Compass in the console will tell you the same. The HSI will also tell you if you are above or below the assigned altitude for the nav waypoint. If the horizontal bar is high, you need to climb. If it's low, need to descend. This is what the autopilot for nav mode follows. Edited December 23, 2012 by droz Windows 7 64bit AMD FX 8350 4.0GHZ 16BG Ram EVGA Geforce 760 GTX 2GB
sobek Posted December 23, 2012 Posted December 23, 2012 Guys, absolutely no namecalling, keep rule 1.2 in mind when posting or step away. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
HiJack Posted December 23, 2012 Posted December 23, 2012 No, next update moves from 1.2.2 to 1.2.3. I wish it was finished in 1 2 3 :D
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