domaniac Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 I'm playing A-10c and have noticed some enthusiasts have actual CDU panels for their simulators. It got me thinking how awesome it would be to be able to integrate my iPad or iPhone into the game to use specifically as a CDU panel. Is it possible for an app like this to be made? The devices already connect to normal USBs. I would certainly pay for this, but can the DCS Devs do it? Who's up to the task? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 I'm playing A-10c and have noticed some enthusiasts have actual CDU panels for their simulators. It got me thinking how awesome it would be to be able to integrate my iPad or iPhone into the game to use specifically as a CDU panel. Is it possible for an app like this to be made? The devices already connect to normal USBs. I would certainly pay for this, but can the DCS Devs do it? Who's up to the task? http://www.bit-shift.com PC: Asus P8Z77-M Mainboard; Intel i5-3570K (4x3,4Ghz) mit Scythe Mugen 3 CPU Kühler; 16Gb Corsair XMS3 1600Mhz; Nvidia GTX570 1280mb; Samsung 830 SSD; Samsung HDD Flight Sim Gear: TM Warthog; Saitek Pro Pedals; TM Cougars on an 19" screen; TrackIR 5 w/ trackclip pro; Logitech G35 headset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domaniac Posted January 6, 2013 Author Share Posted January 6, 2013 Oh that is excellent. Thank you my man. I looked all over Google for this before posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nr1jc Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 thats just so sweet, is this coming to android in the future? def. getting this when i can afford a tuch pad [sIGPIC]www.vjokers.no[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quirkitized Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 I'd love to see something like this for android as well. I have a galaxy s3 phone, screen would be big enough for a cdu I would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jotaele Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 I'd love to see something like this for android as well. I have a galaxy s3 phone, screen would be big enough for a cdu I would think. Im curently doing this in a android tablet.Im using air display so my tablet is a secondary monitor.In this virtual monitor, i place the helios interface, that i have customiced to my desires. CDU , mfd etc... http://www.gadrocsworkshop.com/ You can get here profiles for a10 that can restructured an dresiced to your device resolution. There are lot of info in forums about using helios and how to proper set up it. Fly and let fly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Android gets no love, and that's really upsetting, since it is infinitely more customizable. i7 7700K | 32GB RAM | GTX 1080Ti | Rift CV1 | TM Warthog | Win 10 "There will always be people with a false sense of entitlement. You can want it, you can ask for it, but you don't automatically deserve it. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBillKelsoe Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 I can tell you I use it on 2 and it is very fast, and must have for flying. AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quirkitized Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Im curently doing this in a android tablet.Im using air display so my tablet is a secondary monitor.In this virtual monitor, i place the helios interface, that i have customiced to my desires. CDU , mfd etc... http://www.gadrocsworkshop.com/ You can get here profiles for a10 that can restructured an dresiced to your device resolution. There are lot of info in forums about using helios and how to proper set up it. Interesting, I will have to look into that. The galaxy s3 has a 4.8" screen with a resolution of 1280x720 so I am sure it would look decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyntaxError Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Android gets no love, and that's really upsetting, since it is infinitely more customizable.Yeah just saw no android. :cry_2: F/A-18C - A-10C - FC3 - L-39C/ZA - Ka-50 - UH-1H - Mi-8MTV2 - F-86F - Spitfire - P-51D - P-47D - BF-109K - CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 IControl DCS: http://www.simhq.com/_mobile/mobile_006a.html Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
112th_Rossi Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 I have an iPad2, will definitely try this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebs Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 SkateZilla, that app was already posted in the very first reply. Btw, IControl is great but definitely on the pricey side. Takes a bit of setting up. But at least there's a lite version! Check out my guide to JSGME for DCS World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron886 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Considering what iControl does, that looks like a very fair price. I hadn't even thought seriously about the ability to show the contents of the MFCDs, not just the buttons for them. As someone in the market for a tablet (probably Android,) I'm very interested in an equivalent app for the android platform. Android seems to be the ideal place to write software like this, to me. Especially with the current and upcoming market saturation of Android-driven tablet devices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigersharkBAS Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 There is a reason for this. And it is not because Android is popular. It is just a bitch to develop for. It lacks a proper Integrated Development Environment (read...cludgey to develop) and you have to cater for so many screen types and various releases of Android it is a nightmare to test for. iOS is just easier. It's not an Apple is better than Android thing. It's more of a maturity thing. iOS being more mature and controlled (and yes...closed) just means it is easier to develop for. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Creator of: F-18C VFA-195 "Dambusters" 1998 CAG Livery https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=213788 F-18C VFA-195 "Dambusters" July 2001 CAG Livery https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=215950 Pilot avatars for DCS Logbook https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=221160 How to make a DCS A-10C Panel http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=65998 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttoPus Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 There is a reason for this. And it is not because Android is popular. It is just a bitch to develop for. It lacks a proper Integrated Development Environment (read...cludgey to develop) and you have to cater for so many screen types and various releases of Android it is a nightmare to test for. iOS is just easier. It's not an Apple is better than Android thing. It's more of a maturity thing. iOS being more mature and controlled (and yes...closed) just means it is easier to develop for. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.john_doe Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Im curently doing this in a android tablet.Im using air display so my tablet is a secondary monitor.In this virtual monitor, i place the helios interface, that i have customiced to my desires. CDU , mfd etc... http://www.gadrocsworkshop.com/ You can get here profiles for a10 that can restructured an dresiced to your device resolution. There are lot of info in forums about using helios and how to proper set up it. Hello, can some one please make a tutorial for doing this? I have a galaxy note 10.1. It would be great to do something like this: http://bit-shift.com/img/combo_full.png Greatings and regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boarder2 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 There is a reason for this. And it is not because Android is popular. It is just a bitch to develop for. It lacks a proper Integrated Development Environment (read...cludgey to develop) and you have to cater for so many screen types and various releases of Android it is a nightmare to test for. iOS is just easier. It's not an Apple is better than Android thing. It's more of a maturity thing. iOS being more mature and controlled (and yes...closed) just means it is easier to develop for. This is precisely why there's no iControl DCS for Android. Sorry guys :( Complain to Google if you want it. I don't have time to make an Android version since iControl DCS is a side project for me and there'd just be too much overhead with not enough extra revenue coming back in for my wife to not really hate me! :) Plus there's probably almost no way I'd be able to make it performant enough on some of the old crappy Android hardware floating around so people would be disappointed with performance and leave bad reviews, etc. iControl DCS/DCS Virtual Cockpit - Full featured iPad Cockpit - Now with Android support! A10 Virtual Cockpit Free - Free limited functionality version of iControl DCS! DCS Virtual Cockpit - Android version! Follow on Twitter for all the latest news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupyc Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Always gonna be haters. Considering Android has 75% of the global smart phone market, and quite a large (and growing, c'mon, $200 tablets?) chunk of tablet users, you're passing up a major opportunity to increase that revenue. You aren't just catering to the mostly American iDevice user set when you develop on Android, you're catering to a worldwide audience. A recent survey showed that most Android devices were running 2.3...meaning most should be capable of handling something like iControl DCS. Besides, if their hardware isn't compatible, you can say so, there are system requirements for regular software for regular computers, aren't there? :) Just my .02c, I think iControl DCS is awesome, and while I don't own a copy or an iPad, I have to give you mad props for taking an idea and making it reality! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The voice of the F-14 "Ambush" Trailer and F-14 Tomcat Instructor Pilot My Rig: Intel i5-7600k | MSI Z-270A PRO | 16GB DDR4 2400 | MSI nVidia GTX 1660 Ti | Saitek X52 Pro | TIR 4 w Pro Clip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedaway Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 (edited) Anyway, my dream is to have a fully operational/interactive CDU on my nexus 7. (and if a dev would add an UFC,... ;-) But I understand the dev's statement... Sad. Edited February 19, 2013 by Cedaway DCS Wish: Turbulences affecting surrounding aircraft... [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC] Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3P - Intel Core i5 6600K - 16Gb RAM DDR4-2133 - Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 G1 Gaming - 8 Go - 2 x SSD Crucial MX300 - 750 Go RAID0 - Screens: HP OMEN 32'' 2560x1440 + Oculus Rift CV1 - Win 10 - 64bits - TM WARTHOG #889 - Saitek Pro Rudder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigersharkBAS Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 (edited) It was disappointing to see soupyc's reply. I don't think boarder's or my reply was anything about hating. I specifically mention that isn't because Android is more popular. It's about the immaturity of the development environment. If you are a developer you perhaps have a greater understanding of the subtle complexities at play here. It isn't just a "Apple is better" or "Android is more popular" mechanic at play here. Most Android devices running 2.3 does not change the fact that there are a multitude of screen sizes for that each requiring different artwork to support the screen resolution. This equals more work. The problem with developing for Android has nothing to do whether it is better hardware, more open or more popular. It has everything to do with hardware fragmentation (UI designs for an ever increasing variety of formats), immaturity in integrated development and a return on investment of time in learning to develop for a platform that you are not familiar with. Are we passing up an opportunity for increased revenue?....perhaps. But we don't do this for a living where we can justify the time vs. the potential revenue we may get. Just some food for thought. I offer these links not to dump on Android but to offer some perspective and context as to why a developer might lean (both commercially and technically) toward a platform such as iOS (or even Win8 mobile for the matter). Visualising Android Fragmentation http://theunderstatement.com/post/11982112928/android-orphans-visualizing-a-sad-history-of-support http://pxldot.com/18281312362 Commercial Evidence to suggest developing for Android does not necessarily mean " a major opportunity to increase that revenue" as you put it http://www.tenfingercrunch.com/article/196/2012/11/26/mobile_market_share_not_equivalent_to_usage_share/ Why Netflix isn't making an Android version (hint: piracy) http://blog.netflix.com/2010/11/netflix-on-android.html And finally...another piracy link https://www.pcworld.com/article/259686/androids_piracy_problem_drives_dead_trigger_price_to_zero.html http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2012/05/wired-uk-android-game-piracy/ Edited February 19, 2013 by TigersharkBAS [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Creator of: F-18C VFA-195 "Dambusters" 1998 CAG Livery https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=213788 F-18C VFA-195 "Dambusters" July 2001 CAG Livery https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=215950 Pilot avatars for DCS Logbook https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=221160 How to make a DCS A-10C Panel http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=65998 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupyc Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 It was disappointing to see soupyc's reply. I don't think boarder's or my reply was anything about hating. I specifically mention that isn't because Android is more popular. It's about the immaturity of the development environment. Apologies for the misunderstanding, the hating comment was more directed at Boarders comment about ratings and whatnot. If you are a developer you perhaps have a greater understanding of the subtle complexities at play here. It isn't just a "Apple is better" or "Android is more popular" mechanic at play here. Most Android devices running 2.3 does not change the fact that there are a multitude of screen sizes for that each requiring different artwork to support the screen resolution. This equals more work. The problem with developing for Android has nothing to do whether it is better hardware, more open or more popular. It has everything to do with hardware fragmentation (UI designs for an ever increasing variety of formats), immaturity in integrated development and a return on investment of time in learning to develop for a platform that you are not familiar with. I was under the impression that the latest version of Android was meant to minimize device fragmentation. Plus, with as many devices are out there, wouldn't it be possible to allow the user to configure their 'display' setup and then customize panels from there? Are we passing up an opportunity for increased revenue?....perhaps. But we don't do this for a living where we can justify the time vs. the potential revenue we may get. As a full time professional, I completely understand this. Again, my intent was not to crap on your efforts. Just some food for thought. I offer these links not to dump on Android but to offer some perspective and context as to why a developer might lean (both commercially and technically) toward a platform such as iOS (or even Win8 mobile for the matter). Visualising Android Fragmentation http://theunderstatement.com/post/11982112928/android-orphans-visualizing-a-sad-history-of-support http://pxldot.com/18281312362 Commercial Evidence to suggest developing for Android does not necessarily mean " a major opportunity to increase that revenue" as you put it http://www.tenfingercrunch.com/article/196/2012/11/26/mobile_market_share_not_equivalent_to_usage_share/ Why Netflix isn't making an Android version (hint: piracy) http://blog.netflix.com/2010/11/netflix-on-android.html And finally...another piracy link https://www.pcworld.com/article/259686/androids_piracy_problem_drives_dead_trigger_price_to_zero.html http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2012/05/wired-uk-android-game-piracy/ The great majority of those links are from early 2012/2011. Have you looked into developing for Android 4.0? Netflix has an Android app, and its amazing. Piracy is a factor on all platforms. That shouldn't stop you. Like I said, I love that you guys have taken something and made it a reality. Just trying to provoke a discussion. :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The voice of the F-14 "Ambush" Trailer and F-14 Tomcat Instructor Pilot My Rig: Intel i5-7600k | MSI Z-270A PRO | 16GB DDR4 2400 | MSI nVidia GTX 1660 Ti | Saitek X52 Pro | TIR 4 w Pro Clip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigersharkBAS Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 OK Soupy..points taken. Sorry about the misunderstanding as well. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Creator of: F-18C VFA-195 "Dambusters" 1998 CAG Livery https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=213788 F-18C VFA-195 "Dambusters" July 2001 CAG Livery https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=215950 Pilot avatars for DCS Logbook https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=221160 How to make a DCS A-10C Panel http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=65998 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boarder2 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 It was disappointing to see... Yeah, this is pretty much my sentiment exactly. No bashing anything, in fact I like Android for what it is. I just wish it were easier to develop for, and less fragmented with devices. Until it's at least easier to develop for, I just can't spend time on it :) iControl DCS/DCS Virtual Cockpit - Full featured iPad Cockpit - Now with Android support! A10 Virtual Cockpit Free - Free limited functionality version of iControl DCS! DCS Virtual Cockpit - Android version! Follow on Twitter for all the latest news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jib Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Think of Touch Control as a possible alternative to iControl DCS if you want to create your own layouts and add support for new modules as they come along. Sorry iOS only no Android support. Mods I use: KA-50 JTAC - Better Fire and Smoke - Unchain Rudder from trim KA50 - Sim FFB for G940 - Beczl Rocket Pods Updated! Processor: Intel Q6600 @ 3.00GHz GPU: GeForce MSI RTX 2060 6GB RAM: Crucial 8GB DDR2 HDD: 1TBGB Crucial SSD OS: Windows 10, 64-bit Peripherals: Logitech G940 Hotas, TrackiR 5, Voice Activated commands , Sharkoon 5.1 headset. ,Touch Control for iPad, JoyToKey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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