KLR Rico Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I don't think it'd be necessary to shake the view. I know when I ride on a rough road, I don't detect any vibration, but my camera sure does! i5-4670K@4.5GHz / 16 GB RAM / SSD / GTX1080 Rift CV1 / G-seat / modded FFB HOTAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBillKelsoe Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Just shake your head in a violent manner when you fire it. Problem solved. OMG you're a beast!!!! HEHEHEHEEEEE:lol: One thing came to mind when you said it; Four Lions head shake..:thumbup: AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RepoMan Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 I been on the ground when the gau-8 opens up. It's like zeus himself is mad and sent an evil dragon roaring through the sky. The sound is eery. Sounds like a roar to me. Glad it's on our side. - Coffee Lake i7k @ 5.1GHz (delidded, custom loop) - EVGA 1060 6GB (video card crisis purchase) - 32GB DDR4 @ 3333 15 CAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedaway Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 As the pilot's body shakes at the same frequency and amplitude as its aircraft, he should feel the vibration but not really 'see' it. Its eyes are 'syncronized' in shake with the hud's shake. Let's call that the Avenger's Harlem Shake ;) DCS Wish: Turbulences affecting surrounding aircraft... [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC] Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3P - Intel Core i5 6600K - 16Gb RAM DDR4-2133 - Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 G1 Gaming - 8 Go - 2 x SSD Crucial MX300 - 750 Go RAID0 - Screens: HP OMEN 32'' 2560x1440 + Oculus Rift CV1 - Win 10 - 64bits - TM WARTHOG #889 - Saitek Pro Rudder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLR Rico Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Its eyes are 'syncronized' in shake with the hud's shake. Pretty sure it doesn't work like that.... You know, with how eyes and airframes have different damping and resonance properties, along with all those other crazy things that vibration depends upon. ;) i5-4670K@4.5GHz / 16 GB RAM / SSD / GTX1080 Rift CV1 / G-seat / modded FFB HOTAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyroflash Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Pretty sure it doesn't work like that.... You know, with how eyes and airframes have different damping and resonance properties, along with all those other crazy things that vibration depends upon. ;) No, but you won't really notice it anyways. Your brain will adjust for vibration, so you won't really notice it. If you aim for the sky, you will never hit the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Sorry, and not trying to be rude but I gotta LOL at all the "experts" in this thread ;). I actually asked a current A-10C pilot when he was flying our A-10C at a trade show whether we should add a little vibration to blur the view when firing the gun. He said no. I've asked a handful of our pilots and have gotten basically a 50/50 answer. Some say you can feel it, others said no. The one thing all have said is the smell is overwhelming! v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website | v303rd Fighter Group Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG14_Smil Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 (edited) Ever think of rigging something that actually shakes, instead of litening to these silly arguments? If the camera moves, it be shakin`. Edited March 27, 2013 by JG14_Smil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irregular programming Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 (edited) Sorry, and not trying to be rude but I gotta LOL at all the "experts" in this thread ;). I've asked a handful of our pilots and have gotten basically a 50/50 answer. Some say you can feel it, others said no. The one thing all have said is the smell is overwhelming! It's called common sense, a 30 mm round from a cannon will not cause an 11 ton aircraft to violently shake. I am sure you might be able to feel it. But that is not seeing it, there is no way that firing this gun from this aircraft would shake it in any way that would be visible to the human eye. Edited March 27, 2013 by Irregular programming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBillKelsoe Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 here is something to mimic the smell... you know these kid revolver pistols (with red 6 plastic pellets)?? Just have one handy in the throttle hand... pow pow pow pow pow pow... you'll have a room full of powder... AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adi Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 It's called common sense, a 30 mm round from a cannon will not cause an 11 ton aircraft to violently shake. I am sure you might be able to feel it. But that is not seeing it, there is no way that firing this gun from this aircraft would shake it in any way that would be visible to the human eye. I don't believe that people expect it to violently shake, a little vibration on top of the engines could be plausible. I'm sure if you had your head pinned back on the headrest, you would definitely see it then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatzWarhog Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I say watch 3:10 through 3:35. I doubt he has any reason to lie, and the video pretty much speaks for itself. Matz AMD FX8350 @ 4.2Ghz x 8, Asus M5A99FX Pro UEFI Board, 16Gb RAM @1600Mhz, EVGA GTX660 2Gb DDR5, 120Gig Corsair SSD SATA3 Boot Drive, Dual Corsair SSD FORCE 60Gig for gaming, TM Warthog HOTAS and Cougars, Saitek Proflight Pedals, TrackIR 5 w/Pro Clip, and WAY Too much time on my hands. :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobek Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 It's called common sense, a 30 mm round from a cannon will not cause an 11 ton aircraft to violently shake. A 0.4 kilogram round being accellerated to 990m/s over a distance of just 2.3 metres. The gun supposedly has a recoil force equivalent to the weight-force of 4.5 tons on earths surface. Looking at that number, any vibration being absent must be credited to vibration damping mounts used for the gun, not the force being insignificant. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 And how close is the pilot sitting to the big gun... The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubris Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I am against this. Please no shake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealius Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 How about optional shake, just like the "head motion" option in the settings. I had to turn that off because it was making things disorienting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeyTheLung Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 How about optional shake, just like the "head motion" option in the settings. I had to turn that off because it was making things disorienting. The view already "shakes" in a subtle way with that setting enabled... Am I really the only person that's noticed this? ...Enable the "head movement from g-forces" checkbox in the options, fire the gun, look at the edges of your FOV (the edge of your screen, you don't have to pan your vitual head). You can't miss the effect. ...or I'm completely insane System specifications: Computer, joystick, DCS world, Beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madone Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 The view already "shakes" in a subtle way with that setting enabled... Am I really the only person that's noticed this? ...Enable the "head movement from g-forces" checkbox in the options, fire the gun, look at the edges of your FOV (the edge of your screen, you don't have to pan your vitual head). You can't miss the effect. ...or I'm completely insane I'm going to check this out, but if it's there, it wasn't noticeable for me! Strike Posture Set CAS Center of Excellence Intel Core i5 4690k @4,6Ghz, Gigabyte GTX 970 OC, Gigabyte Z97-X, 16GB G Skill Sniper @2400, Samsung 860/850 EVO , Win 10 64 bits, Dual monitors 27"@144"Opentrack + TM Warthog + Saitek pro flight combat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealius Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Wasn't noticeable to me either. The only thing I noticed was the nauseating effect "head movement from g-forces" had when coupled with my FreeTrack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLR Rico Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Ok, shakes or no shakes... have any of you guys seen the Russian's heavy aircraft cannon? GSh-6-30 I'm sure that one shakes the plane and pilot noticeably! Supposedly to the point of damaging the airframe. :D i5-4670K@4.5GHz / 16 GB RAM / SSD / GTX1080 Rift CV1 / G-seat / modded FFB HOTAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[VAF] Shocker Posted April 2, 2013 Author Share Posted April 2, 2013 Interesting :) RIAT 2013 is coming up so I will try and put some questions together to ask pilots :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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