BRooDJeRo Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 :dunno: I don't know what to believe anymore, i gave up...
HiJack Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 Well, yes, if you're going to release Starr Bumble Bee II or similar modules. For all else with flames shooting out of collective a$$es on take-off one definitely needs a very, very large map :D :megalol:
Mainstay Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 Is this for commercial customers like us or only for proffesional helo academy companies?
159th_Viper Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 or only for proffesional helo academy companies? For a specific company only, Concord XXI. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Python Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 Well the thread started well at least ;) I guess we'll find out how representative of edge those videos are soon enough. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
cichlidfan Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 Well the thread started well at least ;) I guess we'll find out how representative of edge those videos are soon enough. As long as you have a very loose definition of soon. ;) ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
upupandaway Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 The material looks pretty similar to the images of EDGE ED has made public so far. I guess it´s a nice approximation / additional showcase of what we might expect short to medium term, but at the same time sad because we might not get all of this. Then again isn´t ED free to release maps from commercial products again for DCS since they own the rights? The only real obstacle is the secrecy concerning military matters, right? Love the videos - I need to start upgrading my PC again ^^ I think I can udnerstand why ED has kept the lid on this for so long - no telling what kind of speculation coupled with all the expectations this would have broken loose around here... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Deedle, deedle!
sobek Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) The only real obstacle is the secrecy concerning military matters, right? No, the obstacle is the terms under which both parties entered an agreement, if they prohibit public use (because it may lessen the value of that product for example) we are out of luck. Edited September 16, 2013 by sobek Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
SyntaxError Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) My take on this is the map will be released alongside the Hornet for a separate fee. My question is would ED have any rights to the map if this http://www.altwolf.com/ company is developing it? Or would it be up to altwolf to give/sell the map to Eagle? Otherwise I'm extremely excited for EDGE and Nevada, even if this fly-through was supposedly running with 3 high ends. Edited September 16, 2013 by SyntaxError F/A-18C - A-10C - FC3 - L-39C/ZA - Ka-50 - UH-1H - Mi-8MTV2 - F-86F - Spitfire - P-51D - P-47D - BF-109K - CA
BRooDJeRo Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 Well, it seems like we're all very curious to the business/political side around Corsica, EDGE, Belsimtek and Eagle Dynamics. The question remains if public relations has ticklish feelings for spreading some unofficial news. At least grant us a nice news article when we only get to replay the video. :music_whistling:
upupandaway Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 No, the obstacle is the terms under which both parties entered an agreement, if they prohibit public use (because it may lessen the value of that product for example) we are out of luck. Hm, ok - I get that general logic of course, but it´s inhumane and outright cruel. Then again, what´s the specific aspect that would lessen the commercial value of such a product (specifically a map) if it is publicly available? The army wants a simulator to train their pilots, big companies want to train theirs - they don´t redistribute the simulator, or are themselves offering this training as a service to others in which case it is understandable not to have it freely available. As I see it, a simulator is more like an acqusition that starts to depricate immediately after being acquired. It´s like machine or a physical tool and apart from military secrets I´m having a hard time imagining why its value would be diminished if it were publicly available. And on the other hand, if it is available for a greater number of potential customers, ED can stretch their development cost over the projected number of sales and it would in the end be less costly for one party to have this product developed (potentially). For the developers themselves the workload and cost / investment to engineer this stuff stays the same no matter how many people are buying it. EDIT: Or were you referring to a hypothetical contract between Altwolf and ED? In that case it makes much more sense of course. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Deedle, deedle!
159th_Viper Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 ...or are themselves offering this training as a service to others in which case it is understandable not to have it freely available. This is exactly what is happening, the service Concord XXI is providing. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
upupandaway Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 Ah ok, I always thought of these commmercial deals as very localized installations, like for military training at a specific location - with ED offering more or less the whole package. So they just produce a part (software) of a product / service that somebody else is selling in the end. Thx for the clarification. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Deedle, deedle!
HiJack Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 I hope Concord XXI will sell the terrain to the public or ED in some way to be released as a additional map for DCS World. I will buy :D
159th_Viper Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 I will buy :D Vrrrroooooooooooooommmmmmmm :P Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
VanjaB Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 What I want to know is, when is the Su-33 module coming? EDGE seems to be a pipe dream right now, and these (confirmed NOT DCS) videos arent helping. Can anyone say vapourware???
SkateZilla Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 What I want to know is, when is the Su-33 module coming? EDGE seems to be a pipe dream right now, and these (confirmed NOT DCS) videos arent helping. Can anyone say vapourware??? I believe it was stated some where EDGE would be here by the end of this year? Everything is Subject to Change. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Teknetinium Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) PLZ I want to be transfared to Corsica, we could fly to Nice or Cannes from there. Edited September 16, 2013 by Teknetinium 51st PVO Discord SATAC YouTube
Phantom88 Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 W-O-W.........JUST.... W-O-W!!!!!!!!! Patrick
HiJack Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 Vrrrroooooooooooooommmmmmmm :P NICE! You make MOD?
diveplane Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 dedicated cpu to run those visuals I hope. https://www.youtube.com/user/diveplane11 DCS Audio Modding.
cichlidfan Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 dedicated cpu to run those visuals I hope. Without more information about the software/hardware involved, there isn't really much point in getting excited by these videos. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
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