AhSoul Posted October 6, 2013 Posted October 6, 2013 Whenever I start the A-10 from cold I never seem to be able to get the EAC light to go out. I flick the switch as one of the last steps but nothing happens. Is there something specific I must have missed for it not to work? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Soul's pit thread
xaoslaad Posted October 6, 2013 Posted October 6, 2013 After the CDU is ready T=4.0/0.8 and you hit NAV click the EGI button behind the stick. Next to TISL above TCN. After that the EAC button will stay.
sobek Posted October 6, 2013 Posted October 6, 2013 How long did you wait for your EGI to align before you switched to NAV mode. Edit: Sniped. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
NoCarrier Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 EGI must have aligned for the full 4 minutes, your CDU must be in Navigation mode, you must have EGI mode selected on the NMSP (Navigation Mode Select Panel), and both pitch and yaw SAS must be engaged. Those are the four direct requirements for EAC. Let us know if you need help with any of the above.
AhSoul Posted October 7, 2013 Author Posted October 7, 2013 Ah ok thank - I guess I'm just not waiting long enough :) Is there an indicator for the EGI align wait? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Soul's pit thread
Evil.Bonsai Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 On your cdu, it will have 4.0 0.8 (4.0 minutes after cdu starts up and aligning, 0.8 miles error in position; as the time increases, the error gets less)
howie87 Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 I don't think the 0.8 figure is miles... I remember reading somewhere that it signifies precision but I don't think it's a distance measurement.
AhSoul Posted October 7, 2013 Author Posted October 7, 2013 Very interesting thanks :) Will look out for that 4.0 then (and try and start the CDU up early) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Soul's pit thread
rob10 Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 Very interesting thanks :) Will look out for that 4.0 then (and try and start the CDU up early) Look for the 4.0.0.8 and it will start flashing when it hits this point and is ready to go.
Luzifer Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 I've stumbled over that too - it will tell you "INS NAV READY" before alignment is complete and you can switch to degraded NAV which will not allow EAC to activate (it will continue alignment and EAC will be available later). "INS NAV READY" will be flashing when it's really good to go.
ENO Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 Soul... at which point are you turning your CDU on? Not that this has anything to do with your issue- that question has already been answered... But depending on which cold start routine you're following, sometimes turning on the CDU is near the end of the process. "ENO" Type in anger and you will make the greatest post you will ever regret. "Sweetest's" Military Aviation Art
AhSoul Posted October 8, 2013 Author Posted October 8, 2013 I'm getting the CDU on really early - pretty much after the APU is up and running. Followed the steps above and waited for the 4.0 0.8 to show and my EAC went on correctly :) (BTW Eno I was on Eno's Firehouse server last night ;)) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Soul's pit thread
ENO Posted October 9, 2013 Posted October 9, 2013 Great to hear it! I'm sure the guys will be happy to have some new enthusiasts in there to hang out with... I was going to mention to get that CDU fired up as soon as possible (I can be through almost all my initial switches before the APU is spooled up). Sounds like you're ontop of it! "ENO" Type in anger and you will make the greatest post you will ever regret. "Sweetest's" Military Aviation Art
Smoky Posted October 9, 2013 Posted October 9, 2013 In my experience I cannot switch EGI/HARS or get EAC to arm properly until the plane has moved a few feet after INS warmup is completed.
Rongor Posted October 9, 2013 Posted October 9, 2013 Then you don't startup by the book and something got wrong...
NoCarrier Posted October 9, 2013 Posted October 9, 2013 In my experience I cannot switch EGI/HARS or get EAC to arm properly until the plane has moved a few feet after INS warmup is completed. Then you forgot to put the CDU in Nav mode. This is done automatically when you start moving.
Smoky Posted October 9, 2013 Posted October 9, 2013 Then you forgot to put the CDU in Nav mode. This is done automatically when you start moving. I think you are correct. Will recheck my procedure this evening. Thanks!
Hamblue Posted October 9, 2013 Posted October 9, 2013 AhSoul looking at this and your other thread I think you should download a checklist. It really will help and wont be needed for long before everything is second nature. Also the CDU starts when the APU is up to speed AND the APU generator is on. Asus Sabertooth P67 Motherboard 2600k CPU, 16 gig DDR3, 1600. Samsung 830, 256 gig hard drive, GTX780 Video Card, Warthog Hotas, Razer Mamba mouse. Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals. Trackir 5, Verizon FIOS 25Meg Up/Down
AhSoul Posted October 9, 2013 Author Posted October 9, 2013 Hi Hamblue. Yes you're probably right. Trying to commit all this to memory is getting quite tricky :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Soul's pit thread
Hamblue Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 Just google DCS A-10c startup checklist and print one or 2 out. Until you get the hang of it ignore the indicator tests. Keep the list basic to battery, inverter, CDU, CDU Generator etc. Do the start-up, taxi to runway and quit and start over until you have it down. An empty multiplayer mission is a good place to practice since you don't have to set anything up. Good Luck. :thumbup: Asus Sabertooth P67 Motherboard 2600k CPU, 16 gig DDR3, 1600. Samsung 830, 256 gig hard drive, GTX780 Video Card, Warthog Hotas, Razer Mamba mouse. Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals. Trackir 5, Verizon FIOS 25Meg Up/Down
ENO Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 (edited) It is obviously up to the individual but I found a routine that works really well for me and I'll share it- but keep in mind this is just the way I do it and I'm not saying it's better than anyone else's way. I start on my right thigh after batteries and inverter are all turned on and I get the APU started, then work my way around counter clockwise... it became a bit more intuitive for me though it's a bit unorthodox... CDU switches are generally first so I don't forget them (lol), then pitot heat and oxygen... then moving up to the front right of the panel I skip over the CMS package and hit the right MFCD, then over to left side, hitting anti skid, nosewheel light, left MFCD and give the SAI a twirl. If I'm going to bomb up after my general startup routine is complete then I'll leave the gunpac, TGP and laser alone and hit the day / night mode (if necessary), CICU, JTRS and IFFCC buttons... As I come down my left thigh and pass the ejection seat arm lever I hit that on the way past to hit my AM / FM / UHF radio dials. By that time, the APU completes its spool up and I flick the power on at which point many different systems start to come online. Then I'll hit my left throttle to get the engine startup moving- then SAS switches while going back up to click "enter" to get the IFFCC process started. I then go fire up CMS as I scan back to get my marker lights on flash to signify that I'm in the cockpit but not yet ready to roll. Once this has been complete, I can go back and fine tune things and have lots of time to monitor and make changes. My routine developed from being able to slowly move the mouse from my right thigh, up and across the front panel and down to the left... hitting everything that needed to be activated and flows quite smooth. Purists may shake their head but hey- it works for me. Edited October 10, 2013 by ENO "ENO" Type in anger and you will make the greatest post you will ever regret. "Sweetest's" Military Aviation Art
Hamblue Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 A lot of talking about moving down your thigh Eno. You trying to get the Ladies started? :kiss: Asus Sabertooth P67 Motherboard 2600k CPU, 16 gig DDR3, 1600. Samsung 830, 256 gig hard drive, GTX780 Video Card, Warthog Hotas, Razer Mamba mouse. Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals. Trackir 5, Verizon FIOS 25Meg Up/Down
ENO Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 Lol hey man- I'm the one with the gf who flies dcs a10 so whatever I did must be working ;) "ENO" Type in anger and you will make the greatest post you will ever regret. "Sweetest's" Military Aviation Art
roadrabbit Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 (edited) I do like the way you guys are thinking about the order of the checks and thighs and things, and thighs ........ :music_whistling: In a previous a/c we did the checks pretty much the route you have been following above. The route given in the A-10C checklist seems a little odd, even if taken from the RW. In modern a/c the preflight cockpit check is basically a quick scan across the panels to make sure anything that will kill you or damage the a/c is set to off. The next thing is to enable basic electrical power so that computers can be switched on, and, most importantly, gyro platforms can spin up and the alignment process can begin. This can take up to 15 minutes (yes, I know the A-10C is quicker!), so leaving the CDU until just before engine start is the item that seems the oddest in the A-10C checklist provided. Once the alignment process has begun, then you can do the detailed cockpit checks. This way, by the time you complete them, the alignment process should be just about complete and you are ready to go, with no time wasted. Otherwise you have to sit on your hands and wait ........... and wait ........ and wait ........ Edited October 10, 2013 by roadrabbit bad grammar Alpine Systems PC with Intel i7-2600K @ 3.40/3.70 GHz. NVidia GTX590 Graphics. 24 Gb RAM (24 Gb usable!). 64 bit. Windows 7 PRO SP1. 3 x Samsung P2370 monitors. Thrustmaster HOTAS. TrackIR5. :joystick:
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