Al-Azraq Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Tsss hey boy tsss, wanna see some .50 cal? i7 12700KF | MSI Z690 A-PRO | Corsair Vengeance 2x16 gb @ 3200 Mhz | RTX 3070 Ti FE | Acer XB271HU 1440P 144HZ | Virpil T-50 CM throttle | Virpil WarBRD Base + MongoosT-50 CM2 Grip | MFG Crosswind | TrackIR 5 | HP Reverb G2 Bf 109 K-4 | Fw 190 A-8 | Spitfire LF Mk. IX | P-51D | Fw 190 D-9 | P-47D | Mosquito FB VI | F/A 18C | F-14 A/B | F-16C | MiG-15bis | MiG-21bis | M-2000C | A-10C | AJS-37 Viggen | UH-1H | Ka-50 | Mi-24P | C-101 | Flaming Cliffs 3 Persian Gulf | Nevada | Normandy | The Channel | Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Not some but 8 of them :) 8 rapid firing 50cals :) System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 - What do you do if you meet a P-47 in the sky? - P-47? Shoot it down! One somewhat known german ace P-47 in DCS will be a pretty good attack aircraft, but an awful fighter. I mean, with DCS visibility you can't boom-zoom and most of the fights happen on the deck Yes, but i will buy it no matter. System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) Lets talk we have cockpit screen. 1. looks like 64" boost w/o water injection (unless gage not operational yet) 2.Automatic constant speed prop 3.Compressibility flaps 4. Gyro sight ? All the goodies are on board :) Oh boy boy this jug is running hot :) I was hoping for pre-order announcment :( Edited January 31, 2020 by grafspee System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saburo_cz Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 All external P-47 view show D-30 standard MK.VIII gunsight, one cockpit view shows MK.14 gyro... Which one will be used, or we will have option to select from them? F-15E | F-14A/B P-51D | P-47D | Mosquito FB Mk VI |Spitfire | Fw 190D | Fw 190A | Bf 109K | WWII Assets Pack Normandy 2 | The Channel | Sinai | Syria | PG | NTTR | South Atlantic F/A-18 | F-86 | F-16C | A-10C | FC-3 | CA | SC | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 All external P-47 view show D-30 standard MK.VIII gunsight, one cockpit view shows MK.14 gyro... Which one will be used, or we will have option to select from them? Maybe gyro sight was last call so team didn't bother with external gun sight model yet. System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvi Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 P-47 in DCS will be a pretty good attack aircraft, but an awful fighter. I mean, with DCS visibility you can't boom-zoom and most of the fights happen on the deck Boom & zoom is all I do in the Dora, why shouldn‘t it be possible in the P-47? Serious uglies Discord 4YA - Project Overlord WW2 Server My DCS Videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Boom & zoom is all I do in the Dora, why shouldn‘t it be possible in the P-47? For sake, i boom/zoom in p-51 only too :P System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zcrazyx Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 I would say sneak up on 190s but who are we kidding, hiding the 47 is like hiding a house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msalama Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 with DCS visibility you can't boom-zoom Yes you can. And most fights are on the deck only because most people are clueless furballers. The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 In case p-47 it is BooM n ZooM System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozon Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 I would say sneak up on 190s but who are we kidding, hiding the 47 is like hiding a house In the jug you do not hide - you come above them and blot out the sun! “Mosquitoes fly, but flies don’t Mosquito” :pilotfly: - Geoffrey de Havilland. ... well, he could have said it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Any idea what is crit alt for this p-47 version ? System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Legioneod Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) Any idea what is crit alt for this p-47 version ? Depends on the power settings we get. For the D-30 at 64" it's around 24,500ft, if we get 56" it's around 29,000 and if we get 70" it's around 21,500ft. Keep in mind the P-47 still has alot of power above critical altitude and is still plenty fast. P-47s were getting 430-440mph at 29000ft when running 56", once they boosted the power to 64"-70" they were hauling those speeds around 21-24k but could still pull 56" at 29,000ft iirc. EDIT: Was wrong about CA of 70", report list critical altitude of 70" at 21,500ft not 23,000 that I posted. Edited February 3, 2020 by Legion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Depends on the power settings we get. For the D-30 at 64" it's around 24,500ft, if we get 56" it's around 29,000 and if we get 70" it's around 23,000ft. Keep in mind the P-47 still has alot of power above critical altitude and is still plenty fast. P-47s were getting 430-440mph at 29000ft when running 56", once they boosted the power to 64"-70" they were hauling those speeds around 23-24k but could still pull 56" at 29,000ft iirc. I know a little how it works. Was asking about this model looks like we will have 64" with water. I know that at some point max turbo rpm was elevated to 22k from 18k or 20k don't remember exactly. This will impact crit alt too System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legioneod Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 I know a little how it works. Was asking about this model looks like we will have 64" with water. I know that at some point max turbo rpm was elevated to 22k from 18k or 20k don't remember exactly. This will impact crit alt too Yep, D-30 at 64" it's 24,500 critical altitude, any higher and you'll start to drop in power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bidartarra Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 I really have no idea how can you see twinkling contacts against the ground on any reasonable distance while flying like 1-2km higher than the enemy. Same, the spotting mechanics aren't great to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
122sqn Bruv Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 I really have no idea how can you see twinkling contacts against the ground on any reasonable distance while flying like 1-2km higher than the enemy. Do you fly with VR? I've seen some videos where the Icon/label marks the contact from way out putting non VR users at a big disadvantage in terms of SA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philstyle Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Hi poeple who know about the P47. Can someone point me to a compairson of the D-25 versus the D-30? I've been told that the D-30 wasn't operational until "late" 1944. It seems that the D-25 was operational by May 1944. Does the D-30 represent a significant jump in performance over the D-25 (i.e. does the D-30 suit a Normandy scenario)? On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/philstylenz Storm of War WW2 server website: https://stormofwar.net/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozon Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Hi poeple who know about the P47. Can someone point me to a compairson of the D-25 versus the D-30? I've been told that the D-30 wasn't operational until "late" 1944. It seems that the D-25 was operational by May 1944. Does the D-30 represent a significant jump in performance over the D-25 (i.e. does the D-30 suit a Normandy scenario)? D25 started operations around DDay. Not sure if they actually flew in DDay itself. D25 was the first bubble canopy variant. During DDay and the following couple of months, older Razorback jugs were still by far the more common variants. D30 vs. D25 - D30 added a dorsal fin that extends the base of the verical tail along the back towards the cockpit. This was added to increase lateral stability which was lost with the removal of the “razor” from the back in the D25. Also, water injection power increased a bit by ~100 HP. “Mosquitoes fly, but flies don’t Mosquito” :pilotfly: - Geoffrey de Havilland. ... well, he could have said it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philstyle Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 D25 started operations around DDay. Not sure if they actually flew in DDay itself. D25 was the first bubble canopy variant. During DDay and the following couple of months, older Razorback jugs were still by far the more common variants. D30 vs. D25 - D30 added a dorsal fin that extends the base of the verical tail along the back towards the cockpit. This was added to increase lateral stability which was lost with the removal of the “razor” from the back in the D25. Also, water injection power increased a bit by ~100 HP. Thanks Bozon . . somewhat frustrating news for me unfortunately. It's going to be hard to justify including the DCS P47 in multiplayer scenarios that focus on the normandy campaign it seems. What a shame . . . building anything other than a furball/ free for all seems all-but-impossible with the DCS plane/ maps and assets set. On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/philstylenz Storm of War WW2 server website: https://stormofwar.net/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saburo_cz Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 The main difference between D-25 and D-30 were dive flaps. D-30 were produced with increased WEP from 2300 to 2535HP, D-25 needed retrofited with kit for it, it was with 100/130 fuel. Minor were different propeller, but it could change during service, flor in cockpit, some changes inside cockpit. Both models left factory without dorsal fin, both were retrofited with it. F-15E | F-14A/B P-51D | P-47D | Mosquito FB Mk VI |Spitfire | Fw 190D | Fw 190A | Bf 109K | WWII Assets Pack Normandy 2 | The Channel | Sinai | Syria | PG | NTTR | South Atlantic F/A-18 | F-86 | F-16C | A-10C | FC-3 | CA | SC | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) Thanks Bozon . . somewhat frustrating news for me unfortunately. It's going to be hard to justify including the DCS P47 in multiplayer scenarios that focus on the normandy campaign it seems. What a shame . . . building anything other than a furball/ free for all seems all-but-impossible with the DCS plane/ maps and assets set. Who cares ? We will get New map soon, additional for this we have plenty planes already not fitting in to normandy map. D-30 was announced like 20 years ago so you woke up just in time to complain about it. Edited February 3, 2020 by grafspee System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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