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Glad you got it sorted out! Happy to help out as I have been helped out by countless others around here!

OK.. I didnt realize you were trying to use MGRS. I suspect when you made the point, you made it a Waypoint instead of a Target point. You should then see it under the WP menu rather than the COORD menu. You can still use a WP as an acquisition source. I just tried it though and this is what I did to make a Target point: Set Phase to ATK Go to POINT, ADD click on the POINT until TG shows up. On the KBU for IDENT, type TG <Enter> Enter Free Text if desired Then enter the MGRS (removing one digit so there are only 4 numbers in each block. Enter Altitude <ENTER> You should then have T01 in the COORD Page. You can select it as acquisition source. I made a little TRACK showing it. I used the SCRATCHPAD utility to copy down the coordinates for the target point. You can't see that in the track, but trust me the coords I entered for T01 were on that Map Object. After I selected it as the Acquisition Source, I hit SLAVE on the TADS. Note I selected a point close by, but it could be ANYWHERE (just you won't see it in the TADS when it is far away or not in LOS) I did go into ATK Phase so the T01 would show up on the TSD. Could just as well have made it a WP in NAV phase and used THAT as the ACQ source. See the Manual page 193 for ADDING a POINT. for better instructions than I gave you T01 Slave.trk

These videos had me Storin' and Slavin' real quick.. ( 1st one Won't embed for some reason) https://youtu.be/LRXdeBcp830 Basically just click COORD, click the T01 and SLAVE. OR first select ACQ (R6) and select the number on the bottom row... B5 and select the T01 point. You may or may not have to hit SLAVE. Make sure the Target you are trying to slave is within the TADS field of view!! A few times, the helo had rotated a bit and I couldn't figure out why it wasn't working, but the TADS just could not get there.

Heh... in LB2 and EECH I almost NEVER used Autohover. Point of Pride to be able to Hover the Helo manually. The DCS AH-64D has totally wounded said PRIDE and I am ready for auto hover to come back. MAYBE I will finally git gud at it BEFORE hover hold appears and I can once again hold my head (and the helo) up high!!

What I figured. Thanks for the response..

So after a few videos on the subject I have been going crazy storing Target Points. It gets to the "point" that I want to start deleting them when they are either already prosecuted or I cannot remember which was which. I know how to delete them from the TSD with the POINT MENU and cursor, but this gets difficult especially when they are close together and there is one big red blob. Seems like it would be useful to be able to delete them from the COORDS Page on the TSD, but I haven't figured that out, if it is possible at all. Is there a way? - One thing I have tried is to just make them 2 or 3 at a time, and after prosecuting, use the STO/UPDATE to overwrite the last one created. This keeps things neater, but I would still like an easy way to DELETE them. -There is an POINT SELECT option from POINT menu to select them from the KBU (haven't tried this yet) which would make it easier to designate particular T0x points without trying to cursor through a sea of red blobs. That's probably the next best way, but it would be so easy to just pick them off the COORD page!

Sorry... should have been clearer. I knew that the video didn't address your particular issue, I just raised it to say there are a lot of odd issues with the gun at this point. Sorry for the red herring.

Have you all seen CASMO's Video? Some odd stuff going on when the gun is pointing off to the side as well.

I've been perplexed that, when flying as CPG, I have George (in a hover) ALIGN the aircraft with TADS. I get a PERFECTLY superimposed I-Beam on the LASED and RANGED TADS target..... and more often than not the rockets miss by quite a lot laterally and longitudinally.

Yeah.. this was the question I asked above when I thought you couldn't fire from the Backseat. I looked through the manual and ALL the references to firing were from the CPG seat. LOL.. that will teach me to RTFM!!!

Just to get you pointed in the right direction and knowing the range so the missile seeker has a chance of picking up the laser and the missile can reach. Ahhh sweet.. I have to try this.. Didn't know you could WAS the missiles and George would keep lasing.

I am pretty sure ONLY the gunner can fire the Hellfires. I was wrong and corrected later in the thread. Thanks. The ACQ source doesn't have to be set to SEEKER. I think CASMO explained this as the "poor man's Laser Spot Tracker" as it just allows you to slave the TADS to wherever the Seeker is looking so you can see a laser spot. For LOAL, any ACQ source that allows you to get the aircraft lined up with the Target (and give you a range indication to know when to fire will work) Does make you wonder why the pilot can WAS them from the Cyclic, though... IF the backseater can fire a Hellfire (don't think so, at least at this time) make sure the Trigger Guard is open.

You may have set the Acquisition Source to GHS (Gunner Helmet Sight) and hit the SLAVE button. The TADS will now follow your head. Hitting SLAVE again will deslave it and put it back to the TADS slew as long as TADS is the sight.

Could be! Verification vs. Setting in the case of NAVIGATION or LASER..It is sort of a moot point as it all seems to work fine but I thought I was missing some other RANGE SOURCE setting. Going through the COLD STARTS, I find lots of setting on pages I otherwise wouldn't ever think to look for

Right, I get that. What I was wondering about was the manual SEEMED to suggest there was a specific setting to make/verify similar to setting the Ranging to AUTO using the A in the keyboard unit. I almost always get good results in the CP/G seat when I have a TADS target lased and attack with Gun (without making any other settings) and when I use a Point as the ACQ source, I usually end up fine tuning with TADS and lasing anyway. Just wondering if there were any other Keyboard entries to adjust this similar to the "A" for Auto based on what the Manual said, especially since it says Range SOURCE to NAVIGATION if ACQ is set to POINT which suggested to me that the RANGE source is set differently from the ACQ source.

Will hijack this thread to ask a related question: In the Manual: pg 275: How do you select "Laser, Navigation..." on the page? I know that highlighting the MANRNG button B6 and entering A in the KBU sets to AUTO, but how to change to LASER or NAVIGATION? Pretty much it seems that when I have a target lased in the TADS, the gun is pretty accurate with no other settings, so I assumed it was automatic. Not sure how to make the settings described in the Manual..

THIS Trigger not the Weapon Trigger

You can use a switch vs. momentary button on your HOTAS. I use my Speedbrake switch for the Laser and it continues to fire as long as the switch is in the position mapped to Detent 2

Hmmmm there were some F-15's buzzing around in that mission, but they were far away. Come to think of it, I didn't turn on the ASE page to see what it indicated. I was surprised the SA-5 didn't blow me out of the sky if it was detecting me, but I was pretty well masked by terrain. Going to have to try this again and see, Good information on the F-15 possibility.

Thought I would ask here before posting in the BUG forum (and recording a TRACK). I was flying a mission where there was an SA-5 site (I built the mission, so I am sure of the SAM type) but I got a warning of an SA-15 radar tracking. Bug in the voice sample? SAM database still a WIP? I did check the mission file to see if there were any SA-15's ANYWHERE, but there were NOT.

Thanks guys! I am just going to have to hop in the front seat if I want to see pretty pictures, or have another human in there to show them to me.

Ahh ok, thanks. So the Pilot View of the TADS is basically repeating the CP/G view who has control of the Sensor. That makes Sense, I guess. I am surprised the controls are even active for the Pilot MFD then. I get the W N Z selections on my display.

When I am in the Pilot seat and using GEORGE as gunner, I bring up the TADS in my Left MFD to see what he is targeting. Even when I hit the Z button on the display to ZOOM all the way, I can barely see the targets. Is there some other way to zoom the TADS in the PILOT MFD? I am most likely missing something...

I have mine set to the Right Eye as well, but it seems overly large compared to the way it sits in front of the cockpit frame in 2D. I will try to capture some images to explain what I mean. Others have complained about this, so it seems to plague a number of VR users. I found it got a little better when I DECREASED resolution...but, obviously, I want the highest resolution possible that allows good performance.

How is your IHADSS? Even when running well, I find it seems overly large/far away and I have trouble seeing the Altitude/VVI unless I look to the side or up