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Kindly reminding y'all to stay on-topic and not to break forum rules. And thanks for the support, comments and tracks. I will continue posting tracks here, same tests and some different ones. And again inviting everyone to post tracks To ED : As I said in my 1st post, problem is not simply the doppler gate. It is the guidance. And it got broke after you pushed an update 1 year ago. And you don't have to be missile expert to know that a radar can distinguish a target within 1.5nm flanking hot aspect from the ground clutter. And at high altitudes, it can ignore the ground clutter at 30k MSL while target is just 5nm ahead of it. No rants, no insulsts. We just want things to change, as I will actually stop playing and will look for other games in a month or so. Again reminding, stay on topic and post tracks people

OB 2.7.14.23966 (18.05 Latest Patch) - Weapons. AIM-120. Fixed tracking issues due to wrong reference range gate choice when target locked. 1st test, going to do some more later today but don't have much time atm. Close range low alt shots, can be seen in the vid and the .trk sum: I think its still the same 2.trk

We fixed this by fresh windows installation. Tried every other method but none of them did not do anything, so if you guys can not fix, have the fresh windows install as a plan B.

Another 5 tracks from me. This time focused on just manuevering instead of notching, but AMRAAM wants to be notched anyway 1- 5.5nm shot at 15k MSL, co altitude. No notch, ecm or draining its energy. Only chaffing and turning. I think we can all agree such range was pretty lethal with old amraams. 2- Diving against a low-to-high launch with 4k alt seperation. 4.81nm Not leading it into the ground or using chaff. 3- Another dive against lo-high, 3k alt seperation, 4.64nm. Using chaff. 4- 15k MSL co altitude, 5.5nm shot. Dive with chaff. 5- Can't remember exact parameters but some dive stuff again. Similar to 3rd. Hot aspect in all tests, and AMRAAM always had plenty of energy to be able to manuever and hit. Leaving the tracks : lo-hi dive no chaff.trk dive 3.trk dive 2.trk mid alt - chaff + turn.trk mid alt - dive + chaff.trk

Thank you all for the support and the comments. In the meantime I'd like to point out this for the good of everyone : This thread is for AIM-120 being broken. Meaning any kind of comparison of it with other missiles, discussing other bugs of other missiles or systems and arguing it's how it should be is totally irrelevant to topic. So, please do not go off-topic. Moderators will lock the thread if it goes too off-topic, and that is not something we'd like. We need threads like this to live long and close if things actually get fixed. Note to forum moderators and ED about this -> DO NOT close or move this thread, until it gets actually fixed and verified as so. It is a bug report with tracks. If this gets locked, I'll not get tired of creating new ones. Another thing. I know many of us are frustrated, and know that I am as frustrated as you. But, if we break forum rules, it'll be a reason for moderators to bring this thread down. So please do not do that. Critisise the product, harshly if you want, but within the rules. If you disagree with whats being said here, and you think missiles are fine, please go and create your thread to debate it there. It does not cost money or anything else and would free us from unnecessary waste of time, as it has been discussed numerous times before. And again, I am inviting all competitive players to send tracks here, or on new threads. I will also post some more tracks with different launch conditions and will post the .miz to here for anyone else wants to give it a try.

My video pretty much explains my and many other people's frustration. AMRAAMs are broken. There is also other missiles broken, but AMRAAM is worst imo. If someone tries to tell me its working good, please watch the video or tracks beforehand. And if u insist on telling that, please leave the thread. AMRAAM guidance logic has been broken since the INS update that came in late 2021. ED then said it is a new wip model : + It is broken. Definitely not working properly and you don't need many people to test it. Can be seen in 1 min of gameplay. - It's a wip feature. Thats why open beta exists + You released this to stable as well? - It's WiP and team is aware. More updates to come This what's been going on for months. I've made 3 quick tests. 1- Notching WITHOUT RWR. RWR was turned off, no datalink or radar contact, no labels. This one was for people who think RWR is to blame. Yes, RWR in DCS might be too perfect, agreed. But this is not the reason 120C-5 being too easy to notch. See my tracks and video for this. You don't need the precise bearing indication that your RWR gives you. In fact, you don't even need an RWR. 2- Notching with RWR, low altitude, hot aspect, flat terrain and short range. Pretty much explained this already. No terrain to hide behind or break LoS. Just an easy notch inside 5nm. 3- Notching with RWR, high altitude, hot aspect, and short range. This one was for people always saying it misses because of altitude. Here you go. 30K MSL, 8nm shot and an easy notch. I haven't been enjoying the time I spent in DCS for months, and that was a reson I gave a break and only playing for competitive matches. Everything buggy, everything is broken and I can't see anything changing. I was a supporter of ED for years, and still want the best for both ED and us. If nothing is going to change, there is no point of spending another penny for anything from DCS. Do something that makes sense. Give us a roadmap or state report about what's going on. Said before in another thread, repeating this : It was fine back in time. At least revert to late-2020 missiles if its possible. They were decent enough to enjoy. Meanwhile, devs could work on new missiles and if you need testing, theres many people would like to join CB and test it. But if you want to test something that is not worth to play, please do it in CB. Dropping my tracks and video (of tracks, for lazy people who do not want to dl the tracks and watch it in game) Archer out. As always, Im hoping for changes. And reminder : This is not a rant or insult to ED. As a customer, this is my critisism about something I've paid for, while wanting the best for ED and myself. lowalt NO RWR notch.trk lowalt notch.trk highalt notch.trk

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My friend also has this problem. The same problem on open beta. Updated GPU driver and Win10, got rid of all mods and did a clean install but it's still going. I can fly with free Su-25T and TF-51 fine but when I try to hop into another aircraft it crashes back to desktop. I also removed CA and only have F-16C installed right now but can't get into the cockpit. dcs (2).log

Fair point. I said PvP because whenever I try to say something about broken missiles some guy pops up and says "what is wrong its just fine bots can kill me easily with amraams?" Whether pvp or pve, 120s are garbage and definitely needs to be fixed. Can't believe why there were almost no topics about them meanwhile all other lower priority things getting taken care of.

+1. Theres really no point of discussing if its realistic or not, because even for an arcade, current state is unacceptable imo. Hoping to see ED to take this seriously and listen what PvP players say at some point.

Is it possible for them to just revert to old amraams if thats a thing? I understand it's open beta (although broken amraams are also in stable) but its been really long with these problems. If we could just get the old amraams at least we could enjoy literally only thing we do in DCS. Meanwhile team would work on new amraams and if they need testing they always have the cb testers (Late 2020 versions is what I mean by old amraams) @BIGNEWY

To put in some more flavor : Many broken things with amraams in a single round, very easy to reproduce in fact it always happens. Mind the altitudes, ranges, and aspects. Back in old amraams these ranges were horribly lethal. Tacview 2022.05.01 - 01.09.16.01 (streamable.com) ?? no description, just found it funny how these amraams can do this (launching to jettison them, without radar lock or memory guidance) Tacview_2022.02.18_-_17.18.17.10 (streamable.com) PvP in DCS has been really annoying for a long time, kinda started with phoenix desyncs and all. After many months, and many reports, its still being said there is nothing wrong with missiles and we can't see any improvement. Even though patch notes sometimes include fixes or adjustments, nothing changes. Im getting tired of saying "I hope they'll fix it" and kinda getting tired of being patient. This is not an insult. I and probably many others just want the best for both ED and us.

100% Agreed. There was another forum topic titled "is a bvr a thing of past?" and I definitely think it is. Other than public pvp servers, I can't remember a single long range (at this point with these amraams my lr definition is above 10+) amraam hit its target. AMRAAMs guidance logic is broken. Yeah doppler gate was also a problem but not the biggest one because missile will do something weird and either drain its energy or just dive into ground before the terminal phase doppler gate can be a factor. And even though in the patch notes its said to be adjusted, I couldn't see any difference in 3 hours of 1v1-2v2 all terrain testing. It'd be enough if they just revert to pre-ins update amraams, they also were not perfect but way better than what we have rn. After that update, amraam guidance logic is just guidance without actual logic imo

By looking to the numbers Im assuming this is a well in-range shot and I think its definitely not correct or intentional. 120s are tend to easily lose lock with straight diving/turning bandits for quite some time (after the INS update this got out of hand)

I have the same ghosty double-display problem, I really hope we'll get a fix for this asap

Can we export TEDAC display to secondary monitors? If so, what should be the device ID to put it in monitorsetup lua?

Squadron Name: VTAF Aircraft Selection: F-16, F-14, F-15, JF-17, F/A-18 Timezone: Mixed, 18z-19z is generally best time for us and preferably weekends Pilot Roster: [VTAF] Archer [VTAF] Grasshopper [VTAF] Jak [VTAF] Zachrix [VTAF] Alpha [VTAF] Mooncake [VTAF] Vincent +Reserves

I use hornet only for A/A and im not using TGP. So thats again not my concern. I dont want an axis that would replace the current one, im asking for a 2nd option to make it suitable for everyone's play style

This is a known long-going bug (i guess), constant rolls with a little AoA causes missiles to miss. Idk about if its in the works to fix, but ED did release a fix back a few updates. Seems like its still a thing

Squadron: Bravo&VTAF Timezone: Z+3, 1800z-1900z is best for us Aircraft: F-16C, F/A-18C Maps: Caucasus (may edit this later to add more)

Since i dont use the AZ/EL pg, thats not a concern to me, i still think that they should add a 2nd option for control so we can use it with rotaries.

Yeah i think the realism is not necessary in such things, we definitely should have another option to bind it to classical rotary knobs

I know that the control we have now is the same as the real one in the hornet, but can we get an axis control that is suitable for rotary knobs in throttles? By this i mean, in F-16 i can use radar elevation with a rotary knob, antenna position is scaled to rotary. But in the F/A-18, whenever i move my rotary for even 1°, elevation control constantly goes up or down. Again ik this is similar to the IRL hornet but its harder to use with many HOTAS throttles. 2 way hats act OK but i dont want to set my 2 way to radar elevation, im using it for airbrake. I wish you guys can add a maybe 2nd control option to make it suitable for rotary knobs, it'd really be better for many players imo

F-15E Over Port Stanley in formation

i was gonna report this but just saw this topic, and seriously why this is tagged as "later in development" in wishlist section?? we had this system till just 1 day ago and it was working fine