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Take that test with a grain of salt. It's rendering mostly grass an trees. Try Nellis downtown.

At the moment the feature that has more immediate effect is dlss and that is the most interesting part over Ray Tracing (they will keep adding Ray samples and throw fps down the drane each generation ) . That boosts fps considerably and for games that will support it a 4k monitor is finally viable at high fps. That being said, by the time you me its widespread, the 3080ti will be probably be out.

Love adored TV.

dont mind using pagefile off of my SSD's. I had pagefile running off my old vertex 3 SATA drive for 7 years. In that period most people would have upgraded twice anyway. SSD's are fast enough to use pagefile seamlessly. My old puters limiting factor was infact the CPU a 2500K. It was getting maxed out in all its paltry 4 threads.

32Gb. See my Sig.

yes, 4. See my Sig. Several others hit this and even 3600 in some cases. What kits you got? High frequency with 4 requires kits with Samsung B-die IC's. For 3200 kits of SAMSUNG B die you can dare go up to 3400. For 3600 you can try every frequency possible that the memory controller can handle. Also Google Ryzen DRAM calculator 1.4.0.1. It does all your homework for you. EDIT: here you go: https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/download-ryzen-dram-calculator.html Make sure you select the proper CPU and memory type and then hit XMP to upload your memory default timings into the tool and then it re-calculates everything for different frequencies.

also they have 2 tiers for the 2080Ti. The only difference between them is binning and the factory clocks (stock VS "overclocked" whatever that means). This probably accounts for the cheaper models. personally I would go with cheaper as the 400$ premium for superclocked variants getting you like 3 FPS more is a sad joke.

Not strictly out of the question, got mine at 3533mhz

browse through the product catalog page and if you have bonus points youll see how much each product can be discounted.

Had my former 1700x run 4x8 @3200 and upgraded to 2700x that runs same kits @ 3533. Official spec is not indicative of the speed you might actually get, that depends on the kits being listed for your board, cpu silicon lottery and the quality of the BIOS. Doesn't matter if the board is X370 or 470 (providing its from the same brand) , the biggest factors were already mentioned above.

I've seen the same benchmarks as you did on launch day. They show factory overclocked 2080 founder edition dual fan designs go against the stock single fan design of the 1080Ti FE. Meh. That was very shady but smart from NVIDIA marketing. When partners 1080Ti's were used the small difference in games that showed 100FPS+ all but evaporated away. See gamers nexus and hardware unboxed later post launch reviews. the 1080Ti will die at the same time as the 2080 does, when the 3080 is launched. DLLS and ray tracing wont arrive in time to change this. If it wasnt for dwindling stock the 1080Ti would probably outsell the 2080 into both of their end of life.

Your a bit mistaken, the 1080Ti VRAM peaks at 484GB/s, while the 2080 peaks at 448GB/s. The 1080Ti also has more cuda cores, higher clocks, the only advantage 2080 has is its new architecture, and some of that is for deep learning that DCS doesnt use. Im not saying either GPU is faster than the other because I have not tested or seen tests in DCS with both, however in multiplayer you might run into VRAM starvation symptoms. I have seen my VRAM usage get over in 10.5 GB on mine. Also in most other games the 1080Ti is functionally equivalent to the 2080 when VRAM is not an issue.

Buying cheap memory is a no go for a high end Ryzen build. Get the CL12 3200 kits, or CL14, or 15 for 3600Mhz ones. They will be most certainly SAMSUNG B die. Not only do they give you the best performance but youll also avoid lots of headaches as well.

If your replying to my post, your off topic. the user cannot change the software, but to choose what graphics card he needs regardless of the optimization level of the title because that is beyond his control.

The 2080 ti is bottlenecked by every cpu unless your at above 1440p

Judging by the amount of VRAM that some titles consume, including DCS, the 8GB on 2080 card is simply NOT sufficient. That might stem from the high VRAM prices the manufactuirer has been charging in the last 18 months but the consumer has been getting shafted by VRAM starvation. We should have 8GB on the MIdrange, 12 on the Mid-high and 16 on the high end. Thats were we should be at in this generation. In addition to that both the 2080 and 1080TI GPU's are very well on par. Because of this, if you dont have money to plonk on a 2080Ti (which most of us dont) you'd probably better off with its older sibling the 1080Ti.

wait, I know what you mean now. Multiplayer does have a problem where the game microfreezes from time to time, but I believe that has to be with sync issues rather than your hardware having difficulty handling it because everyone is getting that. Sorry I didnt make that association at first. Dont change your hardware to fix this issue because it wont solve that problem as its not on your side. The 8700 Is plenty sufficient for the game as it is now.

I dont have stutters and I have an AMD CPU, whats wrong with that build?

yeah dont upgrade for now, its a bad time considering prices of graphics cards. I still expect the 7700K to perform well for some time, wait for Vulkan results and meanwhile enjoy what you got for now.

the answer is yes because Vulkan is more efficient using hardware although the margin of gain is unknown at this time

depends on circumstances. A year ago it was clearly Ryzen, as for same money as an 4 core I7 you could have an 8 core. When the 8700K launched it leveled things up. Some saw the single threaded advantage the way to go, others like me saw that as a limitation of old DX11 games that didnt matter for the future anyway if they ran fine on both manufacturers now. With the introduction of the 9900K the choice lies in budget. People with deep pockets should go with 9900K, on the other hand people who are on a budget and still want to go high end should go Ryzen 2700 (the 9900K gets 12-20% more performance but costs 80% more). next year the balance will shift back to AMD as they are gunning for top spot with the 3000 Series Ryzen but will be priced at around 300-350$ maybe even cheaper due to new manufacturing process. I dont know what intel will do then. They dont have margin to lower their prices much due to manufacture costs of monolithic 14nm CPU's VS Ryzens 7nm multi chip CPu's.

That's the sweets pot price wise, also ryzen 1000 generally had difficulty going above that anyway, however 2000 series can go as high as 3533, some even got 3600,so it's a question of how much money is optimal for you. Right now , some people are settling at 3400 cl14 and the gains stop at 3800mhz.This should take in consideration that the cpu can be swaped on any AM4 for future processors that could go even higher both on supported speeds and desirable bandwidth if they increase maximum cores from 8 to 12 or 16 like some rumors are indicating.

9900k minimum? No, that's too much. I would say any modern 6 core would do. The 8 core is for future margin only. Granted Intel will have the advantage, but at the moment for anyone on a budget doesn't have to plonk that much premium into their systems.

If the GPU only goes as far as 70% then you have a bottleneck somewhere else in the system. Most likely the cpu and /or RAM amount (if it's less than 32gb that could be a factor for your stuttering ). Changing threads in your case cannot be used to determine the games limitations if the primary limitation is your system.

F-16 ground to ground kill on another f-16??? waaaaaaaaaaat?