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I keep 2.5.0.15365 on my hard disk, as it was the last version with forward rendering available. But now it crashes on startup. Was wondering if anyone who is still running this version is experiencing the same issue. Thanks for any replies. === Log opened UTC 2019-01-27 10:43:59 2019-01-27 10:43:59.279 INFO VFS: Using 'Saved Games': "D:\Users\<USER_NAME>\Saved Games" 2019-01-27 10:43:59.393 INFO DCS: DCS/2.5.0.15365 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.17763) 2019-01-27 10:43:59.393 INFO DCS: DCS revision: 135364 2019-01-27 10:43:59.393 INFO DCS: Renderer revision: 15903 2019-01-27 10:43:59.393 INFO DCS: Terrain revision: 16184 2019-01-27 10:43:59.393 INFO DCS: CPU cores: 6, threads: 12, System RAM: 16319 MB 2019-01-27 10:43:59.402 INFO EDCORE: (dDispatcher)enterToState_:0 2019-01-27 10:43:59.406 INFO Dispatcher: 2019/1/27 10:43 V1704040900 2019-01-27 10:43:59.427 INFO INPUT: Device [Keyboard] created deviceId = 1 2019-01-27 10:43:59.447 INFO INPUT: Device [X52 Professional H.O.T.A.S. {B2136E80-FE31-11e7-8005-444553540000}] created deviceId = 2 2019-01-27 10:43:59.448 INFO INPUT: Joystick created[X52 Professional H.O.T.A.S. {B2136E80-FE31-11e7-8005-444553540000}], ForceFeedBack: no 2019-01-27 10:43:59.462 INFO INPUT: Device [Mouse] created deviceId = 3 2019-01-27 10:43:59.548 INFO SOUND: loaded 1261 sdefs from "sounds\sdef" 2019-01-27 10:43:59.566 INFO SOUND: Using driver: xaudio29 2019-01-27 10:43:59.593 INFO SOUND: XAudio2: channel layout: FrontLeft FrontRight FrontCenter LowFrequency BackLeft BackRight SideLeft SideRight 2019-01-27 10:43:59.610 INFO SOUND: Found 5 available audio device(s): 2019-01-27 10:43:59.610 INFO SOUND: 0: ID: "\\?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{4716516e-a960-4b4e-91f3-1678bd572f28}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}", Name: "U3477 (NVIDIA High Definition Audio)" 2019-01-27 10:43:59.610 INFO SOUND: 1: ID: "\\?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{f5ad6543-f48a-4f35-9b4c-a80599f48041}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}", Name: "Headset Earphone (Corsair Gaming H2100 Headset)" 2019-01-27 10:43:59.610 INFO SOUND: 2: ID: "\\?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{42d6adb4-46ad-4da3-8417-423b0d89e8d4}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}", Name: "Headphones (Rift Audio)" 2019-01-27 10:43:59.610 INFO SOUND: 3: ID: "\\?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{fae8e0d0-311e-43a2-a4b5-70caf657be69}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}", Name: "Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device)" 2019-01-27 10:43:59.610 INFO SOUND: 4: ID: "\\?\SWD#MMDEVAPI#{0.0.0.00000000}.{14e8b4e4-33b9-4590-b72f-7f3d4ab2cd45}#{e6327cad-dcec-4949-ae8a-991e976a79d2}", Name: "Speakers (High Definition Audio Device)" 2019-01-27 10:43:59.611 INFO SOUND: Using SSE FTZ/DAZ mode. 2019-01-27 10:44:01.484 INFO NET: Login success. 2019-01-27 10:44:02.120 WARNING LOG: 1 duplicate message(s) skipped. 2019-01-27 10:44:02.120 INFO DCS: Successfully got authorization data. 2019-01-27 10:44:03.140 INFO SECURITYCONTROL: Loaded mods/tech/wwii units/dcs_module.dll 2019-01-27 10:44:04.264 INFO Scripting: OBSOLETE mount_vfs_sound_path() used in ./CoreMods/aircraft/AJS37/entry.lua 2019-01-27 10:44:06.953 INFO Scripting: PLUGINS START------------------------------------------------- 2019-01-27 10:44:06.953 INFO EDCORE: try to write dump information 2019-01-27 10:44:06.955 INFO EDCORE: # 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Please could you consider keeping the same keystroke for the same phrase across different submenus, for those of us who are using voice recognition software. e.g. if "Check out" is assigned to F3 in one menu, then please could it also be assigned to F3 in all other menus? Or is there any way this could be configured by the user in a config file?

Not just you. https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=226369

Thanks for replying, and congratulations on your first post. I feel honoured. :thumbup:. Another descriptor that comes up often in the NATOPS is e.g. After AFC 327. Any ideas what that's about? It would be nice to know which "versions" ED have settled on implementing. Although, it's possible to guess through a process of elimination:

Entirely agree. Personally I would be quite happy to pay for this type of upgrade. They could just call it the A-10C v2.5. (like they did with BS2). I don't see why people expect it to be upgraded for free indefinitely. It's tricky though, as this has resulted from their engine upgrade. This means you are paying for something you DO want by buying something that you (possibly) DON'T. I would argue that that distorts the market, and ends up with a range of aircraft being produced that few are actually interested in.

Don't do what?

Just skimmed this thread so sorry if I'm repeating what's already been said. In a similar situation, I feel something's off. I was trying to do touch and goes on the runway. I touch down, set flap to half, full military power, if I don't hold the stick far forward the f18 will pitch up into the vertical. It feels very wrong. Maybe I'm doing something wrong?

"TBH and it's a personal preference however for me PD @ 1.2 or even 1.1 and MSAA @4 looks and flows better in VR. I also run the settings mostly on high except shadows low/flat and attempt to keep either CPU and or GPU from hitting 100%. " Yeah same here, except I try to go for 90 fps with not much going on, and find I need to put almost everything on low. Kegetys's mod gets me another bump up. Sayin' nothing about missions with lots of objects doing their thing... that's an issue for another day. (e.g. Ka-50 "Battle" mission - not really playable).

Nope.

Exactly my thoughts - at first. However, having used the Touch controllers for Dash whilst running games, I found that in practice, it's not as terrible as it sounds (place Touch controller on thigh, muscle memory, etc). I'd say wait and see. If done well it could be very useful.

Reading through the NATOPS I find many references to different mission computer OFPs, which I assume is something like a version number. If so which MC OFP does a LOT20 F/A-18C have, and is this being simulated in the DCS version? If anyone can explain in simple terms what on OFP is, that would be great too. Thx (The only F18 thread I could find with OFP in the title was over 400 pages long. Just... no).

I was testing* the other day and noticed that turning (cockpit) shadows on made little difference in the A-10C, but in the F-18 caused a considerable fps drop. Have you tried turning shadows off? I'm guessing all those extra details in the F-18 cockpit -> a lot of work for shadows / lighting. Generally I do get lower fps in the F-18, but as stated, it's more complex graphically, and remains in early access. And don't get too excited just yet, but there was some good VR news today. *it was a very quick test, so sorry if I've got this wrong. And it was in Caucasus as I don't own PG.

"Optimized VR performance". I'm starting to get excited. Let's have some more details please ED! Thank you ED. Great to get some official good news on this, following the severe performance drops incurred, especially in VR, when the switch was made to deferred rendering. The Touch stuff sounds intriguing, it'll be very interesting to see what sort of implementation can be achieved. Although personally, I'll be hanging on to my HOTAS, it's great to see this sort of VR innovation. I think Oculus prefer to call it the "grip button". For some reason middle-finger button sounds slightly rude to me ;)

Everything you ever wanted to know but were afraid to ask... Is very well explained here

After deciding that personally I prefer to have SPUD turned on (for the reasons I mentioned above), I had a look around on the internet and tried the following: Stop Oculus service (net stop ovrservice) Delete the files in %localappdata%\Oculus\Spud (Always back up just in case). Start Oculus service (net start ovrservice) The files are downloaded again, and one was slightly different. It could very well be a placebo and wishful thinking, but I'd swear that the Mura is not as bad as it was. A reboot might be necessary before the change kicks in.

Has something been changed in the last (ED beta) update? Flying the same mission I based my comments (above) on, I find the terrain textures are now black. Much, much improved from last week. I've been making quite a few changes on my PC and testing recently, so it could well be something I've done. Possibly shaders not recompiling?

Does it? I use 0.600f and don't notice them (in the HMD). I do see them on the monitor. I'll check again later. The performance question is interesting, I'll also check on that. -- EDIT - after checking: At 0.6f I am sure I can see no rings in the HMD. I tried 0.2, 0.6, and 0.98 - I measured no difference in fps (very basic testing - A10C sitting on runway in one of the default free flight missions). Begs the questions, what does the setting actually do, and is it necessary to keep it as low as possible? I think it's been asked before, but I can't face trawling through 60 pages of posts - is there any way to apply only the MSAA part of this mod?

And my latest testing 2.5.0.15365.345 v 2.5.3.24436. All settings the same, same mission, 4xMSAA, PD 1.3., all other settings mostly low. DEFERRED SHADING OFF in 2.5.0. You want > 45 fps - here's a clue (I wish there was some way I could have forward rendering back.)

Anti-aliasing that doesn't cripple performance. Improved night lighting in VR. Improved labels: visibility dependent on size / aspect of object as well as distance, only visible through cockpit canopy. Kneeboard tabs that can be saved permanently.

It never ceases to amaze me how many people suggest this. Maybe our eyes work differently? IMHO, DCS in VR without MSAA is just not acceptable: the shimmering and jaggies are dreadful and completely ruin the experience. I've just gone from a 1070 to a 1080Ti, and still it is very difficult to get 90 fps in VR with 4xMSAA (and that's with very little going on).

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3692087&postcount=37 I apologise to ED and take back my first comment. More a case of it's an Oculus Rift limitation that will require considerable work from ED to minimise. All still speculation from me, btw.

Finally got around to testing this. Note that I am on Rift. I think it is a great improvement. I usually run on a gamma of 1.6 - previous to your mod I had to bring it down to 1.3 to get the sky to "go black". What this meant was that lights on the ground were a lot darker. With your mod I get a black sky at 2.2, which means lights on the ground are much brighter, which is a great improvement. THANK YOU for all your efforts. I also tried turning off SPUD again. It definitely removed the Mura, but also seems to give a pinkish hue to some colours. It's noticeable on the "beams" on the hangar roof in the main menu screen, and also on ground lights at night. It's hard to say for sure, but I also feel that blacks are no longer as black (again seen on beams on hangar roof). The thing about Mura is that it only appears to be noticeable when the entire screen is black, so when looking forward it's not too bad, only becomes awful when looking up or to the sides. Even with all that, there remain problems. Ground textures can still be seen when they should be black; and there don't seem to be enough shades available with the result that they look blocky / banded, which looks terrible. Same thing when looking at the wings. Still, getting there... I suspect that E D would have to make substantial changes specifically for VR to improve the night environment, which is quite a big ask.

Great photo to illustrate the point, although for some reason I'm no longer so fixated on the HUD.

Thank you so much for clearing that up, this has been bugging me for years.