Tonker

Hahaha, I'll get back to you in a few years! In a similar boat though, so to speak, using the T16000 throttle and pedals, but recently moved to the Winwing Ursa Major for the stick. Sprung stick isn't ideal, but sprung pedals are a right PITA. I got in a useful hour this morning, and am definitely getting my feel back but - coordindation, particularly collective and anti-torque, is always going to be tricky when there's no feel and plenty of slop in the pedals. Muscle memory and a quick prayer to the gods of sticktion are the best advice I can offer! - I've been scaling back the curves, down to 10ish for the pedals, 15ish for the cyclic. I couldn't have done this straight away, but it is helping dial in precision between my movement and the Loach's movement - the biggest single improvement I had was in trimming for hover (load depending, but about 3 seconds of nose-up trim, 2 seconds of left roll). This gave me a fighting chance of getting up into a stable hover from the ground. From there it all got easier! In related news, this literally just popped up in my feed: Partly a useful concise resource, but mostly huge congrats to @tobi and @Eight Ball: of any airframe in any sim, this guy chose DCS and your OH-6A as the best demo of helicopter dynamics. I can see why, it just feels right. Even my cussups look like realworld cussups! Per ardua...

Finally got DCS back up and running, straight into the OH6-A. Woohoo! It's awesome, feels great, I'm all over the sky, perfect Need to get those curves dialed back in!

Two weeks, be sure™

My only paid module is the Gazelle, which is probably the most comparable anyway. I have more (DCS) hours in the Whistling Chicken Leg than the Killer Egg, and more real-word affinity with it... ...but... ...I totally agree! Comparing quality, updates, tutorials, ancilliaries etc there is no contest. The Loach feels bang up to date and spot on, the Gaz just feels dated, and spot off. Literally the only thing in the latter's favour is multiplayer* and a campaign**. Neither of these will be a factor for long, I reckon What a time to be a light chopper fan! *See the widespread adoption of the A4 and the UH60 in many popular servers. ** Which I found bleddy awful, enjoying user campaigns far more - shoutout to @dggoofy!

*excitement intensifies*

Woop! Speaking of ops (and dealing with my frustration of the last DCS patch needing a fresh install, which took up all my available 'flying' time till my next leave)... ...an expanded mission set/campaign for the Loach would be make the mod such a complete package There are so many cool cargos, stunningly immersive assets, and already a couple of good tutorials and the Playground mission already...so I want more! Partly this is greed, I know, but also so much work has been done I do think it might be worth seeing if a mission designer would be interested in making a set of scenarios to show it all off. I'm sure I'm not the only one who likes the idea of designing my own missions but in reality spend limited free time learing aircraft instead of learning the mission editor, and so miss out on a lot the mod has to offer. My loss, but a pity not to make the most of the Killer Egg. I'll hope they'll forgive the namedrops, compliment intended, but the likes of @Chef98's Move Order campaign and @Don Rudi's Bronco and Cedar Spear missions (and FAC/spotter scripts) put them at the top of the list of those I'd be excited to see getting involved with the OH-6A. I won't tag those like Reflected, who I know from the Lancaster mod are keen to help but unable to due to their work. Just a thought whilst I look forward to trying out v1.51

Taking a quick moment to appreciate a) the enormous amount of work that Tobi and Eight Ball have put in, b) the quality of that work and c) those screenshots, bloody incredible!

Thanks for the update Jim Keep enjoying it, keep motivated, and do shout out if there's anything us cheerleaders can do to help things along. More power to your elbow!

Interesting...'tho reading that, it seems far from clear that Gibbo was downed by a friendly. If not in this case, there were plenty of others though - hardly surprising that the nightfighting environment carried a high risk of blue/blue or red/red engagements. Horrible. On subject PFF Mossies - does the DCS rendition have an option for marker flares? That would make for a good multiplayer mission (and neatly dodge the lack of H2S in our Lancs...for starters at least!).

For multiplayer is this? For singleplayer, as a Lanc pilot in the black of night, an AI Mossie might as well be a AI Ju88. It's still going to make a nasty mess of the starboard outer motor. Nor would an AI rear gunner care that the AI FW-190 approaching from 8 o'clock low wasn't quite the right variant - they could still (hopefully) give the call to corkscrew over the intercom, which is all I need to know. Otherwise between keeping tabs on the instruments the nav's instructions the flight engineer's instructions, my tiny little box of assigned, allegedly unconflicted, airspace the gunners calling out nearby traffic the weather the flak the risk of enemy fighters the (and this must've been shattering for the poor bastards) sight of other Lanc's apparently spontaneously exploding ...oh yeah, and trying to hold the old girl on the bomb aimer's instructions so the whole show isn't a total waste of my crew's evening etc etc etc I don't think I'm gonna be shy of challenge A mission designer could have me flying round in circles for hours and tell me I'd got to Berlin for all I'd know! External accuracy of the mission is secondary (to my mind) to immersion in the experience of those stupidly brave young men. A lot of this is down to the aircraft mod makers, but an awful lot is down to the mission designer - @Reflected is, to my mind, the absolute master of this balance, getting things to feel just right no matter how much magic he's had to weave behind the scenes. Training flights were as difficult, and almost as dangerous, as going out on ops after all... That's all very welcome news @Scoobyon - I'm completely unsurprised that you and the team are all over it Keep up the good work To keep us in the zone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6U0e5DUdNQ

Thanks for the steer, I'd missed just how well documented this is etc. Boom! @Scoobyon and co: I'm sure it feels very early to be thinking about this, 'tho I'd argue it's as important to how professional a mod feels as the flight model etc, but have you any plan yet for documentation and/or tutorial missions and/or 'real' missions (*cough* campaign of a full tour, plus training and evaluation flights *cough*) to go with the Lanc when she's ready? Is it, perhaps, the sort of thing we sycophants could help with? A @chuck owl style guide/manual and an A4 Skyhawk-style kneeboard would help enormously with people not just downloading the mod, but wanting to use it when they fire up DCS. One hell of a lot of work though, so perhaps worth outsourcing? My other small-hours-of-the-morning-watching-Lanc-vids thought is whether you have been able to reach out to current Lanc projects (ideally pilots and flight engineers) for information on the feel of the real thing, to inform flight model/systems models? Again, is this perhaps something those of us in the UK or Canada could help with? Keep up the good work PS. Us punters, just be grateful I didn't volunteer us all to record voice lines for a Jester-style full crew!

Amazing audio - the first time I've heard so much of the BBC reporter's commentary, or so much of the crew intercom in one vid. Enjoy!

Roger That should get a convo rolling...! If not, have some pretties:

Item 8305: Hammer, large. Airframe modification, for purposes of. Cracking little catchup with the latest pics. Top stuff Scooby and co - I hope you're still remembering that this is all for fun, and to find ways to keep enjoying it. Dead excited for this, but if I can speak for all us supporters, we're not going anywhere and there's no reason to rush Keep up the good work!

I'd love to *like*...but no image for me I'm afraid.

Many thanks @Rudel_chw, for your continued support and excellent training missions. They've helped me get to grips with many DCS aircraft

Agreed, as with all the included training missions. Thank you! In the first 30 seconds of your version I learned two new things about the Gazelle, despite having flown it for a little while now. Even after just 30 seconds I'm feeling greedy for a whole series of your excellent tutorials...! Sadly, I could not progress past the NVG section - I can't seem to fire the trigger. My keyboard binds are default, and I also tried binding to HOTAS buttons in case that worked. The NVGs themselves work fine, but the last audio I hear is "Turn them ON with [RShift + H], try it now". Have yet to find a way to set off the trigger to progress further. Any ideas, Gazellers? My only mods are the more polished community aircraft (A4, OV-10, SK-60, UH60) and the range scripts mod. Version used was for the Marianas map, I don't own the others.

If only they'd posted the question in the relevant thre- ...oh, no, wait...

Uh oh! FWIW all image links, including GIF now kaput. Android phone. They were working when first posted (Windows PC, Chrome). Per ardua...

Gosh, has anything happened recently which might shorten fuses round here...?! I agree, good call @Scoobyon and co - much better to have a decent flyable Lanc in the skies where she belongs than in perpetual 'two weeks, be sure' due to tertiary systems. I'm sure an awful lot of people will spend far more time in the start up proceedures (no pressure on your sound guy!) and in the circuit than they ever will over the target at 03.30, angels 25, on an overcast flak-lit night wishing they had access to more experimental blind bombing equipment to take up their mental capacity...! Gotta give us monkies time to learn to fly the old girl first

I had noticed Thanks to you and @Rudel_chw for the continued effot to keep the mod up to date and useful to the community

Ricockulously excited by each update, thanks for sharing. I finally caught up with Masters of the Air (what a 'kin waste of all that time, money and effort), and afterwards stumbled across this, rather more intetesting, series. Now looking forward very much to the Lanc, and the chance to understand a little bit better what those stupidly brave young men went through. All power to your elbows, godspeed!

"Two weeks, be sure"TM

I was looking at their stuff the other day, getting excited for the Mossie throttle too, and also thought this...but had a closer look at what the kits provide, the amount of support available, the Youtube vids etc etc etc and now think I was wrong. For sure it's a bit of effort, and needs to be viewed as a sort of mini-game within the hobby, but that's no bad thing at all. It would also be immensely satisfying. Is it plug and play? No. Is that an issue? Honestly I no longer think so - I think anyone could put the kits together!

Understood, thanks