Reworked Cockpit Views with proper Neck

Thanks, good move on setting it up with JSGME,, thanks for the tip!

Here's a fix for the UH-1H co-pilot view (not gunners):

ViewSettings["UH-1H"] = {
Cockpit = {
[1] = default_fighter_player({
	CockpitLocalPoint	  = {0,0,0},
	limits_6DOF 		  = {	x 	 = {-0.2,0.4},
								y	 = {-0.2,0.18},
								z	 = {-0.2,0.8},
								roll = 90}}),

[2] = default_fighter_player({-- player slot 2
	CockpitLocalPoint	 = {2.0,0.6,-1.35},
	limits_6DOF 		 = {	x 	 = {-2,2},
								y	 = {-2,2},
								z	 = {-2,2},
								roll = 90}}),

[3] = {-- player slot 3
	CockpitLocalPoint      = {-1.0,0.6,-1.35},
	CameraViewAngleLimits  = GlobalCameraViewAngleLimits,
	CameraAngleRestriction = {false,130.00,0.90},
	CameraAngleLimits      = {120,-90,15},
	EyePoint               = GlobalEyePoint,
	limits_6DOF            = {	x	 = {-0.200000,0.500000},
								y	 = {-0.200000,0.350000},
								z	 = {0.300000,0.800000},
								roll = 90.000000},
},

[4] = {-- player slot 4
	CockpitLocalPoint      = {0.000000,0.000000,0.000000},
	CameraViewAngleLimits  = GlobalCameraViewAngleLimits,
	CameraAngleRestriction = {false,130.00,0.90},
	CameraAngleLimits      = {120,-90,15},
	EyePoint               = GlobalEyePoint,
	limits_6DOF            = {	x	 = {-0.200000,0.500000},
								y	 = {-0.200000,0.350000},
								z	 = {-0.800000,-0.300000},
								roll = 90.000000},
},

Have a nice snapview settings for the FW190?

NO ZOOM EFFECT WHEN ENTERING COKPIT - FIX!!!

I've found a fix/workaround allowing to get rid of the zoom effect when spawning in the cockpit. There is one side effect which is that zooming out more than the default view is no longer possible. Zoom-in is not affected, it gets actually more precise as now the whole slider travel length is dedicated for zooming-in.

The solution can be done by everyone:

1. Make sure that the default FOV set in user SnapViews is the same for all aircrafts (index [13], viewAngle value). The value can be set according to personal preferences.

2. Set the same value as the maximum allowed FOV - gCameraViewAngleLimits value in Server.lua.

For convenience I've attached an updated version of the files:

- HD: for 16:9, HD monitors - 90° FOV

- WS: for 21:9, widescreen monitors - 107° FOV. Tested with 3440x1440 resolution.

To change the FOV value to any other preferred one just run replace all "viewAngle = 90.000000" or "viewAngle = 107.000000".

- MPZoom - FOV is calibrated in a way that middle position equals default FOV. It's done to match the middle detent on the TM Warthog throttle slider. This version does not fix the zoom out effect when entering the cockpit.

- NoZoom - max FOV is same as default FOV, removes the zoom-out effect.

It's recommended that the configuration is used by simmers knowing how to modify the view configurations.

Installation:

1. Backup your original files!

2. Remove prefixes

3. copy "SnapViews.lua" and "Server.lua" to DCS folder, Config\View in user SavedGames:

- 2.x alpha - C:\Users\@user_name\Saved Games\DCS.openalpha\Config\View

- 1.5.x beta - C:\Users\@user_name\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\Config\View

Aircrafts included are listed below. Since I don't have/fly all of them those that are tested in 1.5 beta and 2.0 are marked with bold:

A-10A

A-10C

F-15C

Hawk

Ka-50

MiG-29A

MiG-29G

MiG-29S

P-51D

TF-51D

Su-25

Su-25T

Su-25TM

Su-27

Su-33

Mi-8MT

UH-1H

C-101EB

M-2000C

MiG-21Bis

MiG-15bis

F-86F Sabre

HD - SnapViews.lua

HD-MPZoom - Server.lua

HD-NoZoom - Server.lua

WS - SnapViews.lua

WS-MPZoom - Server.lua

WS-NoZoom - Server.lua

Updated with Spitfire and latest changes (gunners) for Mi-8.

Server.lua

SnapViews.lua

Updated with Spitfire and latest changes (gunners) for Mi-8.

Thanks. TBH I thought proper neck had been incorporated into DCS.

I don't know what is the history. Long story short, the files are just a configuration of what DCS is doing, with a difference that for every single module in DCS there is a different setup of shoulder size, eye point (neck length), max/min zoom as also few other things.

The benefit of using Server.lua stored in user files is that you're getting the same configuration of mentioned things for every single module. Additionally with proper synchronization of FOV and max zoom values between Server.lua and SnapViews.lua it's possible to get rid of annoying zoom-out effect when entering the cockpit. As for SnapViews.lua I'm editing it to make sure that every single module has the same default field of view (zoom). This file is really optional, actually it may be better to edit your own rather than using attached one - the instruction is in one of the posts somewhere above.

I don't know what is the history. Long story short, the files are just a configuration of what DCS is doing, with a difference that for every single module in DCS there is a different setup of shoulder size, eye point (neck length), max/min zoom as also few other things.

The benefit of using Server.lua stored in user files is that you're getting the same configuration of mentioned things for every single module. Additionally with proper synchronization of FOV and max zoom values between Server.lua and SnapViews.lua it's possible to get rid of annoying zoom-out effect when entering the cockpit. As for SnapViews.lua I'm editing it to make sure that every single module has the same default field of view (zoom). This file is really optional, actually it may be better to edit your own rather than using attached one - the instruction is in one of the posts somewhere above.

Yes I understand the theory. I just compared the standard files with the ProperNeck files in my Saved Games and no, it isn't incorporated into DCS. Because the ProperNeck files have always been there I was fooled into thinking it was now in DCS. Stupid Boy as they say.

I don't want to use a universal FOV. With my screen layout I create individual FOVs (using RALT + 0) for each aircraft which are all very similar. They only vary because in one cockpit an instrument may be partially cut off between upper and lower screens and then I will have a similar problem in another so I set them individually. But they are all within a few degrees of eachother.

Thanks. TBH I thought proper neck had been incorporated into DCS.

I can confirm it has been "implemented" for Ka-50. But I don't see it "working" in the A-10C.

I have been trying to play around with the FOV but whenI try to do a find and replace on viewAngle so as to change the vale as per the post by firmek I am not finding any entries for viewAngle. Have things changed now that we are on version 1.5.6 ?

Also am I missing something or can you not set your own custom Snap views?

(Sorry for what might seem a basic question but I am new to DCS)

1. Check if there is a "SnapViews.lua" file in "C:\Users\@your_user_name\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\Config\View" folder.

2. If not, save any view using snap views saving - http://en.wiki.eagle.ru/wiki/Snap_views.

Simplest case - jump into any plane. Pause TrackIR. Hit Num5, next RAlt+Num0, exit game.

Now the file should be created.

3. Edit the file

a.) find the section for plane you want to set the FOV for - "SnapViews["module_name"]

b.) Modify viewAngle value at index 13 to change the default FOV

[13] = {--default view
       viewAngle = 107.000000,--FOV 
       hAngle     = 0.096307,
       vAngle     = -14.985352,
       x_trans     = 0.267599,
       y_trans     = -0.027049,
       z_trans     = -0.001030,
       rollAngle = -0.005687,
   },

c.1.) Optional - change other viewAngle settings. Its a personal preference but I've set the same FOV for all of my modules.

Updated version included. Added Viggen, Bf 109, Fw 190 and L-39 (both variants).

SnapViews.lua - obviously optional. Version with all views configured as default in DCS but with modified, same FOV = 107 set for all views, including default as also quick views (107 works nice for wide-screen monitors). Easy to change the FOV - just run replace "viewAngle = 107.000000," selecting your own value.

Complete list of suported modules:

A-10A

A-10C

F-15C

Hawk

Ka-50

MiG-29A

MiG-29G

MiG-29S

P-51D

TF-51D

Su-25

Su-25T

Su-27

Su-33

Mi-8MT

UH-1H

C-101EB

M-2000C

MiG-21Bis

MiG-15bis

F-86F Sabre

SpitfireLFMkIX

Bf-109K-4

FW-190D9

AJS37

L-39C

L-39ZA

Server.lua

SnapViews.lua

Will this work with Oculus rift ?

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Don't have a VR set so I haven't had a way to test it. Give it a try to see if it works. Just backup the original files.

Updated version included. Added Viggen, Bf 109, Fw 190 and L-39 (both variants).

SnapViews.lua - obviously optional. Version with all views configured as default in DCS but with modified, same FOV = 107 set for all views, including default as also quick views (107 works nice for wide-screen monitors). Easy to change the FOV - just run replace "viewAngle = 107.000000," selecting your own value.

 

Complete list of suported modules:

A-10A

A-10C

F-15C

Hawk

Ka-50

MiG-29A

MiG-29G

MiG-29S

P-51D

TF-51D

Su-25

Su-25T

Su-27

Su-33

Mi-8MT

UH-1H

C-101EB

M-2000C

MiG-21Bis

MiG-15bis

F-86F Sabre

SpitfireLFMkIX

Bf-109K-4

FW-190D9

AJS37

L-39C

L-39ZA

Any hopes of getting this working with the SA342 Gazelle?

hello.

srry 4 my english.

i want to sit deeper in pit.

i use edtracker and i cant good see the hud in ajs37 viggen.

witch code i must change?

can u help me?

thx

Can we get the f-5 as well?

Guys sorry but I don't have F-5 and Gazelle. I could add them if someone owning the modules would provide me with the needed information. I'm not at home so I can't check where exactly to look for it.

Next, someone would have to help to test it and there will be an maintenance issue as I'll not be able to periodically check if anything didn't change in the original files.

Can we get the f-5 as well?

^ 2nd this

Can it be confirmed this mod works with the latest DCS updates? Just curious because I just reinstalled DCS after a new build and the mod sets the default view very close to the instrument panel unlike before.

Is there some one who got the F-5E to read settings from server.lua? I don't get that to work.

+1

Couldn't resist the recent sale and finally got F-5 - yet another great module which most probably I won't be able to devote the time it deserves. Anyway, so far enjoyed it a lot - it's super simple. On negative side - something seems to be strange with the sounds, like the engine sound would be really muted with a lot of white-noise on top of their audio cue.

Anyway, I've added F-5 to server.lua.

Server.lua

SnapViews.lua

So in VR I am using firmek's last update and it's working great (thanks, firmek!) but I want to move my head back just a tad to include my FOV in the cockpit.

Which lines do I need to change? I changed FOV from 107 to 117 and nothing changed. I just need to be able to see a bit more for visual reference in formation.

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If you would like to change the default head position in the cockpit (not the FOV), there are two ways how it can be done:

1. Use the user snap views by chaning the head position in cokpit, as described here: http://en.wiki.eagle.ru/wiki/Snap_views

2. Edit the SnapViews manually, change the default setting (index 13):

   [13] = {--default view
       viewAngle = 107.000000,--FOV
       hAngle     = 0.000000,
       vAngle     = 0.000000,
       x_trans     = 0.000000,
       y_trans     = 0.000000,
       z_trans     = 0.000000,
       rollAngle = 0.000000,
   },

I think it's one of the x_trans or y_trans - would have to do a small triall and error to see which one exactly and how much to change it.

The other point are the cockpit head movement limits which are controled by 6 DOF setting in the server.lua. Correct me if I'm wrong as I don't have a VR but as far as I understood from the forum those are not applicable for VR.