RTFM

Aaaaap! Put that flight stick down and finish reading the manual! You'll thank yourself later! If I hear one person in multi-player ask what key resets trim, I'm going to track you down and beat you with my HOTAS cable.

I just pre purchased and I'm reading the manual now. I'm a 39 year old business intelligence consultant with two teenage boys. I'm usually described as 'stoic'. As I realized how complete the A-10C is in this simulation, I jumped up and belted out an excited cackle/giggle/scream that echoed out of my study and through my home. My family came running, probably thinking it was the apocalypse. I haven't been this excited since I got my first Erector Set back in the 70s. Sweet funky Moses!

I'm going to finish the manual before I even fire it up. The anticipation is intoxicating. Like that first 'strap' you'd ever tried to undo. It's boggling and clumsy, and you know something better is to come, but you have to stop and revel in the moment... as it is oh so sweet!

RTFM boys.. a little technical foreplay will make the flightgasm much more spectacular.

Why? .. further explanation ...

Update

One Week Later.. my sweet reward for RTFM!

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Aaaaap!! Hold on.. Why not just jump in the cockpit after months/yrs of development anticipation? See what happens with your basic understanding of the beast & producer notes etc.. I think your being a wee harsh.. It's all great for people like yourselves to want to read the entire manual before even jumping in cockpit but that is your desire and not everyone elses. I do however understand people get frustrated when there are questions galore in MP & forums that are all explained in the manual.

I tried, I really did. I got to page 350-something but the icon was looking at me. I know what to mean though, the falcon forums.......”how do I?” .....”Nosewheel steering”.....etc.

But, I had a quick bash with the mission editor. Created a nice relaxing jaunt at sunset out of Batumi. It was a seminal moment. The runway lights bleeding into each other, the engines spooling up, the amazing ground handling shaking me as i prepared to rotate, then as I lifted off, the dying sun filled the canopy, blazing, lighting off the instruments. I turned, spooling up my mavericks, the sun, now behind me, bathed the dash.

My jaw actually dropped.

I yelped.

Not since Goldeneye on the N64 or Far Cry on the PC has my jaw actually involuntarily lost control. And this is only a damn beta. So, yeah, RTFM

Then fly damnit! I recommend a sunset trip. Just take tissues.

(oh, and the Hog HOTAS launched! http://www.simhq.com/)

Gibber

Never in your life can you come this close to flying an A-10c without knowing what the hell you're doing. Don't let that opportunity pass you up!

I agree - DON'T read the manual before the 1st circuit! There's nothing like taking a lap of the track in blissful ignorance before you start studying, and it's not like the Hog's a hard plane to do a circuit in. It was awesome - I love the jiggly ride on the runways, and it's got a great feel. I even managed to arm the cannon and strafe the tower on downwind! Nice impact flashes..

A10C is my first proper study sim but my intention is to learn the whole manual then start on the Black Shark . After that I may have a try at FSX for some WWII era warbirds, I like switchology now it adds real challenge.

Never in your life can you come this close to flying an A-10c without knowing what the hell you're doing. Don't let that opportunity pass you up!

This.

+1rep

I tried, I really did. I got to page 350-something but the icon was looking at me. I know what to mean though, the falcon forums.......”how do I?” .....”Nosewheel steering”.....etc.

 

But, I had a quick bash with the mission editor. Created a nice relaxing jaunt at sunset out of Batumi. It was a seminal moment. The runway lights bleeding into each other, the engines spooling up, the amazing ground handling shaking me as i prepared to rotate, then as I lifted off, the dying sun filled the canopy, blazing, lighting off the instruments. I turned, spooling up my mavericks, the sun, now behind me, bathed the dash.

 

My jaw actually dropped.

 

I yelped.

 

Not since Goldeneye on the N64 or Far Cry on the PC has my jaw actually involuntarily lost control. And this is only a damn beta. So, yeah, RTFM

 

Then fly damnit! I recommend a sunset trip. Just take tissues.

 

(oh, and the Hog HOTAS launched! http://www.simhq.com/)

 

Gibber

Almost like being there:thumbup: I'll have to try it for sure.

+1rep

Hmm.. interesting results. Posted disagreements, then someone rep-ing people for disagreeing. I wonder if it's disinterest in the aircraft (other than the weapons systems), that the size of the manual is intimidating, or that "reading is for #*($^ nerds, dude". I wonder if after the scope of the sim is realized by some they will be forced to read the manual, or if they will seek a solution through :clicky:clicky:boggle:post. Aren't people interesting!?

I passed the NATOPS test in Naval Aviation, and I may have to reread parts of this manual. I can't imagine trying to wing it. (Hmmm.. is this where that term comes from?)

+1 hehe

It’s a question of "how do you learn". As a former teacher, that in itself is a subject of endless (subjective) debate. This time round though ED have all the bases covered. An excellent manual, (in draft), which improves on the key limitations of the KA-50 manual by including applicable procedures, etc. and the new interactive training missions, which, if there are enough and varied, will be an invaluable combination.

I’m not going to criticise anyone for leaving that tempting icon alone on their desktop till they have “done their homework”. Whatever floats your own personal boat.

I am just amazed by your self-restraint. I broke within minutes, and, yes I am equally frustrated and engrossed, and the frustration would be lessened greatly if I had read the whole manual first, but my attention span is limited when reading technical manuals. I learn by applied study. I read a chapter then practice the content, until I can do it unaided, then onto the next chapter.

I cheated with mavericks.

I skipped a lot and went straight to mavericks.

And I can’t shoot a damn thing. Those missed chapters. SOI this and SPI that. Chinese hats and boat switches! Grumble grumble grumble.

This sim can’t be cheated! Hog heaven population +1

I've read it cover to cover at least 20 times, and the A-10A flight manual cover to cover at least 10 times. Although I don't have much else to do during what free time I get at the moment, so it works out nicely.

I will have the proper manual in my daily workbag when;

• It's finished
  
• It's Printed by TFC
  
• It's turns up in a reassuringly heavy jiffy bag
  

I hate reading PDF's, alt-tab my arse :book::mad::book:

I find PDF to be a pretty awful format for reading on-screen, so a proper dive into the manual will need to wait for the paper version to be available.

Hate on screen reading too. Can't ear mark pages to flip back to. I am having a he'll of a time with all the damn military acronyms. I can not seem to make much besides the gun work. :). I have been reading the manual though. Wish the training missions were more polished.

I used IBM's laser colour printer to print out all 653 pages. I printed out 100 pages a day to avoid any suspicion. hehehehehe.

Having the manual printed in full colour, along with the updated training missions is making learning the A-10C fun and efficient.

:pilotfly:

I just familiarize myself with the cockpit and browse through some of the systems but I can't read the PDF in-depth. I'm thinking about printing it out at the college where it's free. But the last time I printed off a flight manual (A-10A) they kind of gave me a strange look. :pilotfly:I prefer flying and reading at the same time though. A hands-on approach always helps and that is one of the biggest reasons why I got into the beta. I can make all of the mistakes and suffer in the early stages so once the final product is out I'll be ready.

I made it to page 85 then promptly got board. Besides this is an early beta by the time it's at release candidate stage it could be totaly different. Don't want any learned habits just yet. I'll RTFM when it's final

It’s a question of "how do you learn".

I cheated with mavericks.

 

I skipped a lot and went straight to mavericks.

 

And I can’t shoot a damn thing. Those missed chapters. SOI this and SPI that. Chinese hats and boat switches! Grumble grumble grumble.

 

This sim can’t be cheated! Hog heaven population +1

Well my first flight I admit was the startup procedure training, then I wrote all of it down step by step then I went and did it myself before even taking to the air. The feeling I had was just amazing, and then in the air, the graphics, oh me oh my, and then the flight model.

I have never been one for ground pounders and love my fast jets, but I am hooked.

ED couldn't have picked a better release day for me as I've been off work all week.

I read the manual on Nav, but then had to do it in game. I'm a see it learn it person. Now at least I know how to switch to the next waypoint lol

My first A2G experience was at about 3am yesterday morning, running the guns and rocket pod training. I thought with all those rockets, i'm bound to hit something, turns out I got 2 trucks out of the 8 i think are there at the red smoke lol

However I did take the rest out on the second round of rockets and then the gun (love that sound btw)

I just can't get enough of this sim and am really wishing i'm not going back to work next week lol

Oh rep inbound for your comment on the chinese hats and boat switches lol

My connection is pretty slow so I had about 5 hours of reading time before game downloaded. I read a good portion of it, I only left out more detailed instructions I knew I wouldn't remember.I printed out Quick Start Guide and several pages from manual, and I'm now slowly making progress.

Just now I managed to shut down the engines due to inverted flying for a minute, then I quickly landed on a road with engines off! Perfect landing, but nosewheel steering didn't work at the end, but I still managed to stop before I made a single scratch on a Hog.

:)

There's still much to learn, though...

When reading a PDF go into View > Page Display > 2 up Continuous... then choose View > Zoom > Fit Width.. then go into reading mode (ctrl+H). On my laptop it looks just like a book.

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I like your writing style!

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I haven't been this excited since I got my first Erector Set back in the 70s.

Ah yes, I remember my first erection like it was yesterday. Errrm, nevermind. MUST READ MORE CAREFULLY.

I can honestly say reading the manual is as exciting a prospect as actually putting the sim through the paces. And we haven't even touched upon the interactive training.

Ah yes, I remember my first erection like it was yesterday.

Me too, but my mom walked in. :D

lol my dad walked in on me.:poster_offtopic:

I can honestly say reading the manual is as exciting a prospect as actually putting the sim through the paces. And we haven't even touched upon the interactive training.

The manual is interesting! I love the A-10, and this manual feeds that love until I'm sweaty spent and laying in the wetspot. I think I can read some more now...

question; in the doc folder is the A10c quickstart guide.

If DCS ,ED is going to represent x52, don't you think it would be better to have both HOTAS's in the manual? i.e. the TM Hotas?

Doh! I see it.