domini99 Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 THen again its an Interceptor. So it has to have a very short start up period. The Americans never really had that requirement. Thats also why some Soviet/russian aircraft also had very short startup times. Lol wanna get an F16 up? See you in half a hour.
mattebubben Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 yea and alot of that is because the US has never really need to rush airplanes up since they are mostly of the offensive (or atleast far from base) So there aircraft have not been made to be able to Scramble quickly to intercept incomming aircraft. Like For example the Swedish Saab Aircraft have been designed for. The mirage is similar since its a Defensive interceptor. Its supposed to be able to get airborne quickly and climb to intercept incomming enemies. And then use its limited loadout to dispatch the incomming enemies before returning to the base for a quick turnround and then be ready to go up again.
Bogey Jammer Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) Thanks for this valuable contribution. I'm sure the entire community will rest better after reading this. meh Btw, you were correct when you said the M2000 and F-16 were comparable... but incorrect when you assumed this would result in comparable startup procedures. Is it supposed to be a valuable contribution ? Jokes aside, if Zeus stated once for all that they made the best from all the data they could get, I don't see the point to pursue me again on that matter. I got the answers I wanted. And I thought we talked about the procedure to start up all the systems, not only the engine ?????????? Edited September 24, 2015 by Bogey Jammer I'll buy : МиГ-23МЛД & МЛА МиГ-27К МиГ-25 Mirage III F-4E any IJ plane 1950' Korea Dynamic campaign module
vicx Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 Only just watched Matt's introduction to M2000 video. The model and textures are amazing. Also did I just imagine that the glass HUD has properly diffracting glass.
Moos_tachu Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) There is a little bit more to powering up an airliner than starting the engines. And btw, 14 switches would be required just for engine start. (Batteries, 6 fuel pump buttons, Apu Master, Apu Start, Apu Bleed, Ignition switch and both engine master switches.) Do you know what it takes to start an engine on A320 (a far more complex machine)? Once you have electrical power up, you just need to push 2 buttons: - Fuel Pumps ON - Engine ON All the rest is handled by the automation (FADEC). Answering to this: This looks like a systems state check list. There is almost no switch operation listed and I seriously doubt it requires to press on the red engine start button only like a douche's supercar Note: APU is not required if you have ground power, but indeed it is common practice. Edited September 25, 2015 by Moos_tachu [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Mud, wind and fire.
Bogey Jammer Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 So I'm in pedantic trouble because I've made a caricature… Can it stop now plz ? I'll buy : МиГ-23МЛД & МЛА МиГ-27К МиГ-25 Mirage III F-4E any IJ plane 1950' Korea Dynamic campaign module
=Mac= Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 it got me wondering what s the minimum wage over there :D Here in Ontario, minimum wage is now $11.25. That's about two loaves of bread, two bus rides across town, 11 liters of gasoline (about 3 U.S. gallons), one hamburger or 1/100th of my apartment rent. Anyway, I saved what little I could and my parents gave me a bit of a Christmas present several years ago to put away for a rainy day. It rained and I got my gaming machine!:) The rest of the stuff I accumulated over the years. DCS is one of my two hobbies. The Hornet is best at killing things on the ground. Now, if we could just get a GAU-8 in the nose next to the AN/APG-65, a titanium tub around the pilot, and a couple of J-58 engines in the tail...
QuiGon Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 I'm no expert in this field, so I still wonder about battery usage in the M2000. In the video he turns on the battery while the engine is already spooling up. In all the other aircraft I fly in DCS ranging from WW2 to today you switch on the battery first and then comes the engine. So I'm curious how the battery works in the M2000? Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
OnlyforDCS Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 I'm no expert in this field, so I still wonder about battery usage in the M2000. In the video he turns on the battery while the engine is already spooling up. In all the other aircraft I fly in DCS ranging from WW2 to today you switch on the battery first and then comes the engine. So I'm curious how the battery works in the M2000? This is only a guess, but Im guessing that the battery powers up the electrical systems however it is not required for an engine start. The engine however needs to be on before turning on the battery, in case the battery is very low on power and probably through automated converters it gets charged from the engine. Current specs: Windows 10 Home 64bit, i5-9600K @ 3.7 Ghz, 32GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB Samsung EVO 860 M.2 SSD, GAINWARD RTX2060 6GB, Oculus Rift S, MS FFB2 Sidewinder + Warthog Throttle Quadrant, Saitek Pro rudder pedals.
Flamin_Squirrel Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 I'm no expert in this field, so I still wonder about battery usage in the M2000. In the video he turns on the battery while the engine is already spooling up. In all the other aircraft I fly in DCS ranging from WW2 to today you switch on the battery first and then comes the engine. So I'm curious how the battery works in the M2000? Almost all aircraft from a C172 to a 777 or F-15 will have a 'hot battery bus', a series of connections to the battery that can't be turned off (at least from the cockpit). In a C172 this will just be to power the clock. A jet engine will definitely require electrical power to energise the igniters; whether this is powered by a hot battery bus or some other source, I'm not sure.
=4c=Nikola Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) What type of starter M-2000C engine has? Edited September 25, 2015 by =4c=Nikola Do not expect fairness. The times of chivalry and fair competition are long gone.
WildBillKelsoe Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 it has to be a pneumatic starter. AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
jojo Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 Indeed it's a turbo-starter. An electric motor launch the turbo-starter. The free turbine drive the engine speed to ignition speed. The whole system is cut off and disengaged automatically when engine RPM is enough. The whole sequence is automatic when you push the red button. Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi
Timghetta Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 or in US terms a Jet Fuel Starter (JFS) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] We take the Metal and bring it to Mesh
Zeus67 Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 PCN (INS) screen test: 1 "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea."
didilman Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 Glad to see cockpit in french. Kep the work up waiting for december!!
Zakatak Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 I love "transitional" planes like these that exist between the eras of analog and digital flight.
BlackLion213 Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 PCN (INS) screen test: Looks like great, steady progress. Thank you for all the updates. -Nick
QuiGon Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 Indeed, I'm really thankful for all the small dev updates, even if it's just one sentence with a screenshot :thumbup: Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
WildBillKelsoe Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 fortunately my second language during prep school was French!!! Guess I have to read Bienvenue allover again :D AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
Aginor Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 Thanks for another update, even if it is a single picture. Starting to get more and more excited for the M2000. :) DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet
Azazel Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 This is module is looking especially nice and well developed! The cockpit is beautiful and great job on the trailer. Really looking forward to this one. My Rig: EVGA GTX 1070 x 2 | EVGA x58 SLI classified | i7 X 990 CPU | 24 GB RAM | Windows 10 Home 64 bit| Track IR Pro | CH Fighter Stick | CH Throttle | CH Pro Pedals | [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Itkovian Posted September 27, 2015 Posted September 27, 2015 Quick everyone, to your Bescherelles! Must conjugate those radio commands properly! :)
Zeus67 Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 Initial test for the INS system. The alignment procedure will be implemented later: "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea."
Blaze Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 Great progress, thanks for the updates! :) i7 7700K | 32GB RAM | GTX 1080Ti | Rift CV1 | TM Warthog | Win 10 "There will always be people with a false sense of entitlement. You can want it, you can ask for it, but you don't automatically deserve it. "
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