steakbbq Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Trying to fly through the f15c campaign and the fps drops down to 5 steadily from 40. No fps problems in multiplayer. All settings low. Seems like a memory leak or something. I have a phenom x4 955 4gb of ram and a radeon saphire 5770 It feels like a memory leak but the memory for the game is only 1.3mb However the CPU usage is 37% when the fps is low. Not sure if there is something like a cpu leak but i'm pretty bummed out that I cant play the campaign. Prior patches the campaign worked fine on this computer and even on my older computer. Seems like there is an issue with the game itself. Let the flaming begin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steakbbq Posted February 13, 2014 Author Share Posted February 13, 2014 Just flew the first couple missions in a-10c and the fps was fine for the entirety of the missions. Must be a problem with the FC3 module. A real pitty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtaliaA1 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Just flew the first couple missions in a-10c and the fps was fine for the entirety of the missions. Must be a problem with the FC3 module. A real pitty. It is a problem with your system specs and the Sim requirements you need more ram. 6Gigs is the minimum. This was a Boutique Builder iBuypower rig. Until I got the tinker bug again i7 920 @3.6Mhz 12Gig Corsair XMS3 ram 1600 Nvidia 760 SLi w/4Gig DDR5 Ram Intel 310 SSD HDD 160 Gb + Western Digital 4Terabyte HDD Creative SB X-Fi HD Audio Logitech X-530 5.1 Surround Speaker System Dual Acer 32"Monitors. PSU 1200 w Thermaltake Win10 64Bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steakbbq Posted February 14, 2014 Author Share Posted February 14, 2014 (edited) Negative. Its not even coming close to maxing out my current ram. Not to mention other modules run JUST fine in campaign. This game is horribly optimized that's all there is to it. Honestly if its anything its a cpu bottleneck wich is doubtful considering a10c runs the campaign smooth as butter with more units on the map and a much more complicated plane itself. IMHO its a bug with the FC3 module itself. FC3 is a third party module? I was reading that there is or was a bug on multiplayer where AI aircraft caused a memory leak when a client was connected to the server. Looking through some files I saw a multiplayer log for a server with my name, I assume that when you play campaign it creates a local server and you connect as a client. I even tested it by editing the campaign mission and spawning me where all the units are fighting. Starts 40 fps and over 10 minutes degrades and does not recover at 5 fps. Just loaded up the a-10c campaign and my processor was pegged at around 37%, I think its maxing one of my cores, although it still runs smooth the whole flight. The other thign is if I hit ctrl pausex2 I can see while im in the cockpit the objects jumping between 90-400, like the number of objects are changing frame to frame when I am just sitting there. When I go to the external view it stays at about 200 something. To me that says there is something either wrong with the code that displays the amount of objects or there is something weird going on with the main game code where there is more then one scene and its jumping between the two. That would obviously cause major slowdowns. I know there is lots of stuff going on behind the scenes. With how old this engine is I am sure its not component based. They have probably done it OOP and you end up with a lot of bloat in your main thread, or the top level hierarchy... This causes bloat and a poorly performing engine. Once again I am only theorizing here but, I believe if they were to refactor (A dirty word I know) the engine and modules to take a component based approach, this game would see performance boosts of 200% or more. There is no reason that this game should be performing so poorly. Also multi-core utilization would go a long way to alleviate the stresses of their bloated code. Just because a more powerful rig can run it somewhat decently doesn't mean its right. The simple fact is we were all duped into paying money for a completely UN-optimized, bloated game. Edited February 14, 2014 by steakbbq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delta9856 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Just wanted to jump in here and say that I'm experiencing exactly the same issue. I just flew the first f15c mission and my fps was unplayable by the end of the mission. My CPU wasn't even close to being maxed out (~15% utilization max). Definitely feels like a memory leak of some kind. Oli 'Scarecrow' Lusk Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Intel Core i7 3930K @ 4.20Ghz ASUS Rampage IV Extreme Motherboard 16GB DDR3 RAM EVGA Geforce GTX 680 4GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper482 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Just flew the first couple missions in a-10c and the fps was fine for the entirety of the missions. Must be a problem with the FC3 module. A real pitty. The more you run the worse it gets, became unplayable for me about 10 missions in, then I found this..... http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1980753&postcount=66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted February 14, 2014 ED Team Share Posted February 14, 2014 Trying to fly through the f15c campaign and the fps drops down to 5 steadily from 40. No fps problems in multiplayer. All settings low. Seems like a memory leak or something. I have a phenom x4 955 4gb of ram and a radeon saphire 5770 It feels like a memory leak but the memory for the game is only 1.3mb However the CPU usage is 37% when the fps is low. Not sure if there is something like a cpu leak but i'm pretty bummed out that I cant play the campaign. Prior patches the campaign worked fine on this computer and even on my older computer. Seems like there is an issue with the game itself. Let the flaming begin! First, you specs are below the minimums, that is an issue, but I am seeing similar drop in FPS as I play the first mission as well. I am gonna try and have another Tester confirm as well, and I can report it if need be. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steakbbq Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 (edited) Yea, I am not a fps nut, I'm happy with 30, even though 60 would be so much nicer. There is actually a problem with the campaign though so just trying to get some discussion going on it. Trying http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1980753&postcount=66 will update when I determine if it helped. UPDATE: Nope didnt help at all. Still go down to 5fps. UPDATE: Just finished the second campaign mission, only went down to 10fps. Edited February 15, 2014 by steakbbq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted February 16, 2014 ED Team Share Posted February 16, 2014 I have reported it as I got similar results in our Test version as well. Mine went from around 40 fps to 8 by the end of the mission. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steakbbq Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 cool so we ju st have to wait for them to fix it then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted February 17, 2014 ED Team Share Posted February 17, 2014 cool so we ju st have to wait for them to fix it then? We will wait to see what they think it might be, yes. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiJack Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Antivirus problem? Make sure to exept saved games folder and dcs program folder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steakbbq Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 I don't use any antivirus. It's only a problem with the FC3 f15c Campaign. Maybe other FC3 campaigns but I haven't checked. No problems with p51 mustang, dcs huey, a10c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Rider Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I've noticed when ALT-TAB the second core which DCS uses, runs the CPU core its on up to 100% (from its usual 50%) City Hall is easier to fight, than a boys' club - an observation :P "Resort is had to ridicule only when reason is against us." - Jefferson "Give a group of potheads a bunch of weed and nothing to smoke out of, and they'll quickly turn into engineers... its simply amazing." EVGA X99 FTW, EVGA GTX980Ti FTW, i7 5930K, 16Gb Corsair Dominator 2666Hz, Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit, Intel 520 SSD x 2, Samsung PX2370 monitor and all the other toys - "I am a leaf on the wind, watch how I soar" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiwaz Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Im having the same FPS drops in the F15C campaigns in FC3... Asus z170 motherboard; Intel i5-6600K OCd to 4,5GHz; Corsair 32GB DDR4 3000MHz; ASUS Cerberus 1070 Ti; Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD; Schiit Valhalla 2 headphone amp w/ Bifrost multibit DAC and Sennheiser 650 headphones; HP Reverb; Saitek x65-F; TrackIR5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustang Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 We will wait to see what they think it might be, yes. Hey Sith, i'm wondering if this bug report is related in some way (see mantis #0025450) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted February 19, 2014 ED Team Share Posted February 19, 2014 I dont know, memory really doesnt change as the issue is happening... so I dont think its a memory leak. I need to check again in our next build. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wichid Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I played the first F-15C mission and can report a massive drop in FPS during the first mission, fine about half way through and then by the time I'm starting the descent it's terrible. I noticed that the FPS shot up to normal when I pressed F2 to be out of the cockpit. Back in the cockpit about 12FPS, then 60FPS when I press F2. Anyone else have this? Lyndiman AMD Ryzen 3600 / RTX 2070 Super / 32G Ram / Win10 / TrackIR 5 Pro / Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobek Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Posts deleted. Please keep your posts constructive. This forum is not a place to post abusive comments. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steakbbq Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 if you hit right control pause twice you can see that the main cpu thread is taking 75-100 ms per frame, there is obviously some code within that thread that is bogging down the cpu. This could possibly be indicative of a overall performance issue. With object oriented programming you get massive bloat at the top level hierarchy, this is probably just a case of terrible optimization rearing its ugly head. This game should not run as terribly as it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted February 24, 2014 ED Team Share Posted February 24, 2014 It's been reported guys, we will see what happens. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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