What are you doing while we wait for the Fw 190?

[Krupi]

Personally I am doing a spot of light reading...

 

 

:music_whistling:

 

Okay so I might have a bit of a thing for the Dora.... PLEASE LET ME FLY IT :crazy:

[Orava]

I'm sitting in a dark room, crying and waiting for my T-$hirt

[104th_Crunch]

Waiting for the FA-18 :) Krupi, you are hardcore!

[Mike Busutil]

Thinking of the many, many FW-90 kills I will get with my P-51 :D

[WildBillKelsoe]

I'm trying to develop motor skills for the Mustang after 2 years of purchase still..

[SAM77]

Dreaming of a virtual sky filled with B17s, P 51s and Doras

[9.JG27 DavidRed]

flying on the DOW server...

reading currently top guns of the luftwaffe JG26...

real life flying...

[Trooper117]

Not reading 190 books that's for sure... I already know how to shoot them down :)

[Der_Fred]

Busy learning all the 'short-commings' of the P51, so when my 'baby' arrives.. there's going to be a lot of P51 bits all over the place... :)

 

A message to Wags and crew.. My next purchase is the FW190, before anything else.... I'm (we're) waiting.. :)

[Der_Fred]

Krupi.. where do you get those books from ?

 

Some IL2 stuff to make you panic with fear :-)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/uobr63not6mn9km/Typhoon-v-FW190.avi

https://www.dropbox.com/s/iltefdi67sefl4q/BigFWA.avi

[Mike Busutil]

so when my 'baby' arrives.. there's going to be a lot of P51 bits all over the place... :)

 

 

Not if I catch you in my airspace. :D

 

There will be plenty of Fw190 parts laying around...

[Der_Fred]

You never know.. it doesn't seem like Oleg has anything to do with the Dora, then I expect an even fight, but with the short nose FW190, that Oleg promised (IOW better FM) then you're toast.., even if you're in a P51 :-)

[Krupi]

Krupi.. where do you get those books from ?

 

Some IL2 stuff to make you panic with fear :-)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/uobr63not6mn9km/Typhoon-v-FW190.avi

https://www.dropbox.com/s/iltefdi67sefl4q/BigFWA.avi

 

They were all brought through amazon :)

 

Nice videos :)

Edited March 6, 2014 by Krupi

[Merlin-27]

...taking in the beautiful scenery.

 

[Krupi]

...taking in the beautiful scenery.

 

 

There is only one way to fly....

 

[Krupi]

Once I have finished my 190 cockpit I might be forced to make my next favourite bird...

 

 

I have a spade, grip but it is setup for a spitfire atm...

 

[Der_Fred]

Nice Typhoon pic... the only problem is that the tank commanders look like they on holiday, instead of doing the same as the on on the lower left.

[WildBillKelsoe]

Well I got the bible but want to acquire these two:

 

Air Combat Manoeuvres: The Technique and History of Air Fighting for Flight Simulation: J. Steve Thompson: 9781903223987: Amazon.com: Books

 

In Pursuit: A Pilot's Guide to Online Air Combat: Johan Kylander: 9789197607704: Amazon.com: Books

 

I'm new to online A2A combat so will take it baby steps with these two, then when confident, take it up to multiplayer for application. Of course I can work the two at the same time but it would be one book in one hand and the stick at the other... and a lot of slurry speech...

[PFunk1606688187]

Well I got the bible but want to acquire these two:

 

Air Combat Manoeuvres: The Technique and History of Air Fighting for Flight Simulation: J. Steve Thompson: 9781903223987: Amazon.com: Books

 

In Pursuit: A Pilot's Guide to Online Air Combat: Johan Kylander: 9789197607704: Amazon.com: Books

 

I have both of those. I was deeply disappointed with Air Combat Manoeuvres: The Technique and History of Air Fighting for Flight Simulation. I didn't feel like there was anything in there I couldn't learn from reading threads on the IL-2 Ubi forums, the "bible", and several other free sources.

 

It has lots of big pretty pictures in it, far more than it has meaningful text. Its a shallow overview of some largely general concepts. Its not the least bit in depth. I think it would better benefit a console player than someone who has already logged countless hours in any DCS level simulation. Waste of money in my opinion.

 

As for In Pursuit: A Pilot's Guide to Online Air Combat, well its been several years but I got it free, and not the illegal way. http://www.virtualpilots.fi/feature/lento_ohjeet/inpursuit/inpursuit.pdf

 

I consider it a much more engaging source specifically focused on the online kind of flying. It is not as dry as the bible and as such its easier to start with, but still has enough depth to make it so that you're getting more for your time spent reading it than the first, utterly useless, book you linked.

 

Its also free, so its full of much more win.

 

[2cents]For what its worth, in my experience just reading volumes of information doesn't teach you much. Its very difficult for many of us to visualize things and get an understanding of the speed that these occur at when reading, even when you can see the diagrams. It would probably be better practice to read and fly at the same time, comparing what you do on a regular basis to what you're slowly coming to understand. Back in the Il2 days I would record tracks of my online flying and review the good ones and try to relate what I saw to what I'd learned.

 

My best experience with learning how to fight in multiplayer was to be obnoxiously conservative, flying like one of those poker players who never bets or sees a flop until he has a top 10 hand, or the nuts. Then commit to a single pass, then extend and run away. Too early on I found that committing to a full engagement with only rudimentary skills would overwhelm me and I learned nothing from my encounters other than how annoying it is to die and have to respawn.

 

[/2cents]

Edited March 7, 2014 by P*Funk

[WildBillKelsoe]

P*Funk, I couldn't agree more. I flew today on DoW server with a buddy and he taught me that to make turns, you have to be relaxed and use the flaps to turn tighter. That is from a single encounter. I imagine lots of information in the minds of avid sim fans like us, which is far more important than reading books as you said. I read the bible before and focuses only on modern fighter tactics, with a very brief introduction to harmonization and old days concepts.

 

 

With that said, I've read briefly the contents of book 2 (in pursuit) and find that I need to read more on this stuff. I'm doing this because I believe that a skilled hand and good setup can really make this bird an ace in its upcoming environment (WWII). It was so gratifying to help my buddy today (we were on text not voice) that I scored 2 kills just by following his advice.

 

Both kills without gyro (read this) and I find eyesight aiming alot easier at this point but sure gyro has its applications which I don't deny. But for a beginner (albeit had it since release), I'm still learning every day something new.

 

100% on target P*Funk and thanks for the link. Also, I agree based on your feedback and amazon's, the first book is shallow.

 

I have both of those. I was deeply disappointed with Air Combat Manoeuvres: The Technique and History of Air Fighting for Flight Simulation. I didn't feel like there was anything in there I couldn't learn from reading threads on the IL-2 Ubi forums, the "bible", and several other free sources.

 

It has lots of big pretty pictures in it, far more than it has meaningful text. Its a shallow overview of some largely general concepts. Its not the least bit in depth. I think it would better benefit a console player than someone who has already logged countless hours in any DCS level simulation. Waste of money in my opinion.

 

As for In Pursuit: A Pilot's Guide to Online Air Combat, well its been several years but I got it free, and not the illegal way. http://www.virtualpilots.fi/feature/lento_ohjeet/inpursuit/inpursuit.pdf

 

I consider it a much more engaging source specifically focused on the online kind of flying. It is not as dry as the bible and as such its easier to start with, but still has enough depth to make it so that you're getting more for your time spent reading it than the first, utterly useless, book you linked.

 

Its also free, so its full of much more win.

 

[2cents]For what its worth, in my experience just reading volumes of information doesn't teach you much. Its very difficult for many of us to visualize things and get an understanding of the speed that these occur at when reading, even when you can see the diagrams. It would probably be better practice to read and fly at the same time, comparing what you do on a regular basis to what you're slowly coming to understand. Back in the Il2 days I would record tracks of my online flying and review the good ones and try to relate what I saw to what I'd learned.

 

My best experience with learning how to fight in multiplayer was to be obnoxiously conservative, flying like one of those poker players who never bets or sees a flop until he has a top 10 hand, or the nuts. Then commit to a single pass, then extend and run away. Too early on I found that committing to a full engagement with only rudimentary skills would overwhelm me and I learned nothing from my encounters other than how annoying it is to die and have to respawn.

 

[/2cents]

Edited March 7, 2014 by WildBillKelsoe

[Der_Fred]

Both kills without gyro (read this) and I find eyesight aiming a lot easier

I tried the gyro, but quickly switched it off..

I found that I was busy thinking about the sight technicalities, instead of working out the relative distances and angles of the aircraft in front - this took away the prediction factor which i find important when getting a deflection on the aircraft.

:-)

[Yob]

I tried the gyro, but quickly switched it off..

I found that I was busy thinking about the sight technicalities, instead of working out the relative distances and angles of the aircraft in front - this took away the prediction factor which i find important when getting a deflection on the aircraft.

:-)

 

I use Gyro but like a fixed sight not ajusting the range, and just using like fixed.. Helps improve accurisey.